| Product Description: | At Echelon, we believe fitness is a lifestyle, not a status symbol. Your goals may take a little sacrifice, but the price of your bike shouldn't. That’s why we developed the Echelon Connect Bike that seamlessly combines fitness and tech to offer the best in stationary biking at a fraction of the cost. Paired with the Echelon Fit App, your Echelon Connect allows you to go at your own pace on your own time. Select from over 1,600 cycling classes of all fitness levels and music genres. Filter by length, music, language, instructor and more to find the perfect class. Take the beginners classes with Brian, or jump right into 75-minute endurance with Megan. Whichever class you choose, enjoy it from the comfort and convenience of your own home. The Echelon Connects magnetic flywheel offers 32 levels of resistance, providing a challenging workout for both beginners and experienced riders. It’s ergonomically customizable allowing you to find your perfect fit and ideal comfort to enhance your workout. Fully padded bullhorn handlebars are perfect for transitioning between high-speed and high-resistance postures.The Echelon Experience is a new approach to fitness centered around indoor cycling.The Echelon idea began with the Smart Connect bike and has since evolved into a full spectrum of products and classes to match. With the Echelon Fit App, anyone can train on their own time from the comfort of their own home with hundreds of live and on-demand classes for any fitness level taught by our professional and talented instructors. The Echelon Fit App provides a totally immersive fitness experience in the comfort and convenience of your own home. From warm up to cool down, members will be guided by world-class instructors to encourage, challenge, and celebrate as limits are pushed and goals are met. Members can participate in live or on-demand rides, and even choose from a library of off-the-bike classes featuring yoga, barre, Pilates, strength training, Zumba, and more. |
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A couple racing years I did 90% of my riding on spin bikes and was a top 10% age grouper. You ride outside, in groups and such, and I highly doubt you push yourself as hard as you can/would in an instructor led class. Granted I don't do 50+ mile rides on a spin bike, but I do long climb and speed intervals along with HIIT rides on the spin bike which will do more for you than a typical group ride with a few pushes here and there.
On a spin bike, you have zero worries of any outside factors, balance when applying drive and pressure, no potholes, cars, lights, and Yada Yada Yada. No rain, snow, cold.
As with any workout, you get out of it what you put into it. Countless times I'd hop off the bike to coach individuals, and it's amazing to see the jump in wattage when you call people out mid class. Even just small changes. A vast majority don't work as hard as they are able. They don't know how to push themselves. They don't understand they can sustain a certain HR or resistance for x amount of time because they just see something is hard and plateau. And that goes for outside riders too.
So when people tell you a certain class or a certain was ride easy, it's bullshit. They took it easy. If you felt you weren't being challenged, it's your hand that adjusts the resistance knob to add resistance or pedal faster or both. You're the one that realizes I actually can sustain this level of of effort longer than I thought or give more effort than previously because you actually attempt to.
That's the benefit of a good instructor and instructor led classes. Good ones are more like coaches. They should inspire you to work harder and put in the effort to a greater degree than you typically will do on your own. So if you don't get a good workout in, it's usually one of two things, the instructor wasn't motivating enough or you were just being a wuss (sorry not sorry), outside factors notwithstanding.
And that said, I paid $650 for my well over $2k Chrono power with its beefy aluminum build, very adjustable seat and handlebars, included spd pedals, power meter and BT connected computer that trounce any computer on these retail bikes. The computer connects via BT to wahoo along with my broadcast HR from my Garmin watch (so many don't know you can broadcast HR to BT computers and fitness apps on your phone). Wahoo connects to strava as does my Garmin. Don't really care about zwift, but I suppose I could connect to it via BT.
The only reason to get a Peloton bike is if you just have to be seen on the leader board and want shout outs from instructors. Otherwise, whether you have the spin bike computer that does BT or you buy the speed/cadence sensors along with your HR device that will record info on your phone, you can gauge your own performance and improvement.
Most cheap retail bikes have crap computers and you're better off buying speed/cadence sensors from wahoo. Garmin or even cheap off branded ones (provided you have good reviews from say zwift or other cycling forums).
