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Details on how to understand the Mortgage basics and information that I understand for your learning can be accessed on this post (Click this hyperlink to go to the post); If you are new to this process and have questions this is a Must Read before asking question on the forum!


Reviving my over a decade old thread from SD and FW as the rates have gotten competitive. This thread is a SD community thread to compare and post best rates received along with their lender experience for a quick compare and estimation from a starting point.


Please note that rates will vary on quite a few factors and just because one person has a rate will not guarantee you will receive the same rate but simply use this as a guide and negotiation tactic.

All below rates are based on assumptions of certain LTV, DTI, & Excellent Credit Scores:

30 Year Fixed best rates (Assuming Good Credit & 20% down, low LTV, low DTI, etc etc):
All listed lenders are here because I shopped them and have encountered competitive pricing and not because I get any sort of a kickback....use this as a gauge for the latest but note that things can change week to week, day to day and even hour to hour:

07/14/2021 2.875% Better.com- Will consider Lender Match to beat Competitors and combine with Amex cashback (Click here for additional Forum thread details). Amex's "Digital Assist" Team @ 800-297-7500

07/14/2021 2.875% LoanDepot.com - Is competitive but works better if you have another offer for them. My LO Luke Dean
[email protected] 949-652-4521

07/14/2021 BSMFunding (David Pressel) - Call to get the latest rates (no published online). Very competitive rates; get everything in writing via email!
https://bsmfunding.mymortgage-onl...essel.html
David Pressel (NMLS: 562175)- Branch Manager - Phone: 908-208-2036
[email protected]
07/14/2021 2.5% LoanCabin [loancabin.com] - Most Competitive but refinance times have grow to almost 6 months for many people so proceed with caution as recent reviews indicate normal 1 month closing. Generally do not charge for big Lender Fees (A+B on LE) as they are under $100 in most cases; esp if appraisal is waived for your scenario.

07/14/2021 3% LenderFi - Competitive but might be slow and not work on beating other lender rates.
30 Year Fixed Jumbo Best Rates (Assuming Good Credit & 20% down):
TBD
15 year Fixed:
07/14/2021 2.0 % Better.com; matches Bankrate rates for themselves.
07/04/2020 2.5% NIH Credit Union with Lender Credit
Title Company Comparisions:
RadianTitleDirect.com - OP has used them for almost a decade with getting best rates (closed after Covid, Lender must submit order as consumer side is closed).
ALTTitle.com
https://www.valerotitle.com/ - Texas only.
Alphabetical list of other lenders (some could be non-proven without direct member experiences posted here):
  1. AimLoan - Will provide LE without hard pull if credit is frozen https://www.aimloan.com/
  2. Amerisave - will give you scores from all 3 bureaus with just a soft pull https://www.amerisave.com/
  3. Better.com https://better.com/
  4. BoxHomeLoans https://www.boxhomeloans.com/
  5. Close Your Own Loan https://www.closeyourownloan.com/...sults.aspx
  6. Colonial Mort http://www.colonialmort.com/
  7. HighTechLending http://www.hightechlending.co/Default.aspx
  8. Interactive Mortgage https://interactivemortgage.com/ Eric from IM is super rude so good luck dealing with this guy!
  9. LenderFi https://www.lenderfi.com [lenderfi.com]if the link wont work try this backend link: https://app.lenderfi.com/app/sign...r/lenderfi
  10. Loan Cabin https://www.loancabin.com/
  11. Loan Depot https://www.loandepot.com/
  12. LoanLock https://www.loanlock.com/
  13. NavyFederal CU https://www.navyfederal.org/
  14. NIH credit union (Delware, District of Columbia, Maryland, North Carolina, Pennsylvania, Virginia, West Virginia) https://www.nihfcu.org/
  15. Northpointe Bank https://www.northpointe.com/
  16. Owning.com (Operates only in CA) https://owning.com/
  17. Pentagon Federal CU https://www.penfed.org/
  18. Provident Funding - will give LE without locking rate https://www.provident.com/
  19. RatePlus (California) https://www.rateplus.com/
  20. Travis Credit Union (12 North Cal Counties only) https://www.traviscu.org/ Eligibility traviscu.org
  21. United wholesale mortgages https://www.uwm.com/
  22. Watermark Home Loans https://www.watermarkhomeloans.com/
  23. West Coast Mortgage Associates (The loan broker is in So.Cal. Debbie Morgan) https://wcmtg.com/


