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Siemens FS140 Whole House Surge Protection

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Amazon has Siemens FS140 Whole House Surge Protection for $195.90. Shipping is free.

Thanks to community member slypete for finding this deal.

Note: Temporarily out of stock but can still order

Features:
  • FirstSurge Surge Protective Devices (SPDs) are Type 2 and UL / cUL 1449 listed, meeting designated protection requirements
  • FirstSurge is constructed using our commercial grade NEMA 4X enclosure allowing for indoor or outdoor installations
  • FirstSurge Pro provides 140,000 Amp of surge current capacity per phase
  • Compatible with any brand of load center and breakers
  • Enclosure rated for type 4 outdoor, and can also be installed inside the load center
  • 10 year product and connected equipment warranty

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Amazon has Siemens FS140 Whole House Surge Protection for $195.90. Shipping is free.

Thanks to community member slypete for finding this deal.

Note: Temporarily out of stock but can still order

Features:
  • FirstSurge Surge Protective Devices (SPDs) are Type 2 and UL / cUL 1449 listed, meeting designated protection requirements
  • FirstSurge is constructed using our commercial grade NEMA 4X enclosure allowing for indoor or outdoor installations
  • FirstSurge Pro provides 140,000 Amp of surge current capacity per phase
  • Compatible with any brand of load center and breakers
  • Enclosure rated for type 4 outdoor, and can also be installed inside the load center
  • 10 year product and connected equipment warranty

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luddite_cyborg
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I've been watching this in my cart for a while, hits this price about once a week as stock goes in and out, so no rush unless you're ready to install.
Selman
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I just google searched and sites seem to say about 5 years on average. I was initially attracted to the idea, but I'm thinking it's probably foolish unless you have some critical items.

Consider that this is $200 on deal and installation would be about $250. So, you spend the equivalent of $450 every 5-10 years switching it out.

I've had a home about 15 years. I've never lost anything to power surges. I have guitar amps on cheap power strip surge protectors. My living room entertainment and computer is on a 370KA surge distribution center I got from for about $100 (that came with a $500,000 connected equipment policy). There's nothing else in my house that couldn't be easily replaced. So what if a fridge gets zapped out after 30 years of home ownership? $750 for a very nice one from someone moving, or $1500 for a modern featured new one, and it's done. In that time you'd have spent $1350 to $2700 on whole home surge protectors. It's probably even cheaper to get surge protection coverage on a homeowner's insurance policy, but surge damage is so rare that probably is a waste of money too.

If I'm thinking of this wrong, feel free to let me know, but it doesn't seem to make sense if you can just protect your data with a point source device.
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I've installed this very same model. It's a great unit. It should be installed in the first breaker position with the wires/leads as short as possible. The longer they are the less protection rating.

Don't forget you need room in the panel for a 20 amp double pole breaker.

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Feb 03, 2023 09:34 PM
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PedroRFeb 03, 2023 09:34 PM
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Quote from slypete :
Siemens FS140

Cousin Pete

Good for you for understanding the you firstly need to protect the service entrance

Why are you so excited about this one in particular?

The biggest challenge with externalized devices is their lead length and getting to where they need to land in the panel (using only gentle sweeps)

In one spot I had to use an Intermatic Ig2280-Om Surge Protector (long leads) on a meter / combo panel
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Quote from PedroR :
Cousin Pete

Good for you for understanding the you firstly need to protect the service entrance

Why are you so excited about this one in particular?

The biggest challenge with externalized devices is their lead length and getting to where they need to land in the panel (using only gentle sweeps)

In one spot I had to use an Intermatic Ig2280-Om Surge Protector (long leads) on a meter / combo panel
I lost a fridge during the last thunderstorm. This is for the pro model which gives 140KA protection, most don't come close to this rating.
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Quote from PedroR :
Cousin Pete

Good for you for understanding the you firstly need to protect the service entrance

Why are you so excited about this one in particular?

The biggest challenge with externalized devices is their lead length and getting to where they need to land in the panel (using only gentle sweeps)

In one spot I had to use an Intermatic Ig2280-Om Surge Protector (long leads) on a meter / combo panel
Not sure I follow what you're saying, the leads are too long? It shouldn't be #1 spot on your panel?
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I've been watching this in my cart for a while, hits this price about once a week as stock goes in and out, so no rush unless you're ready to install.
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dealfindingisfunFeb 03, 2023 11:11 PM
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What does it typically cost to get these installed?
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Spook52Feb 03, 2023 11:17 PM
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Excellent price. If I had the extra $, I'd buy one now. Need to swap these out periodically. They don't last forever.
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Quote from dealfindingisfun :
What does it typically cost to get these installed?
For a certified electrician. Anywhere from $200-350 were quotes a got back then from a couple of them. This was to install the surge device at the main panel outside where you want to avoid "handy man"'s screwing around with.

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ancientmanFeb 03, 2023 11:47 PM
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I have many horrible experiences with small surge protectors even ups batteries. Is this actually work? How long does it last?
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I've installed this very same model. It's a great unit. It should be installed in the first breaker position with the wires/leads as short as possible. The longer they are the less protection rating.

Don't forget you need room in the panel for a 20 amp double pole breaker.
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needtofinddealFeb 04, 2023 12:06 AM
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Are these fairly easy to install yourself?
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Quote from ancientman :
I have many horrible experiences with small surge protectors even ups batteries. Is this actually work? How long does it last?
I just google searched and sites seem to say about 5 years on average. I was initially attracted to the idea, but I'm thinking it's probably foolish unless you have some critical items.

Consider that this is $200 on deal and installation would be about $250. So, you spend the equivalent of $450 every 5-10 years switching it out.

I've had a home about 15 years. I've never lost anything to power surges. I have guitar amps on cheap power strip surge protectors. My living room entertainment and computer is on a 370KA surge distribution center I got from for about $100 (that came with a $500,000 connected equipment policy). There's nothing else in my house that couldn't be easily replaced. So what if a fridge gets zapped out after 30 years of home ownership? $750 for a very nice one from someone moving, or $1500 for a modern featured new one, and it's done. In that time you'd have spent $1350 to $2700 on whole home surge protectors. It's probably even cheaper to get surge protection coverage on a homeowner's insurance policy, but surge damage is so rare that probably is a waste of money too.

If I'm thinking of this wrong, feel free to let me know, but it doesn't seem to make sense if you can just protect your data with a point source device.
Last edited by Selman February 3, 2023 at 06:12 PM.
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ingenue007Feb 04, 2023 12:18 AM
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I paid 349 or so for this. It's great and has protected my house. Better than a bunch of surge protector strips. I got this b/c I had numerous security cameras burned out b/c of surge.
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smeesmayFeb 04, 2023 12:45 AM
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Advising everyone protect their house from a Seimensurge!
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harleybogeyFeb 04, 2023 12:49 AM
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Quote from needtofinddeal :
Are these fairly easy to install yourself?
Easy to install but if you have no experience installing breakers than maybe not… if you have installed breakers in a panel then yes it's easy.

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Quote from Enix82 :
I've installed this very same model. It's a great unit. It should be installed in the first breaker position with the wires/leads as short as possible. The longer they are the less protection rating.

Don't forget you need room in the panel for a 20 amp double pole breaker.
It can't be connected to an existing breaker??

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