But I would look at Craigslist, FB Marketplace, Letgo and the like for people selling commercial spin bikes because they lost interest or its a seller that bought at a gym's bikes. They'll be more solid, stable, come with SPD pedals, have a better computer (and possibly a connected one). And if that route isn't successful, then I'd go with something like this or Sunny or whatever. Just keep in mind, you might end up spending for clip in pedals, a better seat, speed/cadence sensors and so on which drives up that price, hence looking at used commercial bikes that might include everything already.
In the end, if it gets you to work out consistently, who gives a crap what you buy, as long as it works for you and it doesn't become a clothes rack.
What you do want though in the grand scheme is magnetic resistance (not friction) and belt drive (not a chain). 4 way adjustability on the handlebars and seat. Some are fine with only 2 way adjustability on handlebars, but if you're not, you're stuck. I hated previous gen Keiser bikes because of that.
Clip in pedals and actual bike shoes will allow you to apply more power and have a smoother pedal stroke than cages and sneakers. A relatively cheap upgrade for a more effective workout. Mountain bike shoes work well since they are geared around walking around off the bike. Road shoes and wood floors don't mix well though many three point cleats/clip in systems don't have any metal contacting the ground. SPD is also what's used in spin studios so having spd shoes makes it easier to transition from home to the studio. If you do ride outside, you've probably moved in from spd and can always swap the spin bike pedals for something that works with your setup. I use spd since I'm doing both home and studio, but I have Time pedals on my road bikes. I don't long for them on the spin bikes. I'm used to the difference between them.
Off the soap box of that very long winded post. Hope it's somewhat helpful.
Yes the metrics will show on your phone or whatever in the echelon app under freestyle ride. I use accessibility to zoom in on them too. It shows cadence, watts , and resistance level and some sub metrics (distance calories averages - all bs numbers honestly).
I've run comparisons to peloton in terms of cadence and output and the resistance setting is just less than half of the low range of the peloton setting the instructors call roughly (you get a feel for what you need as you do rides but that's a very good starting point). so when the instructor says 30-45 on peloton, on this you use 14-15 to start.
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A couple racing years I did 90% of my riding on spin bikes and was a top 10% age grouper. You ride outside, in groups and such, and I highly doubt you push yourself as hard as you can/would in an instructor led class. Granted I don't do 50+ mile rides on a spin bike, but I do long climb and speed intervals along with HIIT rides on the spin bike which will do more for you than a typical group ride with a few pushes here and there.
On a spin bike, you have zero worries of any outside factors, balance when applying drive and pressure, no potholes, cars, lights, and Yada Yada Yada. No rain, snow, cold.
As with any workout, you get out of it what you put into it. Countless times I'd hop off the bike to coach individuals, and it's amazing to see the jump in wattage when you call people out mid class. Even just small changes. A vast majority don't work as hard as they are able. They don't know how to push themselves. They don't understand they can sustain a certain HR or resistance for x amount of time because they just see something is hard and plateau. And that goes for outside riders too.
So when people tell you a certain class or a certain was ride easy, it's bullshit. They took it easy. If you felt you weren't being challenged, it's your hand that adjusts the resistance knob to add resistance or pedal faster or both. You're the one that realizes I actually can sustain this level of of effort longer than I thought or give more effort than previously because you actually attempt to.
That's the benefit of a good instructor and instructor led classes. Good ones are more like coaches. They should inspire you to work harder and put in the effort to a greater degree than you typically will do on your own. So if you don't get a good workout in, it's usually one of two things, the instructor wasn't motivating enough or you were just being a wuss (sorry not sorry), outside factors notwithstanding.
And that said, I paid $650 for my well over $2k Chrono power with its beefy aluminum build, very adjustable seat and handlebars, included spd pedals, power meter and BT connected computer that trounce any computer on these retail bikes. The computer connects via BT to wahoo along with my broadcast HR from my Garmin watch (so many don't know you can broadcast HR to BT computers and fitness apps on your phone). Wahoo connects to strava as does my Garmin. Don't really care about zwift, but I suppose I could connect to it via BT.
