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Expires 10/31 for 100,000 Times Viewed # 1 Recommended GIGABIT ROUTER; $116 at Target TP-Link Archer AX3000 Dual Band WiFi 6 MU-MIMO Router

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Target price of $129 less the 10% coupon is $116. Coupon Expires 10/31

#1 Rated by the New York Times.
https://www.nytimes.com/wirecutte...fi-router/

You can get the AX3000 (Archer AX 50) for $116 at TARGET (see below)
https://www.target.com/p/tp-link-...A-79847621

HOW TO GET IT FOR $116 AT TARGET (2 WAYS)
New price is $129 and then apply the 10% off one electronic item (Target circle coupon). Total came to $116 and change. If you are a target Redcard member get additional 5% Redcard discount[/QUOTE]

10% coupon can be found here (Expires October 31):
https://slickdeals.net/?sdtid=14448551&sdop=1&sdpid=141342461&sdfid=30&lno=1&trd=https%20www%20target%20com%20offers%20targ&pv=&au=&sdtrk=SiteSearchV2Algo1&u2=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.target.com%2Foffers%2Ftarget-circle[/QUOTE]

At Walmart, you can get the $99 AX1800 (Archer AX 20) model. Note that "PeteyTheStriker" who is very knowledgeable on routers has commented extensively on this thread has recommended the upgrade from the AX20 to AX50 if you can afford it. Through Target (see above, you can get the AX 3000 for $116)

WALMART
$99 AX1800 (Archer AX 20)
https://www.walmart.com/ip/TP-Lin.../210201077

FOR ONLY $17 More (Target), you can upgrade from the Archer AX20 (AX1800) to the TP-LINK Archer AX50, i.e., AX 3000,
https://www.target.com/p/tp-link-...A-79847621

COMPARISON OF AX20 ($99) VS AX50 ($129) [ Thanks - zpeedster_m ]; Note that "PeteyTheStriker" who is very knowledgeable on routers has commented extensively on this thread has recommended the upgrade from the AX20 to AX50 if you can afford it.
https://www.nytimes.com/wirecutte...fi-router/

TP-Link Archer AX50
The best Wi-Fi router
In our tests the TP-Link Archer AX50 created a speedy, responsive network even from across a medium house. You have to spend a lot more on a router—or a mesh kit if you have a very large home—to get anything even a little better. It's our first WI-Fi 6 (802.11ax) router pick.

The TP-Link Archer AX50 is reasonably priced, yet it can handle a growing selection of laptops and smart devices while surpassing the performance of routers that cost twice as much. It's generally speedy and able to reach long range, it has little lag even when the network is busy, and it's a great choice if you have a high-performance internet service plan. It's compatible with Wi-Fi 6, the latest wireless standard, and it comes with built-in security in the form of a lifetime subscription to updates.

TP-Link Archer AX20
If our main pick is unavailable
The Archer AX20 offers fewer features than our pick for a slightly lower price, but in most cases it can keep up in throughput, responsiveness, and ease of setup.

If our pick is out of stock or its price is more than $30 higher, you should consider the TP-Link Archer AX20 instead. The AX20 looks like the AX50 and offers a strong, responsive network that's nearly as good, especially if your house isn't larger than our 2,300-square-foot-test home. But it's not quite as fast at longer ranges, and TP-Link sacrifices a few advanced features and settings in its administration interface to meet the lower price

REVIEWS (Thanks "PeteyTheStriker")
https://play3r.net/reviews/networ...er-review/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qXVGRKgaxYo

https://www.blacktubi.com/review/...cher-ax50/

https://techprojournal.com/tp-lin...ink_AX3000

Overall if you want a entry level to medium end router, you cant go wrong.[/QUOTE]

OTHER THINGS TO NOTE:

1. Donknows has a review on the AX3000 (Archer AX 50) this has thoroughly been discredited on this thread.

Quote from PeteyTheStriker :
As was mentioned by me and a few others, that DONGKNOWS review is poorly done. It is not an apples to apples comparison, he used a router with a brand new firmware comparing to an identical router with firmware over 6 months old which had major problems just like any other router around that time. It takes time to work out the bugs and TP-Link, Netgear, Asus to name a few all put out routers with bugged performance with their first set of Wifi 6 routers. So yeah..... Important to make apples to apples instead of reading something without understanding the testing. If he did it the correct way he would have had both side by side on the same firmware.The routers are identical outside USB 3.0 port and Homecare included on one, so you will get identical performance results with the same firmware.