Shahhere

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Quote from MeAPhool :
I think a lot of people get confused with regards to "no closing cost". Specifically I think that is with regards to A+B+C (as referenced in this post by volcomssj48 - https://slickdeals.net/forums/showpost.php?p=138543920&postcount=138)

As per volcomssj48, this is a good place to go for a basic understanding of the LE (Loan Estimate) that should be provided to you by each lender once you give all of your information: https://www.consumerfinance.gov/o...-estimate/

I'm in NJ so I can't really shop Title Insurance much as it's the cost is regulated by the state, however in other states, you can really cut down some of the costs in section "C".
Good site for daily mortgage news. Subscribe to their daily mortgage rate news to learn about their predictions. Also take a look at the rest of their site.
http://www.mortgagenewsdaily.com/...age_rates/



Potential Lenders - Mentioned in Thread
*Please add to this list and add locality if applicable*

  1. Loan Cabin https://www.loancabin.com/
  2. Better.com https://better.com/
  3. Interactive Mortgage https://interactivemortgage.com/
  4. LenderFi https://www.lenderfi.com/
  5. owning.com (Operates only in CA) https://owning.com/
  6. NIH credit union (Delware, District of Columbia, Maryland, North Carolina, Pennsylvania, Virginia, West Virginia) https://www.nihfcu.org/
  7. Loan Depot https://www.loandepot.com/
  8. Travis Credit Union (12 North Cal Counties only) https://www.traviscu.org/ Eligibility [traviscu.org]
  9. Pentagon Federal CU https://www.penfed.org/
  10. Interactive Mortgage https://interactivemortgage.com/
  11. NavyFederal CU https://www.navyfederal.org/
  12. United wholesale mortgages https://www.uwm.com/
  13. BoxHomeLoans https://www.boxhomeloans.com/
  14. LoanLock https://www.loanlock.com/
  15. West Coast Mortgage Associates (The loan broker is in So.Cal. Debbie Morgan) https://wcmtg.com/
  16. RatePlus (California) https://www.rateplus.com/
  17. Northpointe Bank https://www.northpointe.com/
  18. HighTechLending https://hightechlending.mortgagewebcenter.com/
  19. Close Your Own Loan https://www.closeyourownloan.com/...sults.aspx
  20. AimLoan - will give LE without hard pull if credit is frozen https://www.aimloan.com/
  21. Amerisave - will give you scores from all 3 bureaus with just a soft pull
    https://www.amerisave.com/
  22. Provident - will give LE without locking rate https://www.provident.com/ Best Credit Back with 60% LTV or better.
  23. Watermark Home Loans https://www.watermarkhomeloans.com/ Skip these guys. They are being rude to Slickdealers. In one occasion they have explicitly said they don't want to do business with people from Slickdeals. They also have an approach where they give you the best rate initially and just raise it more each time you ask.
  24. Colonial Mort http://www.colonialmort.com/
  25. Annie Mac https://www.annie-mac.com/ Licensed in these states https://www.annie-mac.com/page/licensed-states/
  26. Rate Rabbit https://www.raterabbit.com/ Licensed in MA and others [raterabbit.com]

Discount lenders who DO NOT accept fully documented in tax returns self-employment income:
Owning.com
BoxHomeLoans
Lower.com

Discount Lenders that DO accept fully documented in tax returns self-employment income:
Sebonic
Caliber
Sage

Title Company Shopping
AltTitle.com
mytitlegenius.com (formerly entitle direct)
TO AVOID - Settlement LTD (local Pittsburgh run away from them - high cost, very bad service, lot of delays)


Feel Free to Add Sections for Each Lender - MeAPhool

Loan Cabin - DetailsWARNING. DO NOT GO WITH LOAN CABIN. TRUST ME.
I would have lost the home if i was trying to buy a house.
I just had a normal refi and it took then 127 days to close. out of the 27 emails i sent, they responded to 3. I even had to call (complain) their main office 2 times to get a response to any emails. they screwed the closing paperwork as well.


Loan Cabin does not charge lender fees. Actually all of this is in their FAQ but of course nobody reads anything and wants everything spoon fed.

This means A+B (reference the link above in the wiki regarding Loan Estimate) in the Loan Estimate should be 0 (as long as your appraisal is waived).

You will be responsible for Title Cost (of course you can shop that to your heart's delight)
You will be responsible for Recording Fee in your county
You will be responsible for Escrows (if you so choose OR if you are close to Homeowner's OR Property Tax payment - though you can negotiate and show evidence to get it waived. Most lender's will waive it if you are choosing not to escrow and you can show proof that you paid the upcoming Property Tax or Homeowner's Insurance)

You will be responsible for Prepaid Interest (this isn't a cost. If you didn't refinance, you'd be paying the interest at your current mortgage rate which I assume would be higher).

