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Expires 10/31 for 100,000 Times Viewed # 1 Recommended GIGABIT ROUTER; $116 at Target TP-Link Archer AX3000 Dual Band WiFi 6 MU-MIMO Router

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Target price of $129 less the 10% coupon is $116. Coupon Expires 10/31

#1 Rated by the New York Times.
https://www.nytimes.com/wirecutte...fi-router/

You can get the AX3000 (Archer AX 50) for $116 at TARGET (see below)
https://www.target.com/p/tp-link-...A-79847621

HOW TO GET IT FOR $116 AT TARGET (2 WAYS)
New price is $129 and then apply the 10% off one electronic item (Target circle coupon). Total came to $116 and change. If you are a target Redcard member get additional 5% Redcard discount[/QUOTE]

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At Walmart, you can get the $99 AX1800 (Archer AX 20) model. Note that "PeteyTheStriker" who is very knowledgeable on routers has commented extensively on this thread has recommended the upgrade from the AX20 to AX50 if you can afford it. Through Target (see above, you can get the AX 3000 for $116)

WALMART
$99 AX1800 (Archer AX 20)
https://www.walmart.com/ip/TP-Lin.../210201077

FOR ONLY $17 More (Target), you can upgrade from the Archer AX20 (AX1800) to the TP-LINK Archer AX50, i.e., AX 3000,
https://www.target.com/p/tp-link-...A-79847621

COMPARISON OF AX20 ($99) VS AX50 ($129) [ Thanks - zpeedster_m ]; Note that "PeteyTheStriker" who is very knowledgeable on routers has commented extensively on this thread has recommended the upgrade from the AX20 to AX50 if you can afford it.
https://www.nytimes.com/wirecutte...fi-router/

TP-Link Archer AX50
The best Wi-Fi router
In our tests the TP-Link Archer AX50 created a speedy, responsive network even from across a medium house. You have to spend a lot more on a router—or a mesh kit if you have a very large home—to get anything even a little better. It's our first WI-Fi 6 (802.11ax) router pick.

The TP-Link Archer AX50 is reasonably priced, yet it can handle a growing selection of laptops and smart devices while surpassing the performance of routers that cost twice as much. It's generally speedy and able to reach long range, it has little lag even when the network is busy, and it's a great choice if you have a high-performance internet service plan. It's compatible with Wi-Fi 6, the latest wireless standard, and it comes with built-in security in the form of a lifetime subscription to updates.

TP-Link Archer AX20
If our main pick is unavailable
The Archer AX20 offers fewer features than our pick for a slightly lower price, but in most cases it can keep up in throughput, responsiveness, and ease of setup.

If our pick is out of stock or its price is more than $30 higher, you should consider the TP-Link Archer AX20 instead. The AX20 looks like the AX50 and offers a strong, responsive network that's nearly as good, especially if your house isn't larger than our 2,300-square-foot-test home. But it's not quite as fast at longer ranges, and TP-Link sacrifices a few advanced features and settings in its administration interface to meet the lower price

REVIEWS (Thanks "PeteyTheStriker")
https://play3r.net/reviews/networ...er-review/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qXVGRKgaxYo

https://www.blacktubi.com/review/...cher-ax50/

https://techprojournal.com/tp-lin...ink_AX3000

Overall if you want a entry level to medium end router, you cant go wrong.[/QUOTE]

OTHER THINGS TO NOTE:

1. Donknows has a review on the AX3000 (Archer AX 50) this has thoroughly been discredited on this thread.

Quote from PeteyTheStriker :
As was mentioned by me and a few others, that DONGKNOWS review is poorly done. It is not an apples to apples comparison, he used a router with a brand new firmware comparing to an identical router with firmware over 6 months old which had major problems just like any other router around that time. It takes time to work out the bugs and TP-Link, Netgear, Asus to name a few all put out routers with bugged performance with their first set of Wifi 6 routers. So yeah..... Important to make apples to apples instead of reading something without understanding the testing. If he did it the correct way he would have had both side by side on the same firmware.The routers are identical outside USB 3.0 port and Homecare included on one, so you will get identical performance results with the same firmware.

2. CAT7, a CAT 6 or CAT5e cable is needed for gigabit Ethernet. Most cables made for the last 10 years are already 5e, so just saying that cables are usually never a bottleneck.
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10-25-2020 at 07:07 PM.
10-25-2020 at 07:07 PM.
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Looks like Target has dropped the AX3000 down to $129, so now there is no need to price match Wal-Mart.
Excellent. I upgraded the OP and subject line accordingly. Thanks!
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I'm in a smaller 1400sft two storey house, with 40+ smart devices and 4 to 6 phones/tables/pc/tv in use at a time. I have 100mbps Comcast (4k streaming is my best use case, didn't see a point going higher than 100). My son plays fortnite on PC, so a faster ping is imp for him. Current router is T-mo AC1900.

