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Lenovo Yoga 9i 2-in-1 Touch Laptop: i7-1185G7,14" 1080p, 16GB RAM, 512GB SSD

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Best Buy has Lenovo Yoga 9i 14" 2-In One Touchscreen Laptop (82BG000CUS) for $1079.99. Shipping is free or choose curbside pickup where available.

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Specs:
  • Intel 11th Gen Evo i7-1185G7 4.80 GHz 4C/8T
  • 14" 1920x1080 IPS Touchscreen Display
  • 16GB DDR4 4266 Memory
  • 512GB M.2 2280 PCIe 3.0x4 NVMe SSD
  • Integrated Intel Iris Xe Graphics
  • WiFi 6 - 802.11 ax
  • Active Pen
  • Backlit Keyboard
  • Amazon Alexa
  • Windows 10 Home
  • Inputs
    • 1x USB 3.2 Type A
    • 2x Thunderbolt
  • 4-Cell Lithium-ion Battery (Up to 15 Hours)
  • Weight 2.97 lbs

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Written by powerfuldoppler | Staff
  • 1 year Manufacturer's Warranty
  • Holiday purchases between Oct 13 and Jan 2, returns and exchanges will be accepted through Jan 16.

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Best Buy has Lenovo Yoga 9i 14" 2-In One Touchscreen Laptop (82BG000CUS) for $1079.99. Shipping is free or choose curbside pickup where available.

Thanks to community member MagentaPenguin2480 for finding this deal.

Note, curbside pickup may vary by location.

Specs:
  • Intel 11th Gen Evo i7-1185G7 4.80 GHz 4C/8T
  • 14" 1920x1080 IPS Touchscreen Display
  • 16GB DDR4 4266 Memory
  • 512GB M.2 2280 PCIe 3.0x4 NVMe SSD
  • Integrated Intel Iris Xe Graphics
  • WiFi 6 - 802.11 ax
  • Active Pen
  • Backlit Keyboard
  • Amazon Alexa
  • Windows 10 Home
  • Inputs
    • 1x USB 3.2 Type A
    • 2x Thunderbolt
  • 4-Cell Lithium-ion Battery (Up to 15 Hours)
  • Weight 2.97 lbs

Editor's Notes

Written by powerfuldoppler | Staff
  • 1 year Manufacturer's Warranty
  • Holiday purchases between Oct 13 and Jan 2, returns and exchanges will be accepted through Jan 16.

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Solandri
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This was just reviewed by Notebookcheck (albeit different processor, memory, and storage options). No screen flicker due to PWM. I suppose it might flicker if there's a manufacturing flaw.

https://www.notebookcheck.net/Len...263.0.html

Interestingly, the 11th gen i5 outperforms the single 11th gen i7 laptop they've reviewed, suggesting that heat management is crucial (the i5 and i7 are identical - both 4 core w/ hyperthreading; differences are base clock speed, L3 cache size, and power ceiling). It matches and beats the 10th gen i7, and appears to be competitive with the Ryzen 5 4500U (6 core). Assuming Lenovo managed the thermals properly, the 11th gen i7 probably scores just above the 4500U. The 4700U is a 8-core so should beat this handily.

It's manufactured on Intel's 10nm process, which at 100 million transistors/mm^2 is slightly smaller than TSMC's 7nm (used by AMD) at 96 MT/mm^2. So it's about as close to an apples-to-apples comparison we're going to get between the two architectures. (Apple bought up all of TSMC's 5nm production capacity for it's A14 and M1 processors. That's 173 MT/mm^2, so has a huge advantage over 7nm and Intel 10nm, which is why the M1 does so well. Not something special about Apple's architecture.)

GPU benchmark scores put the new integrated graphics about on par with the MX350, beating AMD's Vega 7 and 8. But the game benchmarks are all over the place due to immature drivers.

Overall, looks like a solid system, minus the lack of ports (1 USB-A, 2 USB-C w/ Thunderbolt and PD, 1 headphone, that's it) and the poor keyboard (I've tried it and it's like little plastic squares which depress slightly, not a real keyboard like you get with the Thinkpads). Note that there's no HDMI out, no SD or microSD slot. And the i7 is an AMD 4500U competitor, not a 4700U competitor. In that respect, even discounted this heavily it is probably still overpriced compared to a similar AMD laptop.
Solandri
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Like I explained, the M1 does so well primarily because it's being manufactured at 5nm vs 7nm for AMD (and 7nm-equivalent for Intel). It's got 1.7x the transistor density advantage, which means the same performance for less power, or more performance for the same power, or some combination of the two.

That advantage won't last forever. TSMC is going to build out more 5nm manufacturing capacity. At which point AMD (and Nvidia and Qualcomm and a bunch of other companies) will end up on the same level playing field as Apple. AMD's processors on 7nm already slightly outclass the M1 on 5nm while using fewer transistors (the M1 is 12 billion transistors, while the AMD 4700U is about 10 billion). So AMD on 5nm should handily beat Apple's offerings.

So unless you're already committed to Apple's app ecosystem, it'd be foolhardy to switch now. You'll just end up regretting it once AMD starts releasing 5nm processors. I wouldn't count Intel out of the game yet either. Their 7nm process (expected 2022) is about 200 million transistors/mm^2, which would leapfrog TSMC's 5nm (170 MT/mm^2). Until TSMC can push out 3nm (also currently expected for 2022, about 250-300 MT/mm^2). Even if TSMC beats Intel again, Intel could swallow its pride and buy out TSMC's 3nm manufacturing capacity for their own processors, stagnating Apple (and AMD) at 5nm. Intel is one of the few companies with a more obscene profit margin than Apple (~30% vs ~20%, vs 5%-10% for the rest of the industry), so they could easily afford to do this.
goibhniu
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The ARM architecture is also much more efficient than the x86 architecture, and that is the source of the bulk of their advantage, though they also have "accelerators" built into hardware for more common features as well, plus all of the neural cores. It's a dramatically different design from Intel and AMD, and it goes far beyond the manufacturing process.

