GIGABYTE BRIX GB-BRi7-10710 (Ultra Compact Mini PC/Dual SO-DIMM DDR4/Intel UHD Graphics 620/6xUSB 3.2 Gen2/ Intel Wireless-AC 3168/HDMI WiFi & Bluetooth 4.2) for $509.99

Vannita

Jan 19, 2021 04:34 PM

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VannitaJan 19, 2021 04:34 PM

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Great. But again, that should be in the description, rather than saying "RAM 64 GB" there.

Yes, but in the title there is no mention of 64 GB of RAM included and in the features & details it says 'dual so-dimm ddr4 supports up to 2666mhz, 64gb' so you know how much RAM you can add.

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dstmo

Jan 19, 2021 04:48 PM

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dstmoJan 19, 2021 04:48 PM

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Is what a joke? Am I making a joke? You can click the deal link and find text I quoted, so no. Are the people answering the questions making a joke? Heck if I know. Like I said, there's a lot of conflicting information here.

If you look at the link, it is clearly a barebones system, so you need to add your own RAM, SSD and OS.

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Only1KW

Jan 19, 2021 05:16 PM

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Only1KWJan 19, 2021 05:16 PM

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Yes, but in the title there is no mention of 64 GB of RAM included and in the features & details it says 'dual so-dimm ddr4 supports up to 2666mhz, 64gb' so you know how much RAM you can add.

It ALSO says "RAM 64 GB" in the description. It is a direct quote from there. That information indicates it's already there and in no way conflicts with the later statement that 64 GB is the max supported.

Last edited by Only1KW January 19, 2021 at 09:22 AM.

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Only1KW

Jan 19, 2021 05:21 PM

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Only1KWJan 19, 2021 05:21 PM

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If you look at the link, it is clearly a barebones system, so you need to add your own RAM, SSD and OS.

Right near the top of the Amazon link it says "RAM 64 GB". That's probably where the data in the description came from. If you go down a bit on the Amazon page to "Compare with similar items", for "This item" it clearly shows "Computer Memory Size" as "64.0 GB" even though the other items show "0" and "8 GB". So even if "Computer Memory Size" means Max Memory Size, Amazon still isn't being consistent. Nowhere in the page does it use the word "barebone" or make any reference to RAM being missing and needing to be installed separately (outside of the Q&A).

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Vannita

Jan 19, 2021 05:45 PM

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VannitaJan 19, 2021 05:45 PM

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It ALSO says "RAM 64 GB" in the description. It is a direct quote from there. That information indicates it's already there and in no way conflicts with the later statement that 64 GB is the max supported.

That is just a specification requirement for the amount of memory for items in the computers section. All of the listing are required to have a memory specification so you know how much can be added. Nowhere does it says the RAM is included and the listing makes it clear it's a barebones's PC. As if that was not sufficiently clear, good luck finding a brand new 10th Gen i7 PC with 64 GB RAM for $500.

Only1KW

Jan 19, 2021 06:34 PM

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Only1KWJan 19, 2021 06:34 PM

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That is just a specification requirement for the amount of memory for items in the computers section. All of the listing are required to have a memory specification so you know how much can be added. Nowhere does it says the RAM is included and the listing makes it clear it's a barebones's PC. As if that was not sufficiently clear, good luck finding a brand new 10th Gen i7 PC with 64 GB RAM for $500.

I've already stated I don't see anything about "barebone" in the listing. Can you please point out where it is "clear" it's a barebones PC? Several other individuals after me have also pointed out in the comments as a warning that the RAM isn't installed, and there are several questions about it in the listing, so I don't think it is as clear as you think it is.

Common sense says the statement "RAM 64 GB" is referring to installed, not max. This is how most other PC listings work. Potential customers should not be expected to assume that is only the max amount supported and explicitly look for the word "installed" or "included" to determine how much RAM is actually installed if they were to find the term "RAM 64 GB".

I agree that finding a new PC with 64 GB of RAM for only $500 is unlikely, hence why I went digging in the first place. The result of that digging was my first comment on this thread, so I could share with others what I learned.

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kcoconut

Jan 19, 2021 06:54 PM

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kcoconutJan 19, 2021 06:54 PM

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Quote from Only1KW

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I've already stated I don't see anything about "barebone" in the listing. Can you please point out where it is "clear" it's a barebones PC? Several other individuals after me have also pointed out in the comments as a warning that the RAM isn't installed, and there are several questions about it in the listing, so I don't think it is as clear as you think it is.

Common sense says the statement "RAM 64 GB" is referring to installed, not max. This is how most other PC listings work. Potential customers should not be expected to assume that is only the max amount supported and explicitly look for the word "installed" or "included" to determine how much RAM is actually installed if they were to find the term "RAM 64 GB".

I agree that finding a new PC with 64 GB of RAM for only $500 is unlikely, hence why I went digging in the first place. The result of that digging was my first comment on this thread, so I could share with others what I learned.