Adjusting for resale price of ac1900, I'm spending only $50 to upgrade to this. Worth it?
First, you need to test the speed of your existing connection:

1. What is the speed of your internet connection when your modem is directly connected to the computer WITHOUT the router? [I assume the computer is connected to the modem with an ethernet cable].

2). What is the speed of your internet connection when your modem is connected to the router, and then the router is connected to the computer? [I assume the computer is connected to the router with an ethernet cable].

3.) What is the speed of your devices connected to the router over wifi?

To test the speed, when you open a web page go to fast.com and it will test the speed in 15 seconds.

Report the results and this will help us guide you.
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10-25-2020 at 07:21 PM.
10-25-2020 at 07:21 PM.
I bought this at Target and i am using it with ATT fiber gigabit connection.
Here are my thoughts so far
- speed are marginally better on some devices compared to Asus RT87U
So the 5Ghz connected devices are getting slight benefit from using wifi6 router

-signal power and range have actually reduce, so at times in some corners on 3 story townhome ..i see 5ghz coming andgoing

- absolute worst performance on LAN..capped at 100 mbps..tried all tricks from books/forums nothing seems to fix it.
Please help if someone knows

- upload speed is generally 1/3rd of allocated even at router levelfrom ATT. Stock router is getting proper.

- the general max have gone from 250-300mbps max to 400-450mbps max
But still nowhere to see700-900mbps on wifi even next to router.


Some recommended settings-

Try switching channel and/or bandwidth of channel (80/160) on 5Ghz to get best optimal output

Lan output is available in basic settings under network

Under advanced mode > sys tools > sys parameters ..set LAN exchange to 1000mbps full duplex or based off ur speed instead of auto negotiation

Don't use Tether app, use webUI to configure. If possible facory reset/hard reset before beginning setup.

For ATT - to avoid slower ping/faster load on websites..change dns to use 1.1.1.1 or 8.8.8.8/8.8.4.4 instead of defauly one


If LAN issue is not resolved then i will be returning this router
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10-25-2020 at 07:33 PM.
10-25-2020 at 07:33 PM.
Quote from aapkaapnaanuj :
LAN..capped at 100 mbps..tried all tricks from books/forums nothing seems to fix it.
Please help if someone knows
With LAN connection, I assume you mean accessing the internet via a network cable on the router as opposed to a wifi connection. For me, I get 100% of the bandwidth that I get from Spectrum..............I am contracted to get 200mbps but Specturm gives a bit more.... approx. 230mbps and I get the full 230 mbps through the wired router connection. If I can get the full contracted speed with the Archer AX 20 (i.e., AX1800), you certainly should get it with the higher Archer AX50 (AX3000) model. Note that I did not change the configuration defaults.

Separately, I agree that one shouldn't use the TP_LINK Tether app. Instead connect all the cables and turn everything on. When you go to the internet, it will automatically load the TP-LINK configurator on your web page (I used the default and only changed the SSID/router display name and wifi password)
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Quote from aapkaapnaanuj :
LAN..capped at 100 mbps..tried all tricks from books/forums nothing seems to fix it.
Please help if someone knows
Is you cable CAT 5e or higher? CAT 5 cable restricts the speed to 100 mbps.
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LAN..capped at 100 mbps..tried all tricks from books/forums nothing seems to fix it.
Please help if someone knows
Why don't you restore the router to factory setting and try again without fiddling around. Once you get the desired speed that you can start tweaking.
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Quote from aapkaapnaanuj :

Try switching channel and/or bandwidth of channel (80/160) on 5Ghz to get best optimal output
First, thanks for the feedback on your experience with the router.

What is the default on 5GHZ? Are you suggesting that one change the default to 80 or 160 or it it depicted together as 80/160?
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Quote from Justonelastdance :
https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1559011-REG/tp_link_archer_ax50r_archer_ax50_ax3000_wireless.html/
A) This one at B&H is refurbished
B) Remove session identifier from the link you posted like I did. You do not know when they time out your session and you do not need someone getting into your account

After red card, Circle, and birthday 10% off it came to $100 at Target.
Thanks, OP.
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10-25-2020 at 08:55 PM.
10-25-2020 at 08:55 PM.
Quote from aapkaapnaanuj :
I bought this at Target and i am using it with ATT fiber gigabit connection.
Here are my thoughts so far
- speed are marginally better on some devices compared to Asus RT87U
So the 5Ghz connected devices are getting slight benefit from using wifi6 router

-signal power and range have actually reduce, so at times in some corners on 3 story townhome ..i see 5ghz coming andgoing

- absolute worst performance on LAN..capped at 100 mbps..tried all tricks from books/forums nothing seems to fix it.
Please help if someone knows

- upload speed is generally 1/3rd of allocated even at router levelfrom ATT. Stock router is getting proper.

