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Lenovo Yoga 9i 2-in-1 Touch Laptop: i7-1185G7,14" 1080p, 16GB RAM, 512GB SSD

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Best Buy has Lenovo Yoga 9i 14" 2-In One Touchscreen Laptop (82BG000CUS) for $1079.99. Shipping is free or choose curbside pickup where available.

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Specs:
  • Intel 11th Gen Evo i7-1185G7 4.80 GHz 4C/8T
  • 14" 1920x1080 IPS Touchscreen Display
  • 16GB DDR4 4266 Memory
  • 512GB M.2 2280 PCIe 3.0x4 NVMe SSD
  • Integrated Intel Iris Xe Graphics
  • WiFi 6 - 802.11 ax
  • Active Pen
  • Backlit Keyboard
  • Amazon Alexa
  • Windows 10 Home
  • Inputs
    • 1x USB 3.2 Type A
    • 2x Thunderbolt
  • 4-Cell Lithium-ion Battery (Up to 15 Hours)
  • Weight 2.97 lbs

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  • 1 year Manufacturer's Warranty
  • Holiday purchases between Oct 13 and Jan 2, returns and exchanges will be accepted through Jan 16.

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Best Buy has Lenovo Yoga 9i 14" 2-In One Touchscreen Laptop (82BG000CUS) for $1079.99. Shipping is free or choose curbside pickup where available.

Thanks to community member MagentaPenguin2480 for finding this deal.

Note, curbside pickup may vary by location.

Specs:
  • Intel 11th Gen Evo i7-1185G7 4.80 GHz 4C/8T
  • 14" 1920x1080 IPS Touchscreen Display
  • 16GB DDR4 4266 Memory
  • 512GB M.2 2280 PCIe 3.0x4 NVMe SSD
  • Integrated Intel Iris Xe Graphics
  • WiFi 6 - 802.11 ax
  • Active Pen
  • Backlit Keyboard
  • Amazon Alexa
  • Windows 10 Home
  • Inputs
    • 1x USB 3.2 Type A
    • 2x Thunderbolt
  • 4-Cell Lithium-ion Battery (Up to 15 Hours)
  • Weight 2.97 lbs

Editor's Notes

Written by powerfuldoppler | Staff
  • 1 year Manufacturer's Warranty
  • Holiday purchases between Oct 13 and Jan 2, returns and exchanges will be accepted through Jan 16.

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Dec 8, 2020 4:14 AM
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SolandriDec 8, 2020 4:14 AM
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Quote from xanekka View quoted comment :
Why even bother with a Lenovo when you can get a M1 MacBook Air?
Like I explained, the M1 does so well primarily because it's being manufactured at 5nm vs 7nm for AMD (and 7nm-equivalent for Intel). It's got 1.7x the transistor density advantage, which means the same performance for less power, or more performance for the same power, or some combination of the two.

That advantage won't last forever. TSMC is going to build out more 5nm manufacturing capacity. At which point AMD (and Nvidia and Qualcomm and a bunch of other companies) will end up on the same level playing field as Apple. AMD's processors on 7nm already slightly outclass the M1 on 5nm while using fewer transistors (the M1 is 12 billion transistors, while the AMD 4700U is about 10 billion). So AMD on 5nm should handily beat Apple's offerings.

So unless you're already committed to Apple's app ecosystem, it'd be foolhardy to switch now. You'll just end up regretting it once AMD starts releasing 5nm processors. I wouldn't count Intel out of the game yet either. Their 7nm process (expected 2022) is about 200 million transistors/mm^2, which would leapfrog TSMC's 5nm (170 MT/mm^2). Until TSMC can push out 3nm (also currently expected for 2022, about 250-300 MT/mm^2). Even if TSMC beats Intel again, Intel could swallow its pride and buy out TSMC's 3nm manufacturing capacity for their own processors, stagnating Apple (and AMD) at 5nm. Intel is one of the few companies with a more obscene profit margin than Apple (~30% vs ~20%, vs 5%-10% for the rest of the industry), so they could easily afford to do this.
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Dec 8, 2020 11:54 AM
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RedmontDec 8, 2020 11:54 AM
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Quote from MemorableShape5437 View quoted comment :
This is a good laptop for the said price here. I purchased this 3 weeks back for the full price and just tried to do a price match over bestbuy chat and got told I can't do it. Stupid bestbuy is getting a laptop as a return soon.
This is a common problem with even the best sellers and it actually costs consumers money because a return hurts the seller more than the price match. These sellers need to give their customer service people — or at least supervisors —more latitude to use common sense . Until then all losses will just get passed on to the consumers.
Dec 8, 2020 12:39 PM
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xanekkaDec 8, 2020 12:39 PM
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Quote from Solandri View quoted comment :
Like I explained, the M1 does so well primarily because it's being manufactured at 5nm vs 7nm for AMD (and 7nm-equivalent for Intel). It's got 1.7x the transistor density advantage, which means the same performance for less power, or more performance for the same power, or some combination of the two.

