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Starlink is now taking $99 deposits to reserve a spot in line when the service comes available. Service dates: mid to late 2021.

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Feb 11, 2021 10:01 AM
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KnightRidFeb 11, 2021 10:01 AM
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Quote from SpinControl :
For people who want this, do you get cellular?
5G will be around/better than 100 mbps.
ATT, Verizon, and TMobile offer home internet if you in a covered region for this service (not sure if it'll open up to all areas covered by their mobile networks).

Just wondering the limits of this business. Starlink is being explored for stock market IPO. Obviously great for rural and underdeveloped countries, but will 1st world then have to cover the costs? Intriguing way to bringing internet to the globe, but will Starlink make money or is this all altruism?
Just to address the 4G/5G stuff - I see NONE of those home offerings in my area. They are targeting metropolitan areas where they don't actually need the service rather than the rural areas that do. It wasn't 7 years ago the only option here was a dial-up modem! IN THE USA! Companies took the rural broadband money and pocketed it and just keep giving false hope to anyone who lives where you stream a movie by starting it, pausing ti, walking away for a few hours and then hopefully being able to watch it without buffering every 2 minutes.

I would LOVE 5G or even 4G home but they are not offered. I will not do all the "hacks" to try and get true unlimited as I don't need the hassle. Starlink is providing the service. It is here, NOW (for some but more than the cellular home service is) and will be worldwide within a year I believe. Cell phone companies could have done 4G home for YEARS and they didn't due to the amount of money they can charge on mobile devices compared to stationary since they have actual competition in the stationary market.

As far as the IPO. I said it before, maybe in this thread, Starlink will fail if cellular companies open up nationwide home service with unlimited data (TRUE UNLIMITED) at 4G or 5G speeds and Starlink doesn't lower pricing. I think Starlink should be giving the equipment for free in that $100 a month plan and should seriously think about lowering that price quickly once the cell companies push for home users. There are not enough places that do not get cell phone coverage that could pay for all those satellites if everyone jumps to a 5G home service for $50 a month. I would be VERY leery on the IPO (I am no professional what-so-ever so take it or leave it) due to the timing and availability of 4g/5g home.
Feb 11, 2021 10:58 AM
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Matt9038Feb 11, 2021 10:58 AM
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Quote from Jaggsta :
$100 for internet just as bad as cable companies.
In rural areas people pay co-ops $120+/month for 10Mb/s. Companies like google, ATT, Comcast, etc. can't even come in and install infrastructure for fiber
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Feb 11, 2021 12:06 PM
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slugbugFeb 11, 2021 12:06 PM
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>>During beta, users can expect to see data speeds vary from 50Mb/s to 150Mb/s

Is that megabits, or megabytes? I get 30 megabit connection for $15 a month.
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Feb 11, 2021 12:28 PM
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ramblerFWFeb 11, 2021 12:28 PM
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Any clue if you can use/pay this seasonally (ie not pay for the 9 months you are not at a remote summer camp)?
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Feb 11, 2021 12:39 PM
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Feb 11, 2021 12:39 PM
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Quote from Lakupipus :
$500 for the hardware +50 for shipping + 30 for taxes +99 a month...Elon must be smoking again.
It's obviously not for you then. I'd gladly pay double that for access to high speed internet.
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Feb 11, 2021 12:41 PM
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Quote from slugbug :
>>During beta, users can expect to see data speeds vary from 50Mb/s to 150Mb/s

Is that megabits, or megabytes? I get 30 megabit connection for $15 a month.
I don't understand why people keep saying "Well I get this for way cheaper!" IT'S NOT FOR YOU. It's for people who CAN'T get that. About 160 million Americans. You're just spoiled and don't know how a lot of people don't have access to high speed internet.
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Feb 11, 2021 12:44 PM
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Quote from jstutman :
The $500 hardware is honestly the biggest joke. At $500 per household. These small rural communities can roll out ftth and apply for the same government money and be up and running before starlink.
HAHAHAHAHