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Cloud Nine C989 ErgoFS Ergonomic Mechanical Split-Keyboard (15% off), free shipping, 45 day free returns $153

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I've been using a MS Ergonomic Natural 4000 Keyboard at home for years. Before that I had the IBM M keyboard with clickety-clackety sound. It was louder than the loudest Cherry MX Blue switches. I had switched keyboards for a number of reasons.

- MS 4000 keyboard is dead silent (membrane switches)
- comfortable soft spongy wrist rest. it really matters for protecting your wrists (carpal tunnel)
- elevated wrist rest. Hardcore aficionado call it "tenting". Much more natural position. Think the Kinesis advantage2 ($300). I prefer a slight downward slope but at a minimum I think you should be flat. Some keyboards force your wrist on the table so your fingers are elevated onto the keys.
- inexpensive. There have been slickdeals selling it for as low as $10! During pandemic, there has been a shortage but I think that will clear up by summer.

I started looking at mechanical keyboards as they seem to be all the rage nowadays. The Cherry MX Brown seems to be the best compromise for people who don't game much. They are very pricey, good ones are between $100-$200 and more. The ergonomic ones can go much higher. Dygma Raise is $319+!

I came across the Cloud Nine C989M, selling for $153 with coupon. Free 45 day return policy. Free shipping. It seems to be a nice progression from the MS 4000 keyboard. Split keyboard. Tenting (albeit one angle). Wrist rest. Macro keys. Full-size (I use keypad). Plus a number of other flourishes which I don't care much for, ie RGB lighting.

Wanted to see what people thought about this deal? I haven't pulled the trigger as my MS4000 is still pristine and working great. Price for a mechanical keyboard is about right but compared to $25 for a new MS4000, it's still 7x more expensive. They also have certified refurb for $140.

Note: software does not support Mac. Sorry Mac people, maybe you can tell Cloud Nine to hurry up with that software.

https://c9ergo.com/collections/sp...c-keyboard
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Lacosmo
12-31-2020 at 07:24 AM.
12-31-2020 at 07:24 AM.
Wirecutter has an article about ergonomic keyboards.
https://www.nytimes.com/wirecutte...-keyboard/

I use a right-hand mouse heavily, so I prefer a keyboard without a number pad (e.g. Kinesis Freestyle). TU for the coupon!
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Turncoatin
12-31-2020 at 08:22 AM.
12-31-2020 at 08:22 AM.
I don't understand, what is wrong with your MS4000, your current keyboard? Everything you wrote sold me on that one, rather than the one you posted.
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PotOdds
12-31-2020 at 08:34 AM.
12-31-2020 at 08:34 AM.
Saw that article and many more. Kinesis Edge is pricier and requires more money for tent/tilt kit and numpad. But Kinesis seems the market leader in this segment so long term support may be better.

Quote from Lacosmo :
Wirecutter has an article about ergonomic keyboards.
https://www.nytimes.com/wirecutte...-keyboard/ [nytimes.com]

I use a right-hand mouse heavily, so I prefer a keyboard without a number pad (e.g. Kinesis Freestyle). TU for the coupon!
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PotOdds
12-31-2020 at 08:39 AM.
12-31-2020 at 08:39 AM.
Ugh, I suffer from the "next big thing"-itis. Big Grin Seriously I'm always looking to up my productivity since I'm a programmer.

Macros could speed up my typing. Split keyboard could be even more ergonomically better. I did like some of the other ergo keyboards that have space and delete key in the middle of the split. But this keyboard doesn't have that.
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I don't understand, what is wrong with your MS4000, your current keyboard? Everything you wrote sold me on that one, rather than the one you posted.
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takhyon
12-31-2020 at 09:05 AM.
12-31-2020 at 09:05 AM.
I bought and returned this keyboard. I had 2 problems:

1. Macros didn't quite work. Ctrl W or Ctrl F4 would not work.
2. Cherry switches are bad nowadays. They are scratchy. Someone explained somewhere that their molds are old and deteriorated. I don't know if that's the actual reason, but I do know that they are much scratchier than other switches.