2. CAT7, a CAT 6 or CAT5e cable is needed for gigabit Ethernet. Most cables made for the last 10 years are already 5e, so just saying that cables are usually never a bottleneck.
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Target price of $129 less the 10% coupon is $116. Coupon Expires 10/31

#1 Rated by the New York Times.
https://www.nytimes.com/wirecutte...fi-router/

You can get the AX3000 (Archer AX 50) for $116 at TARGET (see below)
https://www.target.com/p/tp-link-...A-79847621

HOW TO GET IT FOR $116 AT TARGET (2 WAYS)
New price is $129 and then apply the 10% off one electronic item (Target circle coupon). Total came to $116 and change. If you are a target Redcard member get additional 5% Redcard discount[/QUOTE]

10% coupon can be found here (Expires October 31):
https://slickdeals.net/?sdtid=14448551&sdop=1&sdpid=141342461&sdfid=30&lno=1&trd=https%20www%20target%20com%20offers%20targ&pv=&au=&sdtrk=SiteSearchV2Algo1&u2=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.target.com%2Foffers%2Ftarget-circle[/QUOTE]

At Walmart, you can get the $99 AX1800 (Archer AX 20) model. Note that "PeteyTheStriker" who is very knowledgeable on routers has commented extensively on this thread has recommended the upgrade from the AX20 to AX50 if you can afford it. Through Target (see above, you can get the AX 3000 for $116)

WALMART
$99 AX1800 (Archer AX 20)
https://www.walmart.com/ip/TP-Lin.../210201077

FOR ONLY $17 More (Target), you can upgrade from the Archer AX20 (AX1800) to the TP-LINK Archer AX50, i.e., AX 3000,
https://www.target.com/p/tp-link-...A-79847621

COMPARISON OF AX20 ($99) VS AX50 ($129) [ Thanks - zpeedster_m ]; Note that "PeteyTheStriker" who is very knowledgeable on routers has commented extensively on this thread has recommended the upgrade from the AX20 to AX50 if you can afford it.
https://www.nytimes.com/wirecutte...fi-router/

TP-Link Archer AX50
The best Wi-Fi router
In our tests the TP-Link Archer AX50 created a speedy, responsive network even from across a medium house. You have to spend a lot more on a router—or a mesh kit if you have a very large home—to get anything even a little better. It's our first WI-Fi 6 (802.11ax) router pick.

The TP-Link Archer AX50 is reasonably priced, yet it can handle a growing selection of laptops and smart devices while surpassing the performance of routers that cost twice as much. It's generally speedy and able to reach long range, it has little lag even when the network is busy, and it's a great choice if you have a high-performance internet service plan. It's compatible with Wi-Fi 6, the latest wireless standard, and it comes with built-in security in the form of a lifetime subscription to updates.

TP-Link Archer AX20
If our main pick is unavailable
The Archer AX20 offers fewer features than our pick for a slightly lower price, but in most cases it can keep up in throughput, responsiveness, and ease of setup.

If our pick is out of stock or its price is more than $30 higher, you should consider the TP-Link Archer AX20 instead. The AX20 looks like the AX50 and offers a strong, responsive network that's nearly as good, especially if your house isn't larger than our 2,300-square-foot-test home. But it's not quite as fast at longer ranges, and TP-Link sacrifices a few advanced features and settings in its administration interface to meet the lower price

REVIEWS (Thanks "PeteyTheStriker")
https://play3r.net/reviews/networ...er-review/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qXVGRKgaxYo

https://www.blacktubi.com/review/...cher-ax50/

https://techprojournal.com/tp-lin...ink_AX3000

Overall if you want a entry level to medium end router, you cant go wrong.[/QUOTE]

OTHER THINGS TO NOTE:

1. Donknows has a review on the AX3000 (Archer AX 50) this has thoroughly been discredited on this thread.

Quote from PeteyTheStriker :
As was mentioned by me and a few others, that DONGKNOWS review is poorly done. It is not an apples to apples comparison, he used a router with a brand new firmware comparing to an identical router with firmware over 6 months old which had major problems just like any other router around that time. It takes time to work out the bugs and TP-Link, Netgear, Asus to name a few all put out routers with bugged performance with their first set of Wifi 6 routers. So yeah..... Important to make apples to apples instead of reading something without understanding the testing. If he did it the correct way he would have had both side by side on the same firmware.The routers are identical outside USB 3.0 port and Homecare included on one, so you will get identical performance results with the same firmware.

2. CAT7, a CAT 6 or CAT5e cable is needed for gigabit Ethernet. Most cables made for the last 10 years are already 5e, so just saying that cables are usually never a bottleneck.

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Quote from JoyTan :
I assume this means if you want to return it to a store. What's Walmart policy on returns online. Do they eat the return shipping cost? Do they have drop off points at UPS like Amazon does? Thanks.
Not sure. I've only returned via store. You print out a return barcode and they scan it. Pretty straight forward and less of a hassle than Amazon.

-My returns with Amazon had to be solved with a CS rep last time as It took over a month to refund me... Wasn't happy.