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Dec 07, 2020 07:22 PM
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guest2011Dec 07, 2020 07:22 PM
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16gb soldered single channel, correct?
Dec 07, 2020 07:27 PM
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MemorableShape5437Dec 07, 2020 07:27 PM
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This is a good laptop for the said price here. I purchased this 3 weeks back for the full price and just tried to do a price match over bestbuy chat and got told I can't do it. Stupid bestbuy is getting a laptop as a return soon.
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Dec 07, 2020 07:30 PM
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guest2011Dec 07, 2020 07:30 PM
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Quote from MemorableShape5437 :
This is a good laptop for the said price here. I purchased this 3 weeks back for the full price and just tried to do a price match over bestbuy chat and got told I can't do it. Stupid bestbuy is getting a laptop as a return soon.

does bb charge restocking fee if you return?
Dec 07, 2020 07:34 PM
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MemorableShape5437Dec 07, 2020 07:34 PM
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Quote from guest2011 :
does bb charge restocking fee if you return?
No, they do not .
Dec 07, 2020 08:01 PM
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guest2011Dec 07, 2020 08:01 PM
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Quote from MemorableShape5437 :
No, they do not .

Don't even need a reason? 14 days?

Is AMD model coming soon?
Dec 07, 2020 08:10 PM
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NavyHeart2407Dec 07, 2020 08:10 PM
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Quote from guest2011 :
16gb soldered single channel, correct?
Soldered dual channel.
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Dec 07, 2020 08:11 PM
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genivDec 07, 2020 08:11 PM
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11th gen already? that was fast..

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Dec 07, 2020 08:21 PM
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GILTIDec 07, 2020 08:21 PM
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Quote from guest2011 :
Don't even need a reason? 14 days?

Is AMD model coming soon?
They don't require a reason. Anything purchased now is available to return until 1/16/2021. Outside of the holiday season it's a 14 day return policy.
Dec 07, 2020 08:21 PM
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skid007Dec 07, 2020 08:21 PM
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which is better? this or HP Envy/Spectra?

looks at this price config will almost the same.
Dec 07, 2020 08:26 PM
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athomas88Dec 07, 2020 08:26 PM
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Any screen flickering issues on these?
Dec 07, 2020 08:47 PM
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TuanT5074Dec 07, 2020 08:47 PM
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Quote from srikanthkm :
which is better? this or HP Envy/Spectra?

looks at this price config will almost the same.
Spectre in black is the best looking laptop I think.. if you get the 15", the RAM is upgradeable.
Dec 07, 2020 09:12 PM
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SolandriDec 07, 2020 09:12 PM
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Quote from athomas88 :
Any screen flickering issues on these?
This was just reviewed by Notebookcheck (albeit different processor, memory, and storage options). No screen flicker due to PWM. I suppose it might flicker if there's a manufacturing flaw.

https://www.notebookcheck.net/Len...263.0.html

Interestingly, the 11th gen i5 outperforms the single 11th gen i7 laptop they've reviewed, suggesting that heat management is crucial (the i5 and i7 are identical - both 4 core w/ hyperthreading; differences are base clock speed, L3 cache size, and power ceiling). It matches and beats the 10th gen i7, and appears to be competitive with the Ryzen 5 4500U (6 core). Assuming Lenovo managed the thermals properly, the 11th gen i7 probably scores just above the 4500U. The 4700U is a 8-core so should beat this handily.

It's manufactured on Intel's 10nm process, which at 100 million transistors/mm^2 is slightly smaller than TSMC's 7nm (used by AMD) at 96 MT/mm^2. So it's about as close to an apples-to-apples comparison we're going to get between the two architectures. (Apple bought up all of TSMC's 5nm production capacity for it's A14 and M1 processors. That's 173 MT/mm^2, so has a huge advantage over 7nm and Intel 10nm, which is why the M1 does so well. Not something special about Apple's architecture.)

GPU benchmark scores put the new integrated graphics about on par with the MX350, beating AMD's Vega 7 and 8. But the game benchmarks are all over the place due to immature drivers.

Overall, looks like a solid system, minus the lack of ports (1 USB-A, 2 USB-C w/ Thunderbolt and PD, 1 headphone, that's it) and the poor keyboard (I've tried it and it's like little plastic squares which depress slightly, not a real keyboard like you get with the Thinkpads). Note that there's no HDMI out, no SD or microSD slot. And the i7 is an AMD 4500U competitor, not a 4700U competitor. In that respect, even discounted this heavily it is probably still overpriced compared to a similar AMD laptop.
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Dec 07, 2020 11:38 PM
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texictDec 07, 2020 11:38 PM
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Quote from xanekka :
Why even bother with a Lenovo when you can get a M1 MacBook Air?
Unless you want to run windows without buying Parallels or something.

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ThriftyKestrel1633Dec 08, 2020 12:05 AM
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The Mica color is so light that keyboard key letters blend in and the key back lighting doesn't stand out. The dark color is fine but be warned about the Mica color. Also, if the price is better on the C940 it's basically the same aside from the 10 vs 11 gen cpu and given the fact the 11 gen throttlles so much on these small warm laptops killing the next gen gains.
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