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HP Envy x360 2-in-1 Laptop: Ryzen 7 4700U, 15.6" 1080p IPS Touchscreen, 8GB DDR4, 512GB SSD, Vega 7, Win 10 $ $719.99 + Free Shipping @ Best Buy

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HP Envy x360 2-in-1 Laptop: AMD Ryzen 7 4700U 8-Core, 15.6" 1080p IPS Touchscreen, 8GB DDR4, 512GB SSD, Vega 7, Type-C, Backlit Keyboard, 3-Cell, Win 10 (Nightfall Black) $719.99
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HP Envy x360 2-in-1 Laptop: Ryzen 7 4700U, 15.6" 1080p IPS Touchscreen, 8GB DDR4, 512GB SSD, Vega 7, Win 10 $ $719.99 + Free Shipping @ Best Buy
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ktoutire
06-17-2020 at 01:32 AM.
06-17-2020 at 01:32 AM.
Nice specs except dram and screen brightness. Good deal for the price!
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IndigoWinter5520
06-17-2020 at 02:07 AM.
06-17-2020 at 02:07 AM.
Quote from ktoutire :
Nice specs except dram and screen brightness. Good deal for the price!
Ram is upgradable but screen is not good also users are reporting heating issues. I was seriously considering this model but decided to wait for IdeaPad slim 7 AMD.
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ktoutire
06-17-2020 at 06:11 AM.
06-17-2020 at 06:11 AM.
Quote from IndigoWinter5520 :
Ram is upgradable but screen is not good also users are reporting heating issues. I was seriously considering this model but decided to wait for IdeaPad slim 7 AMD.

That's not a 2-in-1 though
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ranran
06-17-2020 at 07:12 AM.
06-17-2020 at 07:12 AM.
All the Ryzen laptops now suffer from heat/thermal issues because none of the OEM's are actually taking the time to design a good laptop *around* the Ryzen architecture........

If anyone finds a good Ryzen laptop with good thermal regulation...let me know, but for now...I'm still probably going to get an Intel laptop with Nvidia GPU...... sad, I wanted a Ryzen laptop..but they're just not up to snuff yet....
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Wildpir8
06-17-2020 at 07:18 AM.
06-17-2020 at 07:18 AM.
Quote from ranran :
All the Ryzen laptops now suffer from heat/thermal issues because none of the OEM's are actually taking the time to design a good laptop *around* the Ryzen architecture........

If anyone finds a good Ryzen laptop with good thermal regulation...let me know, but for now...I'm still probably going to get an Intel laptop with Nvidia GPU...... sad, I wanted a Ryzen laptop..but they're just not up to snuff yet....
Think I've seen reviewers note that the Flex 5 has dual heat pipes where it's typically custom to only place one. I'd probably go with that model before the others.
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RyzenPrime
06-17-2020 at 07:35 AM.
06-17-2020 at 07:35 AM.
Quote from IndigoWinter5520 :
Ram is upgradable but screen is not good also users are reporting heating issues. I was seriously considering this model but decided to wait for IdeaPad slim 7 AMD.
this one?
https://www.lenovo.com/us/en/lapt...8IPS701400

sold out for now?
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UniqueHamster598
06-17-2020 at 07:36 AM.
06-17-2020 at 07:36 AM.
Good enough deal, but gotta wonder whether this is really worth it over the $599 Costco one with 4500u. Seems exactly the same, save the slightly better processor. Is a ~10% better APU worth this much more? I suppose it might be for some people.
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NeatBird2163
06-17-2020 at 08:36 AM.
06-17-2020 at 08:36 AM.
Just bought this open box in "satisfactory" condition which based on what I've read is most peoples "like new" for $610. Perfect price for great internals with upgradable ram.
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NeatBird2163
06-17-2020 at 08:40 AM.
06-17-2020 at 08:40 AM.
Quote from UniqueHamster598 :
Good enough deal, but gotta wonder whether this is really worth it over the $599 Costco one with 4500u. Seems exactly the same, save the slightly better processor. Is a ~10% better APU worth this much more? I suppose it might be for some people.

I'd say 2 extra cores is more than slightly better
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octo999
06-17-2020 at 09:54 AM.
06-17-2020 at 09:54 AM.
PassMark lists the 4500U at 11120 and the 4700U at 13541. I don't know whether those numbers are proportional to actual performance, but the difference is either 22% or 18% (depending on which you use as your reference point).

Heat issues: Given that these are supposedly 15W processors, and laptop cooling technology has been around a long time, it's funny if they couldn't get that right.
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JohnS830
06-17-2020 at 01:05 PM.
06-17-2020 at 01:05 PM.
Quote from octo999 :
PassMark lists the 4500U at 11120 and the 4700U at 13541. I don't know whether those numbers are proportional to actual performance, but the difference is either 22% or 18% (depending on which you use as your reference point).
That passmark score helps when using all those cores like video editing, people looking at laptops with cheap displays typically aren't looking for that. For next few years the difference with the 4C 4300u and 8c 4700u will be barely noticeable.
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GetMeSlick
06-17-2020 at 01:39 PM.
06-17-2020 at 01:39 PM.
What is the near equivalent model from Dell?
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Allstar2k9
06-17-2020 at 01:59 PM.
06-17-2020 at 01:59 PM.
Just remember: Costco's warranty is unbeatable.. not so much for Best Buy.
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HonestSuit4865
06-17-2020 at 02:05 PM.
06-17-2020 at 02:05 PM.
I reduced SSD to 256GB and it downgraded to AMD Ryzen 5 for a cost of 549.99. Still a good deal?
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