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expiredTheHun posted Oct 21, 2020 02:10 PM
expiredTheHun posted Oct 21, 2020 02:10 PM

70" Onn Class 4K UHD HDR Roku Smart LED TV $298, 43" Onn Class 4K UHD LED TV $88 + Free S/H

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Walmart is offering one day deal starting 10/22 at 7PM ET on ONN 4K ROKU TV's starting at $88. While supplies last. Available in select locations only. Online-only offer valid for onn. 70' Class 4K UHD (2160P) LED Roku Smart TV HDR (100012588) & onn. 43' Class 4K UHD (2160P) LED Roku Smart TV HDR (100012584).

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Walmart is offering one day deal starting 10/22 at 7PM ET on ONN 4K ROKU TV's starting at $88. While supplies last. Available in select locations only. Online-only offer valid for onn. 70' Class 4K UHD (2160P) LED Roku Smart TV HDR (100012588) & onn. 43' Class 4K UHD (2160P) LED Roku Smart TV HDR (100012584).

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Oct 21, 2020 05:25 PM
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jacureOct 21, 2020 05:25 PM
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Quote from jull :
tempting though i already have so many tvs. where am i going to put it if i buy it. can't resist cheap price.
Throw the old ones away. That's what I'm doing with mine
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Oct 21, 2020 05:25 PM
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thedealsman440Oct 21, 2020 05:25 PM
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Honestly I want to say a big F you to Walmart for making me have 10 TV's in the house now!
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Oct 21, 2020 05:27 PM
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GeburtenfresserOct 21, 2020 05:27 PM
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Quote from TheHun :
it has hdmi 2.but I could not see chroma 444.Owner manual link below

https://media3.webcollage.net/f9c...sQFWOQg%3D [webcollage.net]
That seems to be a generic Roku TV manual though?
Oct 21, 2020 05:28 PM
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tlzeroOct 21, 2020 05:28 PM
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43 foot TV would be wild.
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Oct 21, 2020 05:31 PM
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TheHun
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Oct 21, 2020 05:31 PM
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Quote from Geburtenfresser :
That seems to be a generic Roku TV manual though?
These are actually shown on walmart product page. Scroll down for manuals and guides links. It has specs, quick start guide and user manual links.
Oct 21, 2020 05:32 PM
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xtpOct 21, 2020 05:32 PM
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Quote from Geburtenfresser :
Just worried about how text looks. It's nothing like the compressed chroma thing then, is it?
No, it's a spatial dithering algorithm layed ontop of the 444 information it processes.

So for high contrast edges/fonts, they will not look fuzzy, because the font vs the nearest color will be outside of the dithering threshold.

It is not compressing the chroma, it is pixel binning to even the tone across the panel.
Oct 21, 2020 05:32 PM
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gotoknowOct 21, 2020 05:32 PM
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Quote from TheHun :
it has hdmi 2.but I could not see chroma 444.Owner manual link below
https://media3.webcollage.net/f9c...sQFWOQg%3D [webcollage.net]

Thanks for that.
It does appear to have a 'game' mode, which may help in the lag time, which I've heard the 50" of this model may have about 30+ ms. With 2.0, there's a chance it'll have 4:4:4

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Oct 21, 2020 05:39 PM
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xtpOct 21, 2020 05:39 PM
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Quote from gotoknow :
https://media3.webcollage.net/f9c...sQFWOQg%3D [webcollage.net]

Thanks for that.
It does appear to have a 'game' mode, which may help in the lag time, which I've heard the 50" of this model may have about 30+ ms. With 2.0, there's a chance it'll have 4:4:4

GDI guys, ALL ROKU PLATFORM TVS process 444 chroma.

Most sets however use spatial dithering, which on many models can't be disabled. So YES it's still 444, but it's not 1:1 pixel accurate due to the spatial dithering.

On the latest TCL models, there's an option to disable it and get the 1:1. This hasn't been true on older models.

Don't know whether this ONN made by hisense will have the option.

THAT SAID, you don't want to turn the spatial dithering off. 1:1 pixel accuracy is not important vs better contrast uniformity. Contrast uniformity makes it look nicer.

444 is just parroted by the idiotic gamer master race who honestly have no comprehension of the impact of chroma on the overall image.
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Oct 21, 2020 05:41 PM
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cruxionOct 21, 2020 05:41 PM
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Quote from LucyRubyLakeland :
I'm gonna buy one for my raspberry pi smart mirror. That's going to be so cool
Not sure why you're being downvoted since a cheap 43" tv would be great for that application.
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Oct 21, 2020 05:43 PM
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cruxionOct 21, 2020 05:43 PM
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Quote from xtp :
GDI guys, ALL ROKU PLATFORM TVS process 444 chroma.

Most sets however use spatial dithering, which on many models can't be disabled. So YES it's still 444, but it's not 1:1 pixel accurate due to the spatial dithering.

On the latest TCL models, there's an option to disable it and get the 1:1. This hasn't been true on older models.

Don't know whether this ONN made by hisense will have the option.

THAT SAID, you don't want to turn the spatial dithering off. 1:1 pixel accuracy is not important vs better contrast uniformity. Contrast uniformity makes it look nicer.

444 is just parroted by the idiotic gamer master race who honestly have no comprehension of the impact of chroma on the overall image.
If you're planning to use it as a monitor, I assume turning spatial dithering off would be good, no?
Oct 21, 2020 05:44 PM
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StormGod1Oct 21, 2020 05:44 PM
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Quote from CrazyHorse :
I bought a Westinghouse 50" 4k last year for like 160 and the sound on that TV is utter trash. I wonder how well these Walmart Onn TV's are.
even on a high end tv, sound is not great, but you're not buying a tv for sound, you're buying it for picture. second , its low end , so to even expect a quality picture is absurd. let alone great sound sound quality
Oct 21, 2020 05:45 PM
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cruxionOct 21, 2020 05:45 PM
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Quote from xtp :
I'm like 100% certain this will be a trashy tv, w/ terrible uniformity. but u know, it's like the ugly chix with big o' t, well you know..

LOLOL... I bet that's what everyone's thinking. That said.. I've personally vowed never to buy anything without wide gamut. It's just so much better.
Things that cost more are generally better quality? Thanks for you're amazing insight.
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Oct 21, 2020 05:45 PM
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daftandeOct 21, 2020 05:45 PM
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Great deal!
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zooropeanOct 21, 2020 05:45 PM
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CNN called..they need you reporting more fake news.
You spelled Fox News incorrectly.
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Oct 21, 2020 05:46 PM
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xtpOct 21, 2020 05:46 PM
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Quote from cruxion :
If you're planning to use it as a monitor, I assume turning spatial dithering off would be good, no?
no it wouldn't. you would think that, but it's not true. Spatial dithering = GOOD.

This is the case for VA-panels, because very large panels will appear to have alot more contrast drift as you get out towards the left and right edges.

It looks like a better overall image with even contrast than 1:1 pixel mapping.

Think of it this way, You CAN"T SEE the dithering algorithm at a normal viewing distance. But YOU CAN SEE the contrast drift.

What is better, fixing a visual artifact you can't see, or one that you can.


Of course the solution to both is OLED. Problem with oled is burnin because PC/games have too many static elements.

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