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MSI GE63 Raider RGB 9SE-882US Gaming Laptop, 15.6” 1080p 144Hz, i7-9750H, RTX 2060, 32GB DDR4, 512GB NVMe SSD, 1TB HDD $1199

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Good specs: a solid last generation CPU, a current upper-mid range GPU, RAM and storage sufficient for the future, and at least $200 lower than places like B&H and XoticPC. Discount comes to 25% off as a clearance item. YMMV of course, see brickseek link below for availability.

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Good specs: a solid last generation CPU, a current upper-mid range GPU, RAM and storage sufficient for the future, and at least $200 lower than places like B&H and XoticPC. Discount comes to 25% off as a clearance item. YMMV of course, see brickseek link below for availability.

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https://www.walmart.com/ip/MSI-15.../540696976

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One store near me had it for $799 (50% off) but sold out already. Dang, that would have been a smoking deal.
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Quote from Chemosh013 :
One store near me had it for $799 (50% off) but sold out already. Dang, that would have been a smoking deal.
I saw a deal for the HP Omen which is what I went there to buy.
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Jeremytg3
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Looking for an affordable gaming laptop. Was thinking HP Omen from Best Buy with Ryzen 4800 and 1660 ti. Is this a better deal? $1200 is about where I want to be price wise.
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Quote from Jeremytg3 :
Looking for an affordable gaming laptop. Was thinking HP Omen from Best Buy with Ryzen 4800 and 1660 ti. Is this a better deal? $1200 is about where I want to be price wise.
I wanted the same specs and the laptop you're looking at has a moderately better processor but slightly worse/older graphics card than the MSI. That's not a bad thing depending on what you're doing with the device. Gaming often relies more heavily on the graphics card vs the processor in the way of bottlenecks, and often times you can get by with a lower spec'd processor (i5, or 4600) without seeing a big difference.

Regarding 1660 ti versus 2060, the former is missing ray tracing which is likely to be utilized more in the future. Either one will play most games at high settings but the 2060 may be slightly better for the 2-4 year future.

Did you check out the Omen availability at your local Walmart? They are on clearance along with a lower spec'd GL63,
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https://www.cpubenchmark.net/comp...3425vs3702
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Quote from ewbuzzbomb :
I wanted the same specs and the laptop you're looking at has a moderately better processor but slightly worse/older graphics card than the MSI. That's not a bad thing depending on what you're doing with the device. Gaming often relies more heavily on the graphics card vs the processor in the way of bottlenecks, and often times you can get by with a lower spec'd processor (i5, or 4600) without seeing a big difference.

Regarding 1660 ti versus 2060, the former is missing ray tracing which is likely to be utilized more in the future. Either one will play most games at high settings but the 2060 may be slightly better for the 2-4 year future.

Did you check out the Omen availability at your local Walmart? They are on clearance along with a lower spec'd GL63,
Yea I didn't see any near me at Walmart. Best Buy does have the 8gb Ram, 512gb ssd Omen near me for $1100 I believe. I have some ram and an ssd I can throw in so that does t concern me. Honestly I'm a casual gamer at best so I don't need something insane. The reviews of the Omen seem promising from what I've seen.
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I got a GF65 with the same CPU and video card, and 16GB and no HDD for about 80 bucks less in April, and was happy with it.

If you're on the fence, I expect to see sales on 9750-based notebooks as the 10th gen and 4000-series AMD CPUs become more prevalent, but I am definitely happy with mine.

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https://www.cpubenchmark.net/comp...3425vs3702
You're comparing a 1 year old processor with brand new ones on 7nm. It was pretty clearly stated that this was last generation technology, but regardless it holds up fine unless you're doing a whole bunch of multitasking or CPU-intensive tasks. The effect on gaming is nil since the GPU will be the bottleneck.
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Question is, is this the new higher wattage RTX Refresh chips, or the older 60W chips?
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Better wait for 2020 model year deals, last year's RTX 2060 is vastly inferior to current year:

1. On May 2020, Nvidia expanded new RTX 2060 chip power limit from 80w to 115w, the raw performance increased by 17% matching most RTX 2070 MQ performance, source: https://www.techspot.com/review/2...rformance/ Since it's a hardware revision, so no improvements on existing RTX 2060.
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The new 115W power limit allows the RTX 2060 to close the gap significantly on the RTX 2070. Where previously the 2060 configured at 80W was 17% slower on average and sometimes more than that, when comparing the 115W 2060 to the 115W 2070, the 2060 is now just 7% slower. In some games the two GPUs perform very similarly, in others there's more of a performance gap.
2. Nvidia also reduced RTX 2060 OEM price to match last year's GTX 1660 Ti, so there will be more RTX 2060 hit $999 price point where last year's GTX 1660 Ti at.
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With this refresh Nvidia is also promising reduced prices for RTX 2060 laptops, in line with GTX 1660 Ti models of last year. The GTX 1660 Ti is also cheaper now, and while so far we haven't seen any laptops that hit Nvidia's promised $999 target price for the 2060, generally speaking any new RTX 2060 laptop will be cheaper and possibly faster than previous-gen models.
3. 2020 model year laptop mostly equipped better hardwares too: gen 10 intel or Ryzen 3, wifi 6 w/ Bluetooth 5, slim screen.

So consider all the changes, it'll be wise to get a 2020 model year RTX 2060 than previous gen even if the superficial discount looks large.
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FWIW, I've been looking for a gaming laptop for a while. Took a hard look at the eluktronics RP-17 because it had an AMD Renoir chip with the 2060 - then looked at the recent costco deal for the MSI GE75 raider. I would say that is a better deal than this because I believe they are the same price, but that one has the better processor (10th gen intel i7) vs. this older one (though as previously pointed out, for most this is just fine)...though this one has an insane amount of RAM so you need not worry there. also the costco one is 17" AND if you use the costco credit card you have the insane warranty plus costco's famous return friendly policies.

I ended up with an Asus ROG Zephyrus G14 used return from Best Buy for $1,230. I am Renoir all the way, dont' want to dump more money into an inferior Intel product if i don't have to.
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Quote from bentrinh :
Question is, is this the new higher wattage RTX Refresh chips, or the older 60W chips?
Since it's using gen 9 cpu, bigger chance it's still using the old 80w chip, new refresh chip just released after April-May 2020: https://www.tomshardware.com/news...sh-laptops
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Quote from Jeremytg3 :
Looking for an affordable gaming laptop. Was thinking HP Omen from Best Buy with Ryzen 4800 and 1660 ti. Is this a better deal? $1200 is about where I want to be price wise.
Just got the Asus TUF A15 (144Hz, 4800H, 1660 Ti, 16GB ram, 512GB SSD, 90Whr battery) for $999. People like to shit on the display quality though.
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Anyone knowledge on build quality?

Display?


Those hinges 🤔?

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Hard Drive. Yuck.
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