Meh., how long before they crippled the functionality with their "upgrades". Their ST hub is now pretty much worthless, removing support for many devices, custom code, custom drivers and making it so you have to host your own code/cloud.
I'm so glad I left them, just a couple devices left to move over.
Remember the promises:
>>someone else said it better than me<<
Local Control
Unmatched device support
Ability to self publish
Easy firmware and software updates
Cloud backup
"local control applied to only a small number of devices and SmartThings automations. Unmatched device support only worked if you worked with the developer console to add drivers and apps but it did bring in self publishing.
Easy firmware and software was debatable. If it was firmware embedded devices sure but all the custom device codes always had the risk of failing after a firmware update. And the consumer had no control when updates were pushed.
As for cloud backup, never came to life, if you have a SmartThings device there was no easy way to restore to a replacement hub device.
The strain of all these custom device drivers and apps was showing it age 2 years ago with all the outages of services and Samsung was scrambling to add infrastructure and at the same time working on reducing the cost of the infrastructure with their new development platform that very few were adopting. The only way to force the switch was the set a date of shutdown so at least some key device makers could make the switch. Independents will suffer in their new model since they will now have to stand up services to drive the platform and make it impossible to disconnect from the cloud."
Meh., how long before they crippled the functionality with their "upgrades". Their ST hub is now pretty much worthless, removing support for many devices, custom code, custom drivers and making it so you have to host your own code/cloud.
I'm so glad I left them, just a couple devices left to move over.
Remember the promises:
>>someone else said it better than me<<
Local Control
Unmatched device support
Ability to self publish
Easy firmware and software updates
Cloud backup
"local control applied to only a small number of devices and SmartThings automations. Unmatched device support only worked if you worked with the developer console to add drivers and apps but it did bring in self publishing.
Easy firmware and software was debatable. If it was firmware embedded devices sure but all the custom device codes always had the risk of failing after a firmware update. And the consumer had no control when updates were pushed.
As for cloud backup, never came to life, if you have a SmartThings device there was no easy way to restore to a replacement hub device.
The strain of all these custom device drivers and apps was showing it age 2 years ago with all the outages of services and Samsung was scrambling to add infrastructure and at the same time working on reducing the cost of the infrastructure with their new development platform that very few were adopting. The only way to force the switch was the set a date of shutdown so at least some key device makers could make the switch. Independents will suffer in their new model since they will now have to stand up services to drive the platform and make it impossible to disconnect from the cloud."
What did you switch to? I'm not loving my Smart things setup and looking to migrate away.
Meh., how long before they crippled the functionality with their "upgrades". Their ST hub is now pretty much worthless, removing support for many devices, custom code, custom drivers and making it so you have to host your own code/cloud.
I'm so glad I left them, just a couple devices left to move over.
Remember the promises:
>>someone else said it better than me<<
Local Control
Unmatched device support
Ability to self publish
Easy firmware and software updates
Cloud backup
"local control applied to only a small number of devices and SmartThings automations. Unmatched device support only worked if you worked with the developer console to add drivers and apps but it did bring in self publishing.
Easy firmware and software was debatable. If it was firmware embedded devices sure but all the custom device codes always had the risk of failing after a firmware update. And the consumer had no control when updates were pushed.
As for cloud backup, never came to life, if you have a SmartThings device there was no easy way to restore to a replacement hub device.
The strain of all these custom device drivers and apps was showing it age 2 years ago with all the outages of services and Samsung was scrambling to add infrastructure and at the same time working on reducing the cost of the infrastructure with their new development platform that very few were adopting. The only way to force the switch was the set a date of shutdown so at least some key device makers could make the switch. Independents will suffer in their new model since they will now have to stand up services to drive the platform and make it impossible to disconnect from the cloud."
Meh., how long before they crippled the functionality with their "upgrades". Their ST hub is now pretty much worthless, removing support for many devices, custom code, custom drivers and making it so you have to host your own code/cloud.
I'm so glad I left them, just a couple devices left to move over.
Remember the promises:
>>someone else said it better than me<<
Local Control
Unmatched device support
Ability to self publish
Easy firmware and software updates
Cloud backup
"local control applied to only a small number of devices and SmartThings automations. Unmatched device support only worked if you worked with the developer console to add drivers and apps but it did bring in self publishing.
Easy firmware and software was debatable. If it was firmware embedded devices sure but all the custom device codes always had the risk of failing after a firmware update. And the consumer had no control when updates were pushed.
As for cloud backup, never came to life, if you have a SmartThings device there was no easy way to restore to a replacement hub device.
The strain of all these custom device drivers and apps was showing it age 2 years ago with all the outages of services and Samsung was scrambling to add infrastructure and at the same time working on reducing the cost of the infrastructure with their new development platform that very few were adopting. The only way to force the switch was the set a date of shutdown so at least some key device makers could make the switch. Independents will suffer in their new model since they will now have to stand up services to drive the platform and make it impossible to disconnect from the cloud."
What did you migrate to? Everything was working great with the classic app, but they are replacing it with a crappy app that crashes everytime.
It is $67-$70 elsewhere. Do it is a $18-$20 saving. The camera has 3.5 stars at Amazon though. Not a good choice for camera.