Lender Credit - If this covers A+B+C+E then you have a no-cost refinance. If you have a surplus aside from A+B+C+E, then technically you made money on your refinance.


If you apply and do no hear back for 3 days, then on the 3rd business day, reach out to [email protected]. They will usually help get a response on your application within a day.



If the information in this WIKI does not cover your questions, then please ask. We will answer and update WIKI accordingly.

Thanks - MeAPhool

Quote from arouncoumar :
For those needing clarity on LC closing costs, I was on the same boat. See what they charge here https://www.dropbox.com/s/r30ecea...t.png?dl=0
Quote from PeterLegend :
Here is a photo of my loan estimate from Loan Cabin, my lender credits should be closer to 3K based on my initial conversations with Bob so i'm following up with him on that.

I do see title insurance in my estimate. I reached out to Owning but I didn't quality for the no cost refinance option since my LTV was 73%, it has to be 50% or lower when I spoke to them.

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08-01-2020 at 01:01 PM.
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Quote from shahhere :
Assuming your Loan to Value (LTV) is under 80%? The lower the LTV in most cases the better the credits you get so for me its 46% and am in the sweet spot. Is the % a 30 or 15? with it being that low I'd assume 15?



Who's the lender? As A=1420 looks like points or origination fees which with a $256k loan you should work a few other places that would not charge you that such as LC.


The Credit dosent look that great but that matters if its a 15 or 30...if its 15 again I think you should be able to get more esp if the other items such as Credit, LTV, DTI are good.


Honestly, Loan Cabin has been slow but have been reputable with all the responses here and the biggest credit in their name is that whatever they are quoting is what you are getting and not bait and switch crap. They along with any other low cost lender is backed up and will require you to be persistent and bug them everyday or maybe even twice a day to get what you need. Time is money sure but no one here is Bezos here Smilie so dont lose the focus of putting in the work now to reap the benefits going forward.


Shahhere
Thank you so much for the reply
Here some information I forgot to put in there.
30 yr loan
LTV 73
Lender lofi
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08-01-2020 at 01:09 PM.
I tried to get loan cabin to send a le or even disclosures. Everything is through email yesterday I thought I would get something but nothing came. I don't want to give up on them. Especially because I can save thousands of dollars in loan cost.
Can anyone give advice on what they did to get the ball moving with loan cabin
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Quote from jrornelas101 :
I tried to get loan cabin to send a le or even disclosures. Everything is through email yesterday I thought I would get something but nothing came. I don't want to give up on them. Especially because I can save thousands of dollars in loan cost.
Can anyone give advice on what they did to get the ball moving with loan cabin
when did u put in the App? LC sent an email update stating they are processing apps fifo, and currently processing apps dated 7/23 as of yesterday.
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08-01-2020 at 01:33 PM.
08-01-2020 at 01:33 PM.
As I am not getting the NH State from this list, I tried to get hold one lender in MA.

Loan $360,000 Rate 2.25%, 15 years refinance. 64% LTV.

J: $4,900-Lender Credit: 1,250 = $3,650 (Closing cost)

The only catch is I should sign in within 1 day which is tomorrow 2/8/20. Otherwise this rate will change and if any interest reduction until the closure, the rate will not be reduced. Is it a good deal or will there be any more catch? Please add your thoughts.
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Quote from DenverBeng :
when did u put in the App? LC sent an email update stating they are processing apps fifo, and currently processing apps dated 7/23 as of yesterday.
Quote from DenverBeng :
when did u put in the App? LC sent an email update stating they are processing apps fifo, and currently processing apps dated 7/23 as of yesterday.
i submitted the online app on 7/24 last friday
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Quote from pet1 :
As I am not getting the NH State from this list, I tried to get hold one lender in MA.

Loan $360,000 Rate 2.25%, 15 years refinance. 64% LTV.