That advantage won't last forever. TSMC is going to build out more 5nm manufacturing capacity. At which point AMD (and Nvidia and Qualcomm and a bunch of other companies) will end up on the same level playing field as Apple. AMD's processors on 7nm already slightly outclass the M1 on 5nm while using fewer transistors (the M1 is 12 billion transistors, while the AMD 4700U is about 10 billion). So AMD on 5nm should handily beat Apple's offerings.

So unless you're already committed to Apple's app ecosystem, it'd be foolhardy to switch now. You'll just end up regretting it once AMD starts releasing 5nm processors. I wouldn't count Intel out of the game yet either. Their 7nm process (expected 2022) is about 200 million transistors/mm^2, which would leapfrog TSMC's 5nm (170 MT/mm^2). Until TSMC can push out 3nm (also currently expected for 2022, about 250-300 MT/mm^2). Even if TSMC beats Intel again, Intel could swallow its pride and buy out TSMC's 3nm manufacturing capacity for their own processors, stagnating Apple (and AMD) at 5nm. Intel is one of the few companies with a more obscene profit margin than Apple (~30% vs ~20%, vs 5%-10% for the rest of the industry), so they could easily afford to do this.
The only saving grace that AMD has right now over Apple is the core count as AMD has a multi core performance advantage. But with news that Apple will have up to 32 cores by next year and considering that Apple tends to have 20-30% performance and/or power improvement every year. It's game-set-match for the near future. I won't count anyone out. But more realistic challenger would be RISC-V with the renewed global support to challenge ARM. But that's years away.

As far as OS is concerned, it doesn't really matter as long as you can get work done.
Dec 8, 2020 6:32 PM
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KaladinStormbornDec 8, 2020 6:32 PM
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How bright is the screen?
Dec 8, 2020 6:45 PM
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Sam KDec 8, 2020 6:45 PM
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Quote from MemorableShape5437 View quoted comment :
This is a good laptop for the said price here. I purchased this 3 weeks back for the full price and just tried to do a price match over bestbuy chat and got told I can't do it. Stupid bestbuy is getting a laptop as a return soon.
Their price match policy doesn't make sense during their extended holiday return period because you're going to buy a new one and just return it using the receipt from the first one you bought.

I guess they don't want to extend price matching period because then a lot of people will request price adjustments and they figure people won't make the effort to buy it again and return it with the receipt with the higher price.
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Dec 8, 2020 7:45 PM
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jake1110Dec 8, 2020 7:45 PM
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Quote from xanekka View quoted comment :
The only saving grace that AMD has right now over Apple is the core count as AMD has a multi core performance advantage. But with news that Apple will have up to 32 cores by next year and considering that Apple tends to have 20-30% performance and/or power improvement every year. It's game-set-match for the near future. I won't count anyone out. But more realistic challenger would be RISC-V with the renewed global support to challenge ARM. But that's years away.

As far as OS is concerned, it doesn't really matter as long as you can get work done.
It also really depends on what you want to do though, as you stated. I don't own an iPhone despite the A14 being the fastest processor in mobiles. If you're not currently in the Apple ecosystem, but you're certain your workloads are going to match up well, by all means switch. I'm thinking about it in the future as I have Windows desktop already that can handle that environment. I'm definitely curious as to what AMD/Intel are going to do in response in the long term.
Dec 8, 2020 8:48 PM
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goibhniuDec 8, 2020 8:48 PM
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Quote from Solandri View quoted comment :
Like I explained, the M1 does so well primarily because it's being manufactured at 5nm vs 7nm for AMD (and 7nm-equivalent for Intel). It's got 1.7x the transistor density advantage, which means the same performance for less power, or more performance for the same power, or some combination of the two.

That advantage won't last forever. TSMC is going to build out more 5nm manufacturing capacity. At which point AMD (and Nvidia and Qualcomm and a bunch of other companies) will end up on the same level playing field as Apple. AMD's processors on 7nm already slightly outclass the M1 on 5nm while using fewer transistors (the M1 is 12 billion transistors, while the AMD 4700U is about 10 billion). So AMD on 5nm should handily beat Apple's offerings.

So unless you're already committed to Apple's app ecosystem, it'd be foolhardy to switch now. You'll just end up regretting it once AMD starts releasing 5nm processors. I wouldn't count Intel out of the game yet either. Their 7nm process (expected 2022) is about 200 million transistors/mm^2, which would leapfrog TSMC's 5nm (170 MT/mm^2). Until TSMC can push out 3nm (also currently expected for 2022, about 250-300 MT/mm^2). Even if TSMC beats Intel again, Intel could swallow its pride and buy out TSMC's 3nm manufacturing capacity for their own processors, stagnating Apple (and AMD) at 5nm. Intel is one of the few companies with a more obscene profit margin than Apple (~30% vs ~20%, vs 5%-10% for the rest of the industry), so they could easily afford to do this.
The ARM architecture is also much more efficient than the x86 architecture, and that is the source of the bulk of their advantage, though they also have "accelerators" built into hardware for more common features as well, plus all of the neural cores. It's a dramatically different design from Intel and AMD, and it goes far beyond the manufacturing process.
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Dec 8, 2020 8:52 PM
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GoodMorningPeoplesDec 8, 2020 8:52 PM
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Over $1k and no dedicated GPU along with a 4-core CPU manufactured on a14nm process? No thanks.

This a massive battery drain and has thermal issues. The price to performance ratio of other laptops win out easily. AMD 4800H + 2060 will wipe this out on everything including games and can be had for $600-900.

About the only thing going for is its form factor. Even if thats paramount for you I would still recommend the HP Envy 360 4700U for $800 same specs or other similiar.
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Dec 8, 2020 8:58 PM
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turbodogDec 8, 2020 8:58 PM
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This thing is a beast.
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Dec 8, 2020 8:58 PM
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turbodogDec 8, 2020 8:58 PM
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Quote from GoodMorningPeoples View quoted comment :
Over $1k and no dedicated GPU along with a 4-core CPU manufactured on a14nm process? No thanks.

This a massive battery drain and has thermal issues. The price to performance ratio of other laptops win out easily. AMD 4800H + 2060 will wipe this out on everything including games and can be had for $600-900.

About the only thing going for is its form factor. Even if thats paramount for you I would still recommend the HP Envy 360 4700U for $800 same specs or other similiar.
LOL WUT. LMAO

You are WRONG and have no idea what you are talking about.
Dec 8, 2020 9:11 PM
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BrightStar1814Dec 8, 2020 9:11 PM
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Quote from GoodMorningPeoples View quoted comment :
Over $1k and no dedicated GPU along with a 4-core CPU manufactured on a14nm process? No thanks.

This a massive battery drain and has thermal issues. The price to performance ratio of other laptops win out easily. AMD 4800H + 2060 will wipe this out on everything including games and can be had for $600-900.

About the only thing going for is its form factor. Even if thats paramount for you I would still recommend the HP Envy 360 4700U for $800 same specs or other similiar.
Sounds like you're not the intended market for this product....also tiger lake is 10nm lol
Last edited by BrightStar1814 December 8, 2020 at 03:46 PM.
Dec 8, 2020 9:22 PM
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xanekkaDec 8, 2020 9:22 PM
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Quote from jake1110 View quoted comment :
It also really depends on what you want to do though, as you stated. I don't own an iPhone despite the A14 being the fastest processor in mobiles. If you're not currently in the Apple ecosystem, but you're certain your workloads are going to match up well, by all means switch. I'm thinking about it in the future as I have Windows desktop already that can handle that environment. I'm definitely curious as to what AMD/Intel are going to do in response in the long term.
One of the things that I have embraced being a SD user is that we cannot be a slave to a brand, OS, platform, etc. because there is a tax to not being able to switch. Right now, there is a tax on Windows users due to the status of the CPU. As with certain Apple users who happily pay an Apple tax, I am certain there are other people who will gladly pay a tax to use something or not wanting to use something else.

So, at the end of the day, you've got to ask yourself a question: do I feel like you are getting a slick deal if you are paying extra tax? Well, do ya?
Dec 8, 2020 10:57 PM
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ThriftyKestrel1633Dec 8, 2020 10:57 PM
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Quote from BrightStar1814 View quoted comment :
Sounds like you're not the intended market for this product....also tiger lake is 10th gen lol
Tigerlake is
11th gen
Dec 8, 2020 11:45 PM
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BrightStar1814Dec 8, 2020 11:45 PM
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Tigerlake is
11th gen
Crap I meant 10nm, my bad I have edited

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Dec 9, 2020 12:21 AM
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SpinControlDec 9, 2020 12:21 AM
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Quote from goibhniu View quoted comment :
The ARM architecture is also much more efficient than the x86 architecture, and that is the source of the bulk of their advantage, though they also have "accelerators" built into hardware for more common features as well, plus all of the neural cores. It's a dramatically different design from Intel and AMD, and it goes far beyond the manufacturing process.
And ARM is inherently better at power management, where they can make ARM systems lighter or provide many more hrs of use at the same mAh battery. Throttling kills x86 performance.

That said, M1 isn't the x86 killer yet. They have issues where performance advantage isn't broad-based and then there's the RAM limits.

I plan on buying the next gen AMD and then probably switch to a mac if the advances continue to come.
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