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Ships in 5 weeks. This is double in volume compared to the m90n deal going on for $400, but has better expansion capability.

These are not "ready to build" so only three preset configurations available, with the highest configuration at $512.10.

For those with work benefits (LifeMart, Perks, etc), this may come even cheaper as I see it for $453.60 instead of $512.10 through LifeMart.

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This seems like a better deal because i5-8250u vs Ryzen 5 3400?
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This seems like a better deal because i5-8265u vs Ryzen 5 3400?
https://askgeek.io/en/cpus/vs/AMD...e-i5-8265U - this AMD is not as energy efficient as the Intel i5-8265U, as that's specifically built for low power consumption. Compared to m90n, this is twice in size / volume and the processor is a mid-range desktop type rather than a laptop / nano PC version.

Personally, more than just the processor, other expansion options (RAM specifically) is the reason to favor this over m90n, with two negatives:
  • $110 more than m90 (for me $53 more + taxes due to LifeMart discount)
  • 5 weeks or more to ship
I still ordered it, as I had some rewards to spend. But, will have to see how delayed it is going to be.
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http://www.cpu-world.com/Compare/...8265U.html - this AMD is not as energy efficient as the Intel i5-8265U, as that's specifically built for low power consumption. Compared to m90n, this is twice in size / volume and the processor is a mid-range desktop type rather than a laptop / nano PC version.

Personally, more than just the processor, other expansion options (RAM specifically) is the reason to favor this over m90n, with two negatives:
  • $110 more than m90 (for me $53 more + taxes due to LifeMart discount)
  • 5 weeks or more to ship
I still ordered it, as I had some rewards to spend. But, will have to see how delayed it is going to be.
Agreed. However, this is a desktop, so I am not sure why energy efficiency matters. The size difference is true, but its so small already.
I already ordered an M90n, but this is making me rethink my decision.
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Agreed. However, this is a desktop, so I am not sure why energy efficiency matters. The size difference is true, but its so small already.
I already ordered an M90n, but this is making me rethink my decision.
True. For a consumer user, reduced power consumption may be irrelevant or cost savings due to energy efficiency may be negligible.

I ordered the m90n for work, but personally was looking at one of these tiny versions and now bought it. The earlier thread mentioned that the AMD chip itself could be swapped out. So, for folks who like to tinker, having some upgrade / expansion capability will help. For those who need a simple out of the box solution may go for the m90n for the reduced cost, and not worry about updating in the future.
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5 weeks or more to ship is a deal breaker. I would buy it right away if it ships within 7 days
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True. For a consumer user, reduced power consumption may be irrelevant or cost savings due to energy efficiency may be negligible. This would mean much for an enterprise setting where they are deploying in volume, and 15W vs 65W power consumption would make much difference to spending.

I ordered the m90n for work, but personally was looking at one of these tiny versions and now bought it. The earlier thread mentioned that the AMD chip itself could be swapped out. So, for folks who like to tinker, having some upgrade / expansion capability will help. For those who need a simple out of the box solution may go for the m90n for the reduced cost, and not worry about updating in the future.

At idle, both will consume very little power. At 15W loads, they will be similar in performance (and they average out to performing the same for single-thread work). The AMD chip at 65W can complete heavily-threaded workloads around 50% faster though, allowing it to return back to an idle state while the Intel CPU is still processing. The AMD chip idling at 1W while the Intel chip continues to burn away at 15-25W (plus other system loads) for awhile longer will bridge the gap. The Ryzen is TDP-configurable down to 45W, so this may also run it at the lower number, hurting max frequency by a couple hundred MHz, but also cutting heat by up to 1/3.

Power consumption over time is difficult to compare for completely different products with unknown workloads. The Vega 11 is an excellent on-chip gpu though, and would make me pick the AMD over the u-series i5.
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I have this.

Really love the small foot print and performance.
Built in APU's only good enough for light gaming though.

But last time it was posted it had 4x the RAM, and was $60 less.
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At idle, both will consume very little power. At 15W loads, they will be similar in performance (and they average out to performing the same for single-thread work). The AMD chip at 65W can complete heavily-threaded workloads around 50% faster though, allowing it to return back to an idle state while the Intel CPU is still processing. The AMD chip idling at 1W while the Intel chip continues to burn away at 15-25W (plus other system loads) for awhile longer will bridge the gap. The Ryzen is TDP-configurable down to 45W, so this may also run it at the lower number, hurting max frequency by a couple hundred MHz, but also cutting heat by up to 1/3.

Power consumption over time is difficult to compare for completely different products with unknown workloads. The Vega 11 is an excellent on-chip gpu though, and would make me pick the AMD over the u-series i5.
FWIW, this is the 35W Ryzen 5 PRO 3400GE, not the 65W Ryzen 5 3400G (yes, confusing, I know).
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Can this play solitaire ?
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Can this play solitaire ?
No, it's a computer and has no hands.
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Is it possible to connect 3 monitors to this ?
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Agreed. However, this is a desktop, so I am not sure why energy efficiency matters. The size difference is true, but its so small already.
I already ordered an M90n, but this is making me rethink my decision.
Bc some people care about environment and like to use less electricity. Also the other one can be 3m taped to back of a monitor (or mounted if want to buy mount).
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Yes but not minesweeper
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