YMMV Denon AVR-X3700H $900 in store only

Set off my alert for what?

Quote from R3DTR1X : Set off my alert for what?

For the calibration

Doesn't seem bad for a pre-order. It I guess it might go lower by the end of the year

May want to hold off and see what Amir says. The 4700 doesn't look great.

https://www.audiosciencereview.com/forum/index.php?threads/denon-avr-x4700h-2020-avr-review.14188/

Quote from MadPup : May want to hold off and see what Amir says. The 4700 doesn't look great. https://www.audiosciencereview.co...iew.14188/

Almost all the things he posts are accurate but useless. The 4700 is crystal clear and practically distortion free until you get to essentially theoretical volume levels. Read the charts and ask yourself how often you're listening above 100db. The
Answer should be almost never because you'll go deaf.

Quote from R3DTR1X : Set off my alert for what?

How dare you disturb the audio troll from his slumber

Quote from lattiboy : Almost all the things he posts are accurate but useless. The 4700 is crystal clear and practically distortion free until you get to essentially theoretical volume levels. Read the charts and ask yourself how often you're listening above 100db. The Answer should be almost never because you'll go deaf.

Imagine a BMW that is advertised has having a top speed of 140 mph. A car reviewer takes a test drive and finds that the thing shakes like a rickshaw at over 90 mph. Your response: "Hey, forget about that - you should never be driving at over 70 mph anyway". It doesn't work like that. That's an argument you might make to make yourself feel better if you've already bought the car and have just read the review.

When we buy stuff we want the best we can get for our money irrespective of whether we'll use every feature to its fullest or not. In the case of the X4700H, do you think that that's the best you can get for the money ($1700)? If the X3700H tested similarly, do you think that it would be the best choice for your money? It's possible the answer in both cases could be yes, but I'd be sure to do my research before committing.

As for Amir's reviews - he often calls out that you get a lot of functionality for your money with modern AVR's and that often necessitates them being jacks of all trades but masters of none. His gripe with these Denon units (and other brands) usually stems from what hee sees as poor engineering practices. With the same components but with better engineering the units could be much better. It appears that either Denon don't do basic tests on their product designs and/or they just don't care because they know that the mainstream (paid) review sites will gush over the new features, perform cursory subjective tests, and hand out 5-star ratings like confetti.

@joelchan1966, any luck after going in today? I'm waiting for the review from Amir as well, but have fingers crossed this won't have the same issues as the AVR-X4700h, and still earmarking any deals

Quote from cowsgomoo62 : @joelchan1966, any luck after going in today? I'm waiting for the review from Amir as well, but have fingers crossed this won't have the same issues as the AVR-X4700h, and still earmarking any deals

I just ordered my x3700h this afternoon, will probably take three weeks.

I just went and got mine for $837. The x3600h was $799.

Waiting and thinking if 3600h would have been a better choice

Quote from reedealer : I just went and got mine for $837. The x3600h was $799. Waiting and thinking if 3600h would have been a better choice

Damn, what a great price for the 3700. Too bad they aren't in TX

Quote from reedealer : I just went and got mine for $837. The x3600h was $799. Waiting and thinking if 3600h would have been a better choice

Wow, was the $799 for the x3600h an advertised price or did you have to negotiate?

Quote from cowsgomoo62 : Wow, was the $799 for the x3600h an advertised price or did you have to negotiate?

That was the first price I was given by the salesman. Didn't have to negotiate. But it possible you might have to if they start higher.