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Feb 10, 2021 09:25 PM
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Cow_ranchFeb 10, 2021 09:25 PM
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Quote from Thegame956 :
So if there's a storm or cloudy day, bad internet service ?
There are speed tests on reddit and youtube showing how it's affected. Sure it will slow down and possibly fail in very bad weather, so will Hughes/Viasat and Dish/Directv.

Quote from Bathy :
cannot believe this is still true in 2020, I remember using 5-10 Mb DSL at home back in the 90s, that was 30 years ago
It was '97 before dialup was available here as a local call. No unlimited dialup was ever available as a local call. It was capped at 30 hours per month. I had that until '06. Upgraded to Wildblue satellite, 0.5Mbps down, about 0.1Mbps up, 7.5GB 30 day rolling download cap, 2.3GB 30 day rolling upload cap (separate "buckets"). In town (village, about 200 people at the time), they didn't get DSL until maybe about that same time (I think?). It was $85 like it is now, and also 0.5Mbps (compared to an unreliable 5Mbps now).

Quote from d-_-b :
Still can't get starlink in Antarctica 😂
Possibly eventually. https://www.teslarati.com/spacex-...-approval/

Quote from KonradU :
Expensive, who cleans up the crap all these satellites leave behind? Far better solution is to upgrade America's electrical grid and include internet for a real future. Remember when satellite tv was a thing?
As mentioned they will de-orbit themselves if they have an issue or at end of life. Also, they are in low orbit and will return to earth "shortly" if they fail completely and aren't able to do that on their own.

Quote from bigblue4ever :
Unless you've been living under a rock there is nothing slick about this deal. Pricing for this service has been readily available for months.
True, but it wasn't available for preorder by most, like it is now.

Quote from j1dopeman :
I see people mentioning cell plans but everytime I've looked including today I don't see any without limits. T-mobile / sprint are not options where I live. Please give me a specific data only plan without a cap that runs on AT&T or Verizon network. I don't see one.
I can't get tmobile/sprint either, 50 miles for a signal in one direction. ATT came in for the first time last summer. Only 6 miles away, and there's no usable signal in the yard and barely any in the pastures, unless I can actually see the tower, very poor signal, doesn't travel well, so very large dead spots going down the highway (and no more towers coming). I think I could make it work in the house with the antenna.

Here are some, updated a while ago. Of course a lot of these won't work for a lot of people. And finding "true" unlimited is difficult. The resellers are often shady, lots with ATT have been either shut down or capped. https://www.reddit.com/r/Rural_In...t_options/

I have the grandfathered Verizon pUDP that was offered about 6 months ending almost 2 years ago. No cap, just full time deprioritized, and streaming limited to HD. No complaints, do about 20/15, cell tower 13 miles away.

Quote from Lakupipus :
$500 for the hardware +50 for shipping + 30 for taxes +99 a month...Elon must be smoking again.
Well, for that price they're taking a fairly big loss on the equipment as it is. The cost has been roughly calculated, plus, look up how much a phased array antenna costs (that's what the "dish" is). And second, a low end but name brand cell booster starts at that price. I have one (to get a cell signal I can use with phones in the house). I know MANY people that have one. And, Viasat/Hughes charge $10 (or so) per month to let you use their equipment. They used to let you buy (or prepay the lease). In other words, if you use the service for "a while", cost is in line with its direct competition. Here, Viasat's cheapest plan is $110 with the lease, for 12Mbps that you don't see 5, 35GB before less than 1Mbps, and streaming always limited to 360p (and the ~700ms pings). Which would you choose?
Feb 10, 2021 09:30 PM
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KnightshadeFeb 10, 2021 09:30 PM
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Quote from SubliminalAttempt :
OK buddy - keep telling yourself that the hardcore musk fans are representative of the general population
The source I provided you is literally the general population of CR subscribers being polled on how satisfied they are with their car (across all brands).

Tesla scored far higher than anybody else.

For the third year in a row (and they've only been included as an option for 3 years).


I'm sorry the facts don't fit your narrative, but the great thing about facts is they're true even if you refuse to accept them.


Quote from SubliminalAttempt :
. I'm curious why every internet thread always has to have a shillbot type character that defends the indefensible things fElon Musk has done or claims to do and never delivers.

...what?

I was simply debunking your fact-free claims about his products.

A better question is why does every thread involving one of his companies have people launching nonsense attacks on them?


Quote from SubliminalAttempt :
He's been thoroughly debunked as a fraudulent subsidy trufflehound full of fake science gimmick language. let it go already!

That was quite the word salad of long debunked nonsense ya got there! Applause

Tesla's was the first car company to stop getting EV subsidies- and directly contrary to the lies the anti-EV folks kept telling, their sales continued to grow rapidly even after they were gone.