Thank you for being the only on-topic response to the thread so far.
I saw the pricing and wanted to use two for things I either didn't want to use Wyze Cams or Nest Cams for. The great pricing for the functionality is what drove it home for me.
2-way audio sounds robotic on Wyze. That's one reason my wife wants a mix of Wyze (I have many) and Nest/Samsung cams. These were a great deal for me, so just wanting to share the info with others.
EDIT: I love my Wyze products. This isn't a diss on their product, just a weakness of such a low cost, low margin device.
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I'm so glad I left them, just a couple devices left to move over.
Remember the promises:
>>someone else said it better than me<<
Local Control
Unmatched device support
Ability to self publish
Easy firmware and software updates
Cloud backup
"local control applied to only a small number of devices and SmartThings automations. Unmatched device support only worked if you worked with the developer console to add drivers and apps but it did bring in self publishing.
Easy firmware and software was debatable. If it was firmware embedded devices sure but all the custom device codes always had the risk of failing after a firmware update. And the consumer had no control when updates were pushed.
As for cloud backup, never came to life, if you have a SmartThings device there was no easy way to restore to a replacement hub device.
The strain of all these custom device drivers and apps was showing it age 2 years ago with all the outages of services and Samsung was scrambling to add infrastructure and at the same time working on reducing the cost of the infrastructure with their new development platform that very few were adopting. The only way to force the switch was the set a date of shutdown so at least some key device makers could make the switch. Independents will suffer in their new model since they will now have to stand up services to drive the platform and make it impossible to disconnect from the cloud."
I'm so glad I left them, just a couple devices left to move over.
Remember the promises:
>>someone else said it better than me<<
Local Control
Unmatched device support
Ability to self publish
Easy firmware and software updates
Cloud backup
"local control applied to only a small number of devices and SmartThings automations. Unmatched device support only worked if you worked with the developer console to add drivers and apps but it did bring in self publishing.
Easy firmware and software was debatable. If it was firmware embedded devices sure but all the custom device codes always had the risk of failing after a firmware update. And the consumer had no control when updates were pushed.
As for cloud backup, never came to life, if you have a SmartThings device there was no easy way to restore to a replacement hub device.
The strain of all these custom device drivers and apps was showing it age 2 years ago with all the outages of services and Samsung was scrambling to add infrastructure and at the same time working on reducing the cost of the infrastructure with their new development platform that very few were adopting. The only way to force the switch was the set a date of shutdown so at least some key device makers could make the switch. Independents will suffer in their new model since they will now have to stand up services to drive the platform and make it impossible to disconnect from the cloud."
What did you switch to? I'm not loving my Smart things setup and looking to migrate away.
I'm so glad I left them, just a couple devices left to move over.
Remember the promises:
>>someone else said it better than me<<
Local Control
Unmatched device support
Ability to self publish
Easy firmware and software updates
Cloud backup
"local control applied to only a small number of devices and SmartThings automations. Unmatched device support only worked if you worked with the developer console to add drivers and apps but it did bring in self publishing.
Easy firmware and software was debatable. If it was firmware embedded devices sure but all the custom device codes always had the risk of failing after a firmware update. And the consumer had no control when updates were pushed.
As for cloud backup, never came to life, if you have a SmartThings device there was no easy way to restore to a replacement hub device.
The strain of all these custom device drivers and apps was showing it age 2 years ago with all the outages of services and Samsung was scrambling to add infrastructure and at the same time working on reducing the cost of the infrastructure with their new development platform that very few were adopting. The only way to force the switch was the set a date of shutdown so at least some key device makers could make the switch. Independents will suffer in their new model since they will now have to stand up services to drive the platform and make it impossible to disconnect from the cloud."
I'm so glad I left them, just a couple devices left to move over.
Remember the promises:
>>someone else said it better than me<<
Local Control
Unmatched device support
Ability to self publish
Easy firmware and software updates
Cloud backup
"local control applied to only a small number of devices and SmartThings automations. Unmatched device support only worked if you worked with the developer console to add drivers and apps but it did bring in self publishing.
Easy firmware and software was debatable. If it was firmware embedded devices sure but all the custom device codes always had the risk of failing after a firmware update. And the consumer had no control when updates were pushed.
As for cloud backup, never came to life, if you have a SmartThings device there was no easy way to restore to a replacement hub device.
The strain of all these custom device drivers and apps was showing it age 2 years ago with all the outages of services and Samsung was scrambling to add infrastructure and at the same time working on reducing the cost of the infrastructure with their new development platform that very few were adopting. The only way to force the switch was the set a date of shutdown so at least some key device makers could make the switch. Independents will suffer in their new model since they will now have to stand up services to drive the platform and make it impossible to disconnect from the cloud."
Thank you for being the only on-topic response to the thread so far.
I saw the pricing and wanted to use two for things I either didn't want to use Wyze Cams or Nest Cams for. The great pricing for the functionality is what drove it home for me.
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2-way audio sounds robotic on Wyze. That's one reason my wife wants a mix of Wyze (I have many) and Nest/Samsung cams. These were a great deal for me, so just wanting to share the info with others.
EDIT: I love my Wyze products. This isn't a diss on their product, just a weakness of such a low cost, low margin device.