The only reason to get a Peloton bike is if you just have to be seen on the leader board and want shout outs from instructors. Otherwise, whether you have the spin bike computer that does BT or you buy the speed/cadence sensors along with your HR device that will record info on your phone, you can gauge your own performance and improvement.
Most cheap retail bikes have crap computers and you're better off buying speed/cadence sensors from wahoo. Garmin or even cheap off branded ones (provided you have good reviews from say zwift or other cycling forums).
But I would look at Craigslist, FB Marketplace, Letgo and the like for people selling commercial spin bikes because they lost interest or its a seller that bought at a gym's bikes. They'll be more solid, stable, come with SPD pedals, have a better computer (and possibly a connected one). And if that route isn't successful, then I'd go with something like this or Sunny or whatever. Just keep in mind, you might end up spending for clip in pedals, a better seat, speed/cadence sensors and so on which drives up that price, hence looking at used commercial bikes that might include everything already.
In the end, if it gets you to work out consistently, who gives a crap what you buy, as long as it works for you and it doesn't become a clothes rack.
What you do want though in the grand scheme is magnetic resistance (not friction) and belt drive (not a chain). 4 way adjustability on the handlebars and seat. Some are fine with only 2 way adjustability on handlebars, but if you're not, you're stuck. I hated previous gen Keiser bikes because of that.
Clip in pedals and actual bike shoes will allow you to apply more power and have a smoother pedal stroke than cages and sneakers. A relatively cheap upgrade for a more effective workout. Mountain bike shoes work well since they are geared around walking around off the bike. Road shoes and wood floors don't mix well though many three point cleats/clip in systems don't have any metal contacting the ground. SPD is also what's used in spin studios so having spd shoes makes it easier to transition from home to the studio. If you do ride outside, you've probably moved in from spd and can always swap the spin bike pedals for something that works with your setup. I use spd since I'm doing both home and studio, but I have Time pedals on my road bikes. I don't long for them on the spin bikes. I'm used to the difference between them.
Off the soap box of that very long winded post. Hope it's somewhat helpful.
A couple racing years I did 90% of my riding on spin bikes and was a top 10% age grouper. You ride outside, in groups and such, and I highly doubt you push yourself as hard as you can/would in an instructor led class. Granted I don't do 50+ mile rides on a spin bike, but I do long climb and speed intervals along with HIIT rides on the spin bike which will do more for you than a typical group ride with a few pushes here and there.
On a spin bike, you have zero worries of any outside factors, balance when applying drive and pressure, no potholes, cars, lights, and Yada Yada Yada. No rain, snow, cold.
As with any workout, you get out of it what you put into it. Countless times I'd hop off the bike to coach individuals, and it's amazing to see the jump in wattage when you call people out mid class. Even just small changes. A vast majority don't work as hard as they are able. They don't know how to push themselves. They don't understand they can sustain a certain HR or resistance for x amount of time because they just see something is hard and plateau. And that goes for outside riders too.
So when people tell you a certain class or a certain was ride easy, it's bullshit. They took it easy. If you felt you weren't being challenged, it's your hand that adjusts the resistance knob to add resistance or pedal faster or both. You're the one that realizes I actually can sustain this level of of effort longer than I thought or give more effort than previously because you actually attempt to.
That's the benefit of a good instructor and instructor led classes. Good ones are more like coaches. They should inspire you to work harder and put in the effort to a greater degree than you typically will do on your own. So if you don't get a good workout in, it's usually one of two things, the instructor wasn't motivating enough or you were just being a wuss (sorry not sorry), outside factors notwithstanding.
And that said, I paid $650 for my well over $2k Chrono power with its beefy aluminum build, very adjustable seat and handlebars, included spd pedals, power meter and BT connected computer that trounce any computer on these retail bikes. The computer connects via BT to wahoo along with my broadcast HR from my Garmin watch (so many don't know you can broadcast HR to BT computers and fitness apps on your phone). Wahoo connects to strava as does my Garmin. Don't really care about zwift, but I suppose I could connect to it via BT.