Tesla is also the only car company with more cash on hand than debt- and has the highest gross vehicle profit margin in the industry.


But yeah... .kept screaming nonsense fraud claims like the other TSLAQ whiners have wrongly done for years yet somehow never having evidence.

Just like the election was "stolen" right? LMAO



Quote from gallymimus :
you don't need to be persnickety because you communicated and justified poorly.
I don't, because I wasn't.

everyone else appears to have understood the well known, and widely reported, facts I mentioned.


Quote from gallymimus :
In any case I don't find the data from your article to be credible at all
Why?

They provide links to their sources. What, specifically, do you not find credible?



Quote from gallymimus :
, especially since "broadband speeds" isn't even defined

I'm not sure how you conclude that.

Because it's absolutely defined.

https://1gew6o3qn6vx9kp3s42ge0y1-...S-maps.png

That shows the FCC data (and the definition of broadband speed)

And next to it- the MIcrosoft data showing why the FCC data is so bad... (also with the definition of broadband speed)




Quote from gallymimus :
and is certainly subjective.
How is it subjective?

On the left is the misleading FCC data which simply shows you all the zip codes someone in that area could obtain 25mbps or faster broadband (though in most cases only a select # of someones, with most of the area not having the service available to them).


On the right is the fact and data based Microsoft map of where people actually have those speeds.


The one on the left says about 25.x million don't have broadband (defined as 25Mbps or higher) the one on the right shows the real number at over 163 million.


They then go on to cite 2 other sources including PEW research whose results largely match their own (Microsoft) data as far as the # without broadband.
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Feb 10, 2021 09:35 PM
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WoodchuckwouldFeb 10, 2021 09:35 PM
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My options are centurylink 6m/500k for $50/mo, or $3800 for a 60' tower to pull 25mbps for $150/mo. Only 4G here is verizon, which even on an mvno caps out at around 60 GB/month (not sufficient for anything but RDP).

Yes, starlink is a great option for some of us.
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Feb 10, 2021 09:45 PM
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KnightshadeFeb 10, 2021 09:45 PM
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Quote from SubliminalAttempt :
Humor is nice, but burning hundreds of millions in cash is a total waste of money. there will not be a mars colony, starship will not make it to mars with 100 people. hate going off topic in the thread but this stuff needs to be debunked before people actually believe anything elon musk says.

See series on debunking starship: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cDYt-phUAxY


That's a dude "debunking" based on prototype specs of an unfinished craft still being iteratively modified.


And even then as you can see in the comments he gets a lot of stuff wrong.



The same sort of bad-at-math folks kept "debunking" his plan to vertically land and re-use rockets for years.

Didn't work out too good for them then either.

Then when they were wrong, they insisted SpaceX was just faking all the landings.


https://www.vice.com/en/article/n...et-landing
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Feb 11, 2021 12:15 AM
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Mr_ZFeb 11, 2021 12:15 AM
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I hope more players get into the space and make it cheaper. These cable companies keep increasing the price and removing the old speed tiers. I used to get 100Mbps for 40 bucks, then they removed that tier and I had to pay 55 for 150Mbps. Now I'm paying $90 for 300Mbps. They are making lost revenues from cable tv by increasing the internet price.
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Feb 11, 2021 12:37 AM
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speedkilz88Feb 11, 2021 12:37 AM
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Quote from shark974 :
There are gray-area ATT iPad unlimited plans for 20 a month, and tons of other shenanigans, but thats a whole nother ball of wax with a learning curve to navigate. If you're interested I suggest you get ta googling and facebooking. There's a FB group called LTE hacks with info, but again it can be a pretty steep learning curve.

For Verizon a big one people do is visible, which I believe is unlimited but capped at 5 mbps after a certain amount of data. But 5 mbps is a lot better than nothing.
It's $35 these days and I think ATT is wanting more ipad info than originally as well. I just wanted to change my cc info and they wanted more info just to get into my account.
Feb 11, 2021 01:53 AM
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2Eight0Feb 11, 2021 01:53 AM
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Can I use it on the airplane?

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Feb 11, 2021 02:51 AM
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daakrolbFeb 11, 2021 02:51 AM
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Quote from SmilingMorning4257 :
I don't get this project. I know it will offer wired line like service to rural Westerners at a fair but not great price. But what about connecting poor people who live in the Amazon rainforest or in the middle of nowhere? I was thinking that satellite internet could even help people who live in dystopian nightmare countries like North Korea, Russia, China. But $100 is too much for the aforementioned groups. This was never about the masses or repressed. Oh, well.
Tell me more, oh WOKE one!!!
Feb 11, 2021 02:58 AM
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daakrolbFeb 11, 2021 02:58 AM
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Quote from Knightshade :
The source I provided you is literally the general population of CR subscribers being polled on how satisfied they are with their car (across all brands).