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I decided to go with the AX3200 from Costco, as an upgrade from my Nighthawk ac1900. I hooked it up last night and my speeds increased substantially on my 3rd floor from 7mbps to 200+mbps.
Nice. Did you try out the AX3000 too? Hows performance on the other radio in comparison?
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Guess I am screwed. Contracted speed is 175 Mbps. Fast.com, using my phone over wifi is showing 100 Mbps. Currently have a Netgear 1750
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Quote from PhantasmX :
Guess I am screwed. Contracted speed is 175 Mbps. Fast.com, using my phone over wifi is showing 100 Mbps. Currently have a Netgear 1750
Nope. 100mbps is good but could be better. try out the speed at different locations in your house. Remember, you only need 40mbps to get 4K on TV/Netflix so 100 mbps is overkill to begin with.
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Quote from goatee87 :

I would hold out for a triband, which IMO is a real upgrade if you're using AIMESH. AIMESH on dualband is okay, but not great. YMMV if you're able to hardwire the nodes.
What is AIMESH?
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Quote from code65536 :
That 1300Mbps requires a 3-stream client. Your nominal link speed is only 867 with a 2-stream client.

Your "1900" router gets that speed via 3x 11n streams in the 2.4GHz band at 200Mbps each (which, BTW, is operating outside of the 11n spec; 11n should only be 150Mbps per stream, and realistically, most devices will not support that mode of operation, so it's really only 150... but 200 is a bigger number and marketing loves that) and 3x 11ac streams in the 5GHz band at 433 Mbps each.

So that comes out to 3x200 + 3x433 = 1900!

This AX router is 2-stream. So you're getting 2x 11ax streams in the 2.4GHz band at 287Mbps each and 2x 11ax streams in the 5GHz band at 600Mbps each.

And that comes out to 2x287 + 2x600 = 1774, which marketing rounds up to 1800.


Ah, but here's the catch: 3-stream client devices do not exist. The last time 3-stream radios were found in consumer products was back in the 2000's with WiFi 4 (11n). With WiFi 5 (11ac) and WiFi 6 (11ax), there is literally no consumer product that can actually connect to a router using 3 or more streams. So while your "1900" router could in theory connect to a 3-stream device at 1300Mbps, it never will, because such a device just does not exist. In practice, your 1900 router operates at 867Mbps in the 5GHz band.
Good info.
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Quote from DealSeeker343 :
Wait for Wifi 6E routers that are coming out at the end of the year or early next year, 6Ghz is going to have a lot less spectrum competition than 5Ghz. Current Wifi6 routers offer very little improvement to good AC routers that supports DFS channels.

Also, not that it matters to this particular router, but applies to Wifi in general, keep in mind most mobile client devices are limited to 2x2 anyhow due to battery considerations, so anything advertised above 1200mbps is only for client devices that actually supports a 3x3 or 4x4 MIMO configuration, which is pretty rare.
https://www.duckware.com/tech/wif...wifispeeds
Hello, how many devices currently have 6E? You are unlikely to see the kind of widespread usage needed for 6E for at least 3 years. Do you buy textbooks NOW for your children that are 3 grades up?
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Anyone got recommendation for me..
I am using rbr20 from Netgear probay the worst router ever used.
I have small home two floors around 2000 sqft total with total of 25 device including majority iot.

I prefer Costco ( or Sam's club) so that I can take benefit of their return policy ( just in case I don't like)

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Quote from PeteyTheStriker :
Disappointing that the TP-Link for almost the same price offers 160 while this ASUS RT-AX55 AX1800 only does only 80 ,so this is a pass for me for now.

Might still get one for AiMesh to use it with my RT-AC5300 to play with. Decisions decisions....
What TP-Link are you referring to? The AX20 or AX 50 or both AX20 and AX50?
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the walmart one is not a tplink ax50. the ax50 has usb3.0 port which is blue. https://www.tp-link.com/us/home-n...cher-ax50/

this is the walmart tplink ax3000 https://www.tp-link.com/us/home-networking/wifi-router/archer-ax3000/
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Somebody in the thread mentioned a setting so your devices keep their IP instead of grabbing a new one all the time. Can anyone point me in the right direction I cant seem to find the comment
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Quote from JoyTan :
Hello, how many devices currently have 6E? You are unlikely to see the kind of widespread usage needed for 6E for at least 3 years. Do you buy textbooks NOW for your children that are 3 grades up?
There's not many 5G AX clients either to be fair. Buying current AX HW has the same kinda issue lol

I think a 4x4 AC router is a better investment for people looking for consistent long range ~400-500 mbps performance (depends on device).. That or mesh with 4x4 backhaul... Smilie


Edit: Intel will release a 6E client after December
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Quote from Qualcomm :
You can get a Xiaomi AX3600 for $100 on aliexpress or a Huawei AX3 Pro for less than $70.
Does anyone from the US buy or trust these Chinese sites for buying stuff?
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My least favorite retailer is NewEgg.
Could you elaborate?

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Is MU-MIMO automatically turned on in an AX router? If not, where does one see the option to turn it on or off?

Thanks.

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