- the general max have gone from 250-300mbps max to 400-450mbps max
But still nowhere to see700-900mbps on wifi even next to router.


Some recommended settings-

Try switching channel and/or bandwidth of channel (80/160) on 5Ghz to get best optimal output

Lan output is available in basic settings under network

Under advanced mode > sys tools > sys parameters ..set LAN exchange to 1000mbps full duplex or based off ur speed instead of auto negotiation

Don't use Tether app, use webUI to configure. If possible facory reset/hard reset before beginning setup.

For ATT - to avoid slower ping/faster load on websites..change dns to use 1.1.1.1 or 8.8.8.8/8.8.4.4 instead of defauly one


If LAN issue is not resolved then i will be returning this router
It's a lower end device. Both the AX1800 and AX3000 are in the same category when it comes to connectivity with legacy AC clients.

The AX3000 class router is only useful if you have an intel AX 200/201 client and can take advantage of 160mhz bandwidth via lower wifi channel blocks, though these tend to be saturated and the speeds are extremely hit or miss depending on where you live. 1024 QAM requires relatively close distance anyway defeating the purpose in most situations.

Your RT-AC87U has the first 4x4 Quantenna MU-MIMO radio, though not as optimized as modern AC/AX devices when it comes to max throughput, hence lower speed. 30+ feet testing should favor your older AC router in most environments.

80mhz channel output should help increase range over 160mhz. You're correct.

Not exactly sure why you aren't seeing higher speeds closer to the router unless you're on a weaker AC client that cant exactly push throughput.

If youre using an AX client, I'm not exactly sure whats going on. I would return in that case given multiple issues.
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10-25-2020 at 11:04 PM.
10-25-2020 at 11:04 PM.
Quote from JoyTan :
First, you need to test the speed of your existing connection:

1. What is the speed of your internet connection when your modem is directly connected to the computer WITHOUT the router? [I assume the computer is connected to the modem with an ethernet cable].

2). What is the speed of your internet connection when your modem is connected to the router, and then the router is connected to the computer? [I assume the computer is connected to the router with an ethernet cable].

3.) What is the speed of your devices connected to the router over wifi?

To test the speed, when you open a web page go to fast.com and it will test the speed in 15 seconds.

Report the results and this w (he's in WiFi, will upgrade to AX WiFi card) ill help us guide you.

To clarify, I already know that I'm getting very good speeds. 84-90mbps almost all places that I need to use it. Only two things I wanted to validate specifically.
One, will moving to ax3000 help reduce ping for my son's PC? He's connected via WiFi, will upgrade to AX WiFi adaptor.
Two, are there any limitations that Asus ac1900 is imposing on my smart devices that I'm not aware of? In reality, all my smart devices and basic routines work perfectly.
Three, I like to be ahead of gadgets curve if it comes at a reasonable cost.

Answering your questions, I'm realizing that I'm basically trying to invent reasons to upgrade.
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10-26-2020 at 06:48 AM.
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Target 10% off coupon for the item in this thread expires 10/31.
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10-26-2020 at 12:45 PM.
Quote from maxxgraphix :
Ubiquity is a commercial product. Wonderful features and rock solid reliability. With NetGear you get weekly reboots, crashes, spotty WiFi, void of any real features, slow performance and it dies after 1 year completely into nothing but a plastic brick from China.

If you don't mind spending $100 on cheap crap from China that only sorta works once in a while, buy NetGear. If you want to set it and forget it. Buy Ubiquity or Mikrotik.

With Ubiquity and Mikrotik you only upgrade for new tech since it just keeps running. I have Mikrotik routers still running after 12 years. Damn things just won't die. Sucks for me because that means my customer doesn't have to spend money.
How does TP Link compare to Netgear?
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I have a bunch of TP link wifi plugs
What is the function of these plugs. I mean, what do they do and how to use them?
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Wife moving out so she needs a wifi router. I have a TP-Link OnHub 1900 (TGR1900) that has been working good so was going to get another one (~$20) as Cox internet is bottleneck here. Should I just do that? Im not sure any advantage of getting this unless it would cover my yard better but still not really been an issue.
Thanks.
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