Tesla scored far higher than anybody else.

For the third year in a row (and they've only been included as an option for 3 years).


I'm sorry the facts don't fit your narrative, but the great thing about facts is they're true even if you refuse to accept them.





...what?

I was simply debunking your fact-free claims about his products.

A better question is why does every thread involving one of his companies have people launching nonsense attacks on them?





That was quite the word salad of long debunked nonsense ya got there! Applause

Tesla's was the first car company to stop getting EV subsidies- and directly contrary to the lies the anti-EV folks kept telling, their sales continued to grow rapidly even after they were gone.

Tesla is also the only car company with more cash on hand than debt- and has the highest gross vehicle profit margin in the industry.


But yeah... .kept screaming nonsense fraud claims like the other TSLAQ whiners have wrongly done for years yet somehow never having evidence.

Just like the election was "stolen" right? LMAO





I don't, because I wasn't.

everyone else appears to have understood the well known, and widely reported, facts I mentioned.




Why?

They provide links to their sources. What, specifically, do you not find credible?






I'm not sure how you conclude that.

Because it's absolutely defined.

https://1gew6o3qn6vx9kp3s42ge0y1-...S-maps.png

That shows the FCC data (and the definition of broadband speed)

And next to it- the MIcrosoft data showing why the FCC data is so bad... (also with the definition of broadband speed)






How is it subjective?

On the left is the misleading FCC data which simply shows you all the zip codes someone in that area could obtain 25mbps or faster broadband (though in most cases only a select # of someones, with most of the area not having the service available to them).


On the right is the fact and data based Microsoft map of where people actually have those speeds.


The one on the left says about 25.x million don't have broadband (defined as 25Mbps or higher) the one on the right shows the real number at over 163 million.


They then go on to cite 2 other sources including PEW research whose results largely match their own (Microsoft) data as far as the # without broadband.
"Literally." What are you- a 12 year old girl trying to sound smart?
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Feb 11, 2021 03:22 AM
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tooslickFeb 11, 2021 03:22 AM
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Quote from zubikov :
Seeing these prices all I can say is thank god I live near a major metropolitan area where very fast, uncapped, reliable internet is available.
Living near a major metropolitan city with 1gbps internet, nice.


Living on a 20 acre lakeside property with Starlink internet, priceless.
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Feb 11, 2021 03:50 AM
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echooffFeb 11, 2021 03:50 AM
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Quote from ClintiePoo :
Starlink is now taking $99 deposits to reserve a spot in line when the service comes available. Service dates: mid to late 2021.

Terms:
US: https://www.starlink.com/legal/te...ionCode=US
GB: https://www.starlink.com/legal/te...ionCode=GB
A brief explanation of what this is for an average folk?
Feb 11, 2021 04:02 AM
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nitsogarFeb 11, 2021 04:02 AM
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Quote from echooff :
A brief explanation of what this is for an average folk?
Satellite Internet ... but better.
Feb 11, 2021 04:10 AM
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LeYangFeb 11, 2021 04:10 AM
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Quote from Lakupipus :
$500 for the hardware +50 for shipping + 30 for taxes +99 a month...Elon must be smoking again.
You literally have no idea how much internet cost from satellites.

From TS2 covering in the Southwest Asia, not counting the cost of a used dish, LNB and satellite modem which ran about 2500 for the dude that passed off to us a few years ago.

https://imgur.com/Jvo40h8

This is going to work worldwide for the most part and doesn't require different equipment for different regions. Also on top of that, you can easily move the starlink receiver to different places without any issues, that 500 dollar price for the equipment for the speed, and overall is FRIGGING insanely good for the monthly price.
Feb 11, 2021 06:42 AM
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wildbillybobFeb 11, 2021 06:42 AM
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There are many people like me who have nothing but expensive slow options. I've had Starlink for about four months and would kill anyone who tried to take it. I was paying $50 a month for flaky 6mbps, now I have 50-200mbps for $100. I know dozens of people in my area (WA) that either have it or signed up for it. There are probably at least 50k people within 100 miles of me that would love it. I am not some weird Tesla fanboy, I am someone currently using Starlink that's extremely happy to have this option. Not sure what all the arguing is about, if you don't need this you don't understand the pain and should move on.
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Quote from KypMadak :
Right?! I've had 2mbs internet for the last 15 years and I pay $80 a month for it.
Holy hell, that's awful! Makes me feel very spoiled that I was annoyed when they recently raised the cost on my 200MB connection to $55/month! 🤣🤣🤣

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