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Sony 77' OLED XBR-77A9G for $3799 FS, Tax Included

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Greentoe is offering the Sony 77" A9G OLED TV for $3999 including tax and shipping. I placed an offer for lower but received an immediate counteroffer for $3999. Have been debating this versus the Samsung 82 Q90R for $3300 plus tax.

https://www.greentoe.com/product/...V_XBR77A9G

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Update: new offer that was given is $3799. I accepted that as that is close to the LG price and this offers better image processing.
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How does this compare to the 77" LG OLED?
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How does this compare to the 77" LG OLED?
I believe that they are very similar and according to Rtings the LG may be a bit better. You are somewhat paying for the Sony Brand. Right now the Sony is 4500 everywhere plus tax.

https://www.rtings.com/tv/tools/c...9g/802/833
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I believe that they are very similar and according to Rtings the LG may be a bit better. You are somewhat paying for the Sony Brand. Right now the Sony is 4500 everywhere plus tax.

https://www.rtings.com/tv/tools/c...9g/802/833
Thank you for that, that was really helpful!

It shows that the LG C9 has lower input lag and support for VRR which are both things I care about.
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No Variable Refresh Rate and HDMI 2.1 along with worse input lag make this a pass vs the LG for me
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How does this compare to the 77" LG OLED?
I used to work with an LG engineer who was previously at Sony. From what I understand, Sony uses LG manufactured screens. So the glass and display are built by LG, but the guts are all different. From what I remember him saying, Sony uses higher quality components than LG does, but that was a few years ago, and I don't know if anything has changed since then. So in his opinion, you were not paying just for the Sony brand name, but higher quality chips, boards, etc.

Take this second hand information for what it is.
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Has anyone tried using this TV as a center speaker? How does it compare to an actual center speaker? This TV uses the glass of the TV as the speaker itself so the sound comes from the TV, but I'm not sure how well it would sound when connected to a mid-range 5.1 system (Polk Audio speakers and Toshiba amp).

I would like to eliminate my center speaker because I am mounting this above my fireplace and no center speaker would allow me to mount it 8 inches lower and it already will be too high.
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How does this compare to the 77" LG OLED?
The biggest advantage for the Sony is the image processing. 1080p content looks much better due to superior upscaling.

Otherwise they use the same panel - very similar.
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The biggest advantage for the Sony is the image processing. 1080p content looks much better due to superior upscaling.

Otherwise they use the same panel - very similar.
I agree with this comment... gaming better on LG... watching TV better on Sony...
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Call me simple, but I had a good laugh picturing this thing after reading the title line with 77' (rather than 77").
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Has anyone tried using this TV as a center speaker? How does it compare to an actual center speaker? This TV uses the glass of the TV as the speaker itself so the sound comes from the TV, but I'm not sure how well it would sound when connected to a mid-range 5.1 system (Polk Audio speakers and Toshiba amp).

I would like to eliminate my center speaker because I am mounting this above my fireplace and no center speaker would allow me to mount it 8 inches lower and it already will be too high.
The problem would be connecting the speaker output of the amp to the tv, which I think no tv has the ability to do. You're going to want to find some mounting solution for your center, even if you get a smaller speaker to work with your setup.
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Has anyone tried using this TV as a center speaker? How does it compare to an actual center speaker? This TV uses the glass of the TV as the speaker itself so the sound comes from the TV, but I'm not sure how well it would sound when connected to a mid-range 5.1 system (Polk Audio speakers and Toshiba amp).

I would like to eliminate my center speaker because I am mounting this above my fireplace and no center speaker would allow me to mount it 8 inches lower and it already will be too high.
The TV speaker is not going to sound good when compared to a dedicated tv center. If you can't do a center then you may just be better off running a 2.1 / 4.1 system. I've done something like that for my living room fireplace, it's not one of the more heavily used tvs and I just wanted clearer sounds but didn't want to setup a full blown surround system.
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How does this compare to the 77" LG OLED?
LG all the way. LG has always been fair with me with both out of warranty and in warranty repairs over the years, whereas Sony has found every excuse in the book to get out of warranting two products, one being a nearly $3000 TV. The other product was a several hundred dollar product with known eeprom issues that they knew had a design flaw but would only replace with another that would crap out again in a few months until they didn't have to warranty it anymore. My 77" OLED is an LG and I couldn't be happier. Not to mention the gaming aspect is incredible if you use it.

Sony's technology is top notch, their picture quality on their sets are gorgeous, but I question the longevity of their engineering due to multiple issues I've had over the years. I still purchase some Sony gear occasionally, but I buy the longest third party warranty I can with it.
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The problem would be connecting the speaker output of the amp to the tv, which I think no tv has the ability to do. You're going to want to find some mounting solution for your center, even if you get a smaller speaker to work with your setup.
This particular model does have speaker input terminals that can be fed by a channel from an amp.
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I used to work with an LG engineer who was previously at Sony. From what I understand, Sony uses LG manufactured screens. So the glass and display are built by LG, but the guts are all different. From what I remember him saying, Sony uses higher quality components than LG does, but that was a few years ago, and I don't know if anything has changed since then. So in his opinion, you were not paying just for the Sony brand name, but higher quality chips, boards, etc.

Take this second hand information for what it is.
Right, they use the same screen, but in general Sony image processing is better - which is particularly noticable the lower the original quality is and the closer you are to the TV. However, most of my content is 1080p or better, and I sit 14' away such that I can hardly tell between 720p and 1080p, let alone subtle differences in image processing at 720p.

I was more interested in feature differences, and the link another poster provided answered that:

This Sony may have slightly better image processing for lower resolution content, but the LG C9 has lower input lag and support for Variable Refresh Rate making it superior for gaming. For my purposes, as an occasional gamer, the LG C9 is strictly superior, I just wish it was cheaper.

Also, I have an LG B7 now and I absolutely love the OS and remote - I use the TV remote as a universal remote to control all of my devices via HDMI-CEC and it works really well.

I also have a TCL 6 series, and while it's a good TV for the price, the difference in quality is obvious. My LG B7 has much better screen uniformity, much wider viewing angles, better contrast, less dirty screen effect, better OS (I greatly prefer the LG OS to the TCL's Roku), much better HDMI-ARC support (the TCL sometimes doesn't initialize audio, forcing toggling it off and back on, and getting to the setting via the Roku menu is a pain), better HDMI-CEC support (the TCL remote can't control anything else), and better picture mode support (the LG supports a different picture profile automatically loaded for each different source and/or input so you can always have the best profile for each source and input, while the TCL has a global brightness setting that applies to every source and input even though the proper setting for HDR is "brightest" and the proper setting for SDR is "darkest", thus you either have to change the setting every time you change between HDR and SDR content - and who remembers to do that? - or settle for a single global brightness setting that leaves one or the other - or both - sub-optimal).

Sorry for the overly long comment, I'm just trying to be helpful and hope other people find it useful. Smilie
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