J: $4,900-Lender Credit: 1,250 = $3,650 (Closing cost)

The only catch is I should sign in within 1 day which is tomorrow 2/8/20. Otherwise this rate will change and if any interest reduction until the closure, the rate will not be reduced. Is it a good deal or will there be any more catch? Please add your thoughts.
How is your credit? Based on numbers I have seen from other posters, if you have high credit score 760 or higher and do not have a time restriction, you should at least get a quote from Loan Cabin. They are backed up and slower to respond. You might not get a reply for a couple days, but I think you can do better. Of course, if you are extremely risk averse, then you would sign what you have but know that doesn't mean you can't still apply with other lenders and withdraw. Just read the fine print and understand what your signature is agreeing to. Not that it matters, but if I were you, I would definitely put in a couple more applications.
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Quote from jrornelas101 :
i submitted the online app on 7/24 last friday
Jrornelas, so did I. I got my first reply on Thursday after sending email to [email protected] and then a draft LE on Friday. I assume everyone's Initial LE from Loan Cabin has DRAFT watermarked on all pages?

I asked how I could lock and if I could use a different title company for NJ but did not get a reply yesterday. I will follow-up again on Monday.
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Quote from MeAPhool :
How is your credit? Based on numbers I have seen from other posters, if you have high credit score 760 or higher and do not have a time restriction, you should at least get a quote from Loan Cabin. They are backed up and slower to respond. You might not get a reply for a couple days, but I think you can do better. Of course, if you are extremely risk averse, then you would sign what you have but know that doesn't mean you can't still apply with other lenders and withdraw. Just read the fine print and understand what your signature is agreeing to. Not that it matters, but if I were you, I would definitely put in a couple more applications.
Thanks for the prompt update. Credit is 780+. I tried LoanCabin and others, they are not serving in NH State from the whole list other than amerisave.
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Quote from shahhere :
$510K loan at 35% LTV? 1.5Million house? Holy Shit ......


Yes, LC no cost = no A&B or very little in B such as Credit fee, Flood Cert etc for a under $200 on average is what I've seen. C=Title and people cannot answer that for you as its variable depending on your situation. Shop using the low cost title companies and you'll get the cost but its standard with the said Title Company you pick.


Same with E cannot answer for you but that it wont matter. Since you have a 2.25% you should use those numbers and you'll know if 2.125% is lower or not with more money in your pocket.


Shahhere
Thanks Shahhere for the pointers.
The 2.25% I have is with Rateplus, so I can safely assume that the C and E part should not be too far off between Rateplus and LoanCabin?

Would LoanCabin back out from their quotes without their Loan Estimate?

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Quote from refitime :
Which lenders did you have who didn't ask for updated pay stubs at closing or funding?
WaterMark, LoanDepot
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Quote from pet1 :
Thanks for the prompt update. Credit is 780+. I tried LoanCabin and others, they are not serving in NH State from the whole list other than amerisave.
Oh NH.... Once lenderfi accepts applications again, you could try them. You could try better.com like everyone else and send them competitors LE to see if they will match/beat.

The other option is to find a broker that works with United wholesale . look on page 56 or 57.. I quoted the 2 other members who provided that information. According to the yahoo article, they might provide good rates too.
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Quote from MeAPhool :
Oh NH.... Once lenderfi accepts applications again, you could try them. You could try better.com like everyone else and send them competitors LE to see if they will match/beat.

The other option is to find a broker that works with United wholesale . look on page 56 or 57.. I quoted the 2 other members who provided that information. According to the yahoo article, they might provide good rates too.

The LenderFi backdoor was discussed so see if that is still open to submit an application:
https://www.lenderfi.com/apply-online/


Shahhere
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Quote from shahhere :
The LenderFi backdoor was discussed so see if that is still open to submit an application:
https://www.lenderfi.com/apply-online/


Shahhere
I applied on the backdoor about two weeks ago. I never heard anything from them about my application. The rate sucked anyways but wanted to see if they would beat HTL before I closed. In fact I just checked the messages in my account and I see mine but no response.
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Has any one in this thread got 3% or less for rental property (30 years, 75% loan) ? if yes please provide specifics and provider ..
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Quote from MeAPhool :
Oh NH.... Once lenderfi accepts applications again, you could try them. You could try better.com like everyone else and send them competitors LE to see if they will match/beat.

The other option is to find a broker that works with United wholesale . look on page 56 or 57.. I quoted the 2 other members who provided that information. According to the yahoo article, they might provide good rates too.
Thanks. WaterMark confirmed that they will not serve in NH, however they did in the past but not now. Looks like Better also says dont find any loan for my NH search and getting the result as follows.
"We're expanding, but haven't reached New Hampshire yet".

I have tried 5-6 lenders from UWholeSaleMortgage search list and none of them providing below of 2.25.

RatePlus is also not serving in NH. The only I can see from the list of AmeriSave and aim. But they are not providing least rate.
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