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Datacolor SXP100 SpyderX Pro Colorimeter

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BH PhotoVideo has Datacolor SXP100 SpyderX Pro Colorimeter on sale for $99.99. Shipping is free. Thanks iconian

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This colorimeter pairs with SpyderX software to provide thorough one-click, wizard-guided monitor calibration, along with display mapping and analysis to fine-tune your results.

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BH PhotoVideo has Datacolor SXP100 SpyderX Pro Colorimeter on sale for $99.99. Shipping is free. Thanks iconian

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This colorimeter pairs with SpyderX software to provide thorough one-click, wizard-guided monitor calibration, along with display mapping and analysis to fine-tune your results.

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nightanole
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Every spyder has the same sensor. Only the software package changes. Spyders use organic filters. Organic filter will redshift after 2.5-3.5 years.

If the "display device" is hooked up to a windows pc, it can be calibrated with any spyder. To calibrate a projector you just need to "show" the spyder the picture on a tripod. The spider 4's had this feature, the spyder 5's still had the tripod mount and it was an undocumented feature. The trick still works with the latest spyders.

I know noone wants to hear "just pay double" but the X-rite i1Display (used to be called color monki) is worlds better and wont degrade over time.

So if you just want to true up an ips display (and maybe charge your freinds 10 bucks to true up their displays) get the $100 spyder. If you depend on color for a paycheck/side hustle, or want to use it for more than 2 years, get the x-rite.
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BoastfulPolice7881
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Quote from revoc :
Lots of 1-star reviews on Amazon but it's impossible to tell if it's from competitors or genuine.
I thrown this device away. It's impossible to get same colors on my dual monitor setup.
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teedee
Sep 9, 2020
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Quote from nightanole :
The newest spyder 4 is 5 years old at this point. The newest spyder 5 is 2 years old.

Again for truing up an ips display, they can still do it better than a human with color index gifs and color gels, even if they are past their expiration date.

The spyderX gets you MUCH faster calibration speed. You can plop down in a new room with new lighting (the pro uses the back eye ball for room calibration) and be up in running in 30 seconds. But its not going be a better calibration vs a spyder 4/5.

However if you are calibrating an OLED or MVA or old plasma, or any other display type other than IPS, the spyders are going to suck when it comes to grey scale and shadow detail. They will redshift those displays and crush the blacks since they can not "see" black levels below that of a standard ips display. And those little blobs of jelly in your skull will auto adapt to the redshift and you wont be able to tell unless you have a correctly calibrated display right next to it.
I have a benq sw270c which is QHD IPS, but I'm using it at 10-bit color. Do you think the spyder 4 still does OK with this monitor? I ran the calibration but tbh, I couldn't tell since the result came out not much different from the manufacture calibration. Thanks for sharing your thought!
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nightanole
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Quote from teedee :
I have a benq sw270c which is QHD IPS, but I'm using it at 10-bit color. Do you think the spyder 4 still does OK with this monitor? I ran the calibration but tbh, I couldn't tell since the result came out not much different from the manufacture calibration. Thanks for sharing your thought!
SHould be fine. Bit depth doesnt matter, only technology and brightness/darkness. And you would assume a good monitor would be close Smilie some just need a bit of brightness/contrast and 1 color band incase there was a blue or red push.

I would double check your settings as HDR on windows is a nightmare to get working correctly. But if its a 10 bit mode, or its just a display that converts 8 bit to 10 bit to prevent banding/stair stepping, you should be good with simply selecting 10 bit instead of 8 bit in nvidia control panel.


EDIT: that is a HDR10 monitor that is already factory calibrated. I would not bother with a $100 meter. You will need a idisplay pro plus that is over half the cost of the monitor to calibrate it. It should have come with a color profile to load.

https://www.benq.com/en-us/suppor...00033.html
Last edited by nightanole September 9, 2020 at 11:26 AM.
Sep 9, 2020
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EJ42
Sep 9, 2020
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Quote from xtp :
Color is a gamut, included in that gamut is Light and Dark.

You have genetically different Cones type/arrangement in your eye, but you have functional Rods.

Even if the case is to true up the RGB grey balance, that's an improvement even you could see.
I need one of these to calibrate my clothing so that nice "gray" shirt I want to purchase doesn't result in me walking around in hot pink. I mean...my friend.

The type of colorblindness that results in only the rods being functional is very severe, and results in difficulty reading since there are no rods in the macula/fovea. Most colorblindness is really just color deficiency. It's kind of like 16-bit or 20-bit color compared to 24-bit or 32-bit. I can still see green, red, blue, yellow, etc., but not to the degree of separation as most people. I often have trouble telling the difference between black and dark navy blue. I have trouble with purple and blue or pink and gray. Sometimes brown and green may look similar. You can put two colors beside each other, and I can tell that they are different, but not necessarily be able to correctly identify them.
Last edited by EJ42 September 9, 2020 at 11:32 AM.
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beegeepee
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Quote from nightanole :
Every spyder has the same sensor. Only the software package changes. Spyders use organic filters. Organic filter will redshift after 2.5-3.5 years.