The only reason to get a Peloton bike is if you just have to be seen on the leader board and want shout outs from instructors. Otherwise, whether you have the spin bike computer that does BT or you buy the speed/cadence sensors along with your HR device that will record info on your phone, you can gauge your own performance and improvement.
Most cheap retail bikes have crap computers and you're better off buying speed/cadence sensors from wahoo. Garmin or even cheap off branded ones (provided you have good reviews from say zwift or other cycling forums).
But I would look at Craigslist, FB Marketplace, Letgo and the like for people selling commercial spin bikes because they lost interest or its a seller that bought at a gym's bikes. They'll be more solid, stable, come with SPD pedals, have a better computer (and possibly a connected one). And if that route isn't successful, then I'd go with something like this or Sunny or whatever. Just keep in mind, you might end up spending for clip in pedals, a better seat, speed/cadence sensors and so on which drives up that price, hence looking at used commercial bikes that might include everything already.
In the end, if it gets you to work out consistently, who gives a crap what you buy, as long as it works for you and it doesn't become a clothes rack.
What you do want though in the grand scheme is magnetic resistance (not friction) and belt drive (not a chain). 4 way adjustability on the handlebars and seat. Some are fine with only 2 way adjustability on handlebars, but if you're not, you're stuck. I hated previous gen Keiser bikes because of that.
Clip in pedals and actual bike shoes will allow you to apply more power and have a smoother pedal stroke than cages and sneakers. A relatively cheap upgrade for a more effective workout. Mountain bike shoes work well since they are geared around walking around off the bike. Road shoes and wood floors don't mix well though many three point cleats/clip in systems don't have any metal contacting the ground. SPD is also what's used in spin studios so having spd shoes makes it easier to transition from home to the studio. If you do ride outside, you've probably moved in from spd and can always swap the spin bike pedals for something that works with your setup. I use spd since I'm doing both home and studio, but I have Time pedals on my road bikes. I don't long for them on the spin bikes. I'm used to the difference between them.
Off the soap box of that very long winded post. Hope it's somewhat helpful.
A couple racing years I did 90% of my riding on spin bikes and was a top 10% age grouper. You ride outside, in groups and such, and I highly doubt you push yourself as hard as you can/would in an instructor led class. Granted I don't do 50+ mile rides on a spin bike, but I do long climb and speed intervals along with HIIT rides on the spin bike which will do more for you than a typical group ride with a few pushes here and there.
On a spin bike, you have zero worries of any outside factors, balance when applying drive and pressure, no potholes, cars, lights, and Yada Yada Yada. No rain, snow, cold.
As with any workout, you get out of it what you put into it. Countless times I'd hop off the bike to coach individuals, and it's amazing to see the jump in wattage when you call people out mid class. Even just small changes. A vast majority don't work as hard as they are able. They don't know how to push themselves. They don't understand they can sustain a certain HR or resistance for x amount of time because they just see something is hard and plateau. And that goes for outside riders too.
So when people tell you a certain class or a certain was ride easy, it's bullshit. They took it easy. If you felt you weren't being challenged, it's your hand that adjusts the resistance knob to add resistance or pedal faster or both. You're the one that realizes I actually can sustain this level of of effort longer than I thought or give more effort than previously because you actually attempt to.
That's the benefit of a good instructor and instructor led classes. Good ones are more like coaches. They should inspire you to work harder and put in the effort to a greater degree than you typically will do on your own. So if you don't get a good workout in, it's usually one of two things, the instructor wasn't motivating enough or you were just being a wuss (sorry not sorry), outside factors notwithstanding.
And that said, I paid $650 for my well over $2k Chrono power with its beefy aluminum build, very adjustable seat and handlebars, included spd pedals, power meter and BT connected computer that trounce any computer on these retail bikes. The computer connects via BT to wahoo along with my broadcast HR from my Garmin watch (so many don't know you can broadcast HR to BT computers and fitness apps on your phone). Wahoo connects to strava as does my Garmin. Don't really care about zwift, but I suppose I could connect to it via BT.
The only reason to get a Peloton bike is if you just have to be seen on the leader board and want shout outs from instructors. Otherwise, whether you have the spin bike computer that does BT or you buy the speed/cadence sensors along with your HR device that will record info on your phone, you can gauge your own performance and improvement.
Most cheap retail bikes have crap computers and you're better off buying speed/cadence sensors from wahoo. Garmin or even cheap off branded ones (provided you have good reviews from say zwift or other cycling forums).
But I would look at Craigslist, FB Marketplace, Letgo and the like for people selling commercial spin bikes because they lost interest or its a seller that bought at a gym's bikes. They'll be more solid, stable, come with SPD pedals, have a better computer (and possibly a connected one). And if that route isn't successful, then I'd go with something like this or Sunny or whatever. Just keep in mind, you might end up spending for clip in pedals, a better seat, speed/cadence sensors and so on which drives up that price, hence looking at used commercial bikes that might include everything already.
In the end, if it gets you to work out consistently, who gives a crap what you buy, as long as it works for you and it doesn't become a clothes rack.
What you do want though in the grand scheme is magnetic resistance (not friction) and belt drive (not a chain). 4 way adjustability on the handlebars and seat. Some are fine with only 2 way adjustability on handlebars, but if you're not, you're stuck. I hated previous gen Keiser bikes because of that.
Clip in pedals and actual bike shoes will allow you to apply more power and have a smoother pedal stroke than cages and sneakers. A relatively cheap upgrade for a more effective workout. Mountain bike shoes work well since they are geared around walking around off the bike. Road shoes and wood floors don't mix well though many three point cleats/clip in systems don't have any metal contacting the ground. SPD is also what's used in spin studios so having spd shoes makes it easier to transition from home to the studio. If you do ride outside, you've probably moved in from spd and can always swap the spin bike pedals for something that works with your setup. I use spd since I'm doing both home and studio, but I have Time pedals on my road bikes. I don't long for them on the spin bikes. I'm used to the difference between them.
Off the soap box of that very long winded post. Hope it's somewhat helpful.
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After seeing the great reviews on the quality and built. This convinced me to get this one. I ordered one.
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The Schwinn AC Carbon Blue bikes are nice. The carbon designation means it's belt driven. They have the Performance and Sport models I believe.
Lifecycle GX was on my list at the time before I ended up with the chrono power. Lifecycle also has the IC6 which is more of a personal version of the GX and the IC7 as well.
Freemotion S11.9 is another. Had a guy selling one but my buddy didn't want to drive out of the way, and he got a Sunny and had to spend another $100+ outfitting it. Couldn't drive 30 minutes out of his way on the way home... Sigh.
Stages SC3 is similar to the Spinner Chrono. My one gym has them and outside of the resistance knob it has a 3 stop rotating lever (easy/medium/hard) so you have three preset levels which is pretty cool for quick interval changes. Don't see many used though.
Think that's the bulk of them. The Sole SB900 seems like a pretty decent bike as well for a consumer-ish bike. They had a sale price of around a grand. So people unloading them might be taking quite a bit less. They retailed at $1400 originally. They have the SB700 which is like my old Lemond. Belt driven but friction resistance. Nice enough but once you use a magnetic bike, it's tough going back.
Funniest thing. I picked up my bike as quarantine started. I had my run of a gym warehouse. I should've bought a bunch of bikes, weight sets, steps and so on and just rented a uhaul. Called a month later and everything I wanted was long gone. Could've made mint. Did find a bunch of bodypump like weight sets to resell though. My other class I teach.
My sister has the one belt driven magnetic Sunny (B1805). She got it for $600 and change. The computer is worthless, but the bike isn't bad for what she paid. Fully adjustable on the handlebars and seat. Has spd pedals. I sent her links to the speed/cadence sensors, but she hasn't opted for it yet. Has had it since April and uses it about 3 times a week.
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