I agree, the way the specs are listed anyone can and will assume that this comes with RAM. I think it would be nice to include in the description that no RAM comes with this purchase.

SociableRecess294

Jan 19, 2021 07:26 PM

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SociableRecess294Jan 19, 2021 07:26 PM

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Quote from Only1KW

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Is what a joke? Am I making a joke? You can click the deal link and find text I quoted, so no. Are the people answering the questions making a joke? Heck if I know. Like I said, there's a lot of conflicting information here.

I was agreeing with you calm down and seek help you seem unstable... good luck...

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JohnPN

Jan 20, 2021 03:38 AM

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JohnPNJan 20, 2021 03:38 AM

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Like many other folks here, I also got tricked into believing it has 64 GB of RAM included. If it supports up to 64 GB, then it should say "Supports up to 64 GB of RAM", or at least "Up to 64 GB RAM", rather than "RAM 64 GB", which is what would be written if it actually had 64 GB.

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dstmo

Jan 20, 2021 01:13 PM

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dstmoJan 20, 2021 01:13 PM

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Quote from Only1KW

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I've already stated I don't see anything about "barebone" in the listing. Can you please point out where it is "clear" it's a barebones PC? Several other individuals after me have also pointed out in the comments as a warning that the RAM isn't installed, and there are several questions about it in the listing, so I don't think it is as clear as you think it is.

Common sense says the statement "RAM 64 GB" is referring to installed, not max. This is how most other PC listings work. Potential customers should not be expected to assume that is only the max amount supported and explicitly look for the word "installed" or "included" to determine how much RAM is actually installed if they were to find the term "RAM 64 GB".

I agree that finding a new PC with 64 GB of RAM for only $500 is unlikely, hence why I went digging in the first place. The result of that digging was my first comment on this thread, so I could share with others what I learned.

Did you even read any of the questions in the listing? It was clearly asked and answered. I would agree that the listing on Amazon could be clearer, but less than 1 minute into the page on Amazon, it was clear (to me at least) that it was a barebones unit.

"Question: Does this have an os installed? how many mb of ram does this unit have?
Answer1: It doesn't come with memory, hard drive, and OS. You will have to buy the memory module, the hard drive, and the OS separately and install it yourself
Answer 2: This is sold bare bones so would need to purchase ram, ssd, and os separately."

AustinPowersISU

Jan 20, 2021 02:31 PM

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AustinPowersISUJan 20, 2021 02:31 PM

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I find it interesting that people state this is a a good deal, but will look at the $699 mac mini and claim it's too expensive.

Mini comes with an OS, RAM, and hard drive. It also has thunderbolt ports.

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Only1KW

Jan 20, 2021 04:34 PM

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Only1KWJan 20, 2021 04:34 PM

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Quote from dstmo

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Did you even read any of the questions in the listing? It was clearly asked and answered. I would agree that the listing on Amazon could be clearer, but less than 1 minute into the page on Amazon, it was clear (to me at least) that it was a barebones unit.

"Question: Does this have an os installed? how many mb of ram does this unit have?
Answer1: It doesn't come with memory, hard drive, and OS. You will have to buy the memory module, the hard drive, and the OS separately and install it yourself
Answer 2: This is sold bare bones so would need to purchase ram, ssd, and os separately."

Yes, I've seen the Q&A, evidenced by me quoting it already in the comments and referencing it several times (including saying "there are several questions about it in the listing" in the comment you quoted). I typically don't go to the Q&A section unless I have a question, nor should anyone be expected to go to the Q&A section to learn corrections to basic information about the product elsewhere in the page.

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BlueVoyager308

Jan 23, 2021 12:08 PM

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BlueVoyager308Jan 23, 2021 12:08 PM

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I find it interesting that people state this is a a good deal, but will look at the $699 mac mini and claim it's too expensive.

Mini comes with an OS, RAM, and hard drive. It also has thunderbolt ports.

For me, this is not a good deal. However, I won't consider that Apple either, due to various reasons.

BlueVoyager308

Jan 23, 2021 12:13 PM

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BlueVoyager308Jan 23, 2021 12:13 PM

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This good for my 65 yo mom? She does facebook and likes streaming content video. She does fb games about it. She is not pc savy she shops,fb,stream media but she complains things that load slow. She open a lot to in tabs like 10-20 max. This good for her and can this do 4k streaming?

This is absolutely not for your mother. This is a kit PC that is designed for the people with some PC skills. It's expensive if you add necessary parts and a copy of the operating system. For your mother, get a used and cheap 4th Generation i3 Intel PC.

max1001

Feb 11, 2021 06:42 PM

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max1001Feb 11, 2021 06:42 PM

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Just get a Lenovo m75q-tiny gen2 AMD. https://www.lenovo.com/us/en/mype...1TC1MTM7G2
4640ge/16gb/512gb nvme with Windows Pro for less than $500 if you have perks.

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