If the "display device" is hooked up to a windows pc, it can be calibrated with any spyder. To calibrate a projector you just need to "show" the spyder the picture on a tripod. The spider 4's had this feature, the spyder 5's still had the tripod mount and it was an undocumented feature. The trick still works with the latest spyders.

I know noone wants to hear "just pay double" but the X-rite i1Display (used to be called color monki) is worlds better and wont degrade over time.

So if you just want to true up an ips display (and maybe charge your freinds 10 bucks to true up their displays) get the $100 spyder. If you depend on color for a paycheck/side hustle, or want to use it for more than 2 years, get the x-rite.
I was reading the Spyder X changed the filters. Is this incorrect. How do you know the SpyderX uses organic filters that redshift?
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fyu
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Quote from BoastfulPolice7881 :
I thrown this device away. It's impossible to get same colors on my dual monitor setup.
that's very common.
unless you have two monitors that are almost the exact same, then it won't match.

lots of graphics people use only 1 properly calibrated monitor and the others are just reference.
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nightanole
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Quote from beegeepee :
I was reading the Spyder X changed the filters. Is this incorrect. How do you know the SpyderX uses organic filters that redshift?
Still organic. They doubled up the layers so they dont bleach out(red shift) from heat/humidity as quickly. But they still will only last till the next generation comes out. They use an organic ink that is printed onto some Mylar. They do not use an embedded mineral prism like the x-rites.
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beowulf7
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Quote from RyanMPLS :
https://displaycal.net/ or https://sourceforge.net/projects/hcfr/ for free cal software.
Thanks! Which of those 2 do you prefer?
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beegeepee
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Quote from nightanole :
Still organic. They doubled up the layers so they dont bleach out(red shift) from heat/humidity as quickly. But they still will only last till the next generation comes out. They use an organic ink that is printed onto some Mylar. They do not use an embedded mineral prism like the x-rites.
How do you know this? Do you have a source?
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nightanole
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Quote from beegeepee :
How do you know this? Do you have a source?
The spyderX has been out for almost a year and the community as picked it apart.

There is 2 main differences between the X and the 5. The X has a real silicon lens in front of the organic gel filters to protect it and reduce bleaching out from heat/humidity, and it uses a different sensor.

https://ams.com/documents/20143/3...8ed094d758


Spyders do not use dichroic filters that do not age over time. If you can find 1 tear down that says the spyderX uses inorganic filters i will rescind my statement.
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MinisterOfEtc
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Quote from nightanole :
You can even get oem branded idisplays that wont work with x-rite software but are really cheap and then you can use the fancy open source software Smilie
+1

This is what I did. Branded i1Display Pros can be found on eBay for a lot less.

The NEC-branded version I got new, for $20 shipped works perfectly fine with DisplayCAL.
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nightanole
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Quote from MinisterOfEtc :
+1

This is what I did. Branded i1Display Pros can be found on eBay for a lot less.

The NEC-branded version I got new, for $20 shipped works perfectly fine with DisplayCAL.
gotta link? I have a few spider 5 folk looking to replace their 5 year old units for cheap.
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MinisterOfEtc
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Quote from nightanole :
gotta link? I have a few spider 5 folk looking to replace their 5 year old units for cheap.
The model I purchased is the NEC SpectraSensor Pro -- cheapest one currently listed is $140.

I bought my first one for $49 shipped in 2019, and have a 2nd one NIB I picked up for $21 shipped.

Patience is a virtue (so are eBay saved searches).
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Just asked Amazon for price adjustment (bought one almost a month ago - 13th, nice timing for this)
but the csr said she cant but she can issue a refund. So, shipping mine back. 60+ is pretty big

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Quote from nightanole :
Every spyder has the same sensor. Only the software package changes. Spyders use organic filters. Organic filter will redshift after 2.5-3.5 years.

If the "display device" is hooked up to a windows pc, it can be calibrated with any spyder. To calibrate a projector you just need to "show" the spyder the picture on a tripod. The spider 4's had this feature, the spyder 5's still had the tripod mount and it was an undocumented feature. The trick still works with the latest spyders.

I know noone wants to hear "just pay double" but the X-rite i1Display (used to be called color monki) is worlds better and wont degrade over time.

So if you just want to true up an ips display (and maybe charge your freinds 10 bucks to true up their displays) get the $100 spyder. If you depend on color for a paycheck/side hustle, or want to use it for more than 2 years, get the x-rite.
This is why I love slickdeals.

I love all your knowledge, excellent thank you!

You're last paragraph kills me, so true to slickdeals. Wanna calibrate your friend's monitors with this cool $100 gizmo? CHARGE EM THE PLEASURE OF KNOWING YOU! I guess that's how you pay off the slickdeal and buy the next one!!!

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