If you don't mind these two issues it's not a bad keyboard. It's the only mechanical ergo keyboard I know with a standard layout.
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oreganotrail
12-31-2020 at 09:17 AM.
12-31-2020 at 09:17 AM.
Lemme guess, the software doesn't work with linux?

Also an amazon review complained about warranty. Manufacturer apparently doesn't even respond if you have issues.
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12-31-2020 at 10:00 AM.
12-31-2020 at 10:00 AM.
There are some strange things about the keyboard like the Fn key where the Win key should belong but I heard you can basically remap any key.

Cherry switches, in general, seem to be lauded in most of the interviews I've read. Some manufacturers have come up with their own variants.

Good to hear you returned it. Was it an Amazon return or straight from Cloud Nine? I would like confirmation that they honor their 45 day free return shipping. I had emailed them if I was to buy all 3 switches (red, blue, brown) and return the 2 I didn't like, would that qualify for the free return shipping. They replied that free return shipping was only for defective items??? I replied that the website specifically said 45 day money back guarantee and free return shipping. It seems they don't want to deal with a lot of people doing the same thing. But nowadays you can do it if you bought them individually.

Quote from takhyon :
I bought and returned this keyboard. I had 2 problems:

1. Macros didn't quite work. Ctrl W or Ctrl F4 would not work.
2. Cherry switches are bad nowadays. They are scratchy. Someone explained somewhere that their molds are old and deteriorated. I don't know if that's the actual reason, but I do know that they are much scratchier than other switches.

If you don't mind these two issues it's not a bad keyboard. It's the only mechanical ergo keyboard I know with a standard layout.
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12-31-2020 at 10:01 AM.
12-31-2020 at 10:01 AM.
Quote from Lacosmo :
Wirecutter has an article about ergonomic keyboards.
https://www.nytimes.com/wirecutte...-keyboard/

I use a right-hand mouse heavily, so I prefer a keyboard without a number pad (e.g. Kinesis Freestyle). TU for the coupon!

Never use wirecutter. Reviews are 100% paid for
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12-31-2020 at 10:02 AM.
12-31-2020 at 10:02 AM.
There was a review on Youtube, about the only legit review, that discussed the company response to an issue which was bad. So it looks like it's a small growing company which can be a concern for long term support. But in general, it has very good ratings on Amazon.

Only support for Windows

Quote from oreganotrail :
Lemme guess, the software doesn't work with linux?

Also an amazon review complained about warranty. Manufacturer apparently doesn't even respond if you have issues.
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12-31-2020 at 10:14 AM.
12-31-2020 at 10:14 AM.
Quote from PotOdds :
There was a review on Youtube, about the only legit review, that discussed the company response to an issue which was bad. So it looks like it's a small growing company which can be a concern for long term support. But in general, it has very good ratings on Amazon.

Only support for Windows
Not that its a big deal imo in regards to the software thing. But, a small company unwilling to stand up to it's 2 year warranty doesn't sound like a small company worth giving a crap about.
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12-31-2020 at 10:46 AM.
12-31-2020 at 10:46 AM.
Quote from Evan55 :
Never use wirecutter. Reviews are 100% paid for

I don't disagree about the product selections, few sources of unbiased reviews these days. However the analysis and feature breakdown is helpful for making comparisons.
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wangcho78
12-31-2020 at 11:13 AM.
12-31-2020 at 11:13 AM.
Been using nothing but MS ergonomic kbs and this intrigued me but below comment from Amazon made it clear that it's really not an ergonomic keyboard.

"There is also no tenting to raise the wrist rest. When you type, your wrist and hand should be in a straight line. Instead, your hand points upward and the wrist is lower. This can cause pain after extended typing. If you have carpal tunnel or any wrist pains, this will become an issue in no time."
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xiaoposhi
12-31-2020 at 02:16 PM.
12-31-2020 at 02:16 PM.
I use Kinesis Freestyle Pro that has the same Cherry MX Brown swtich. I like the layout that has no numpad, so I can save a lot of travel accessing my trackball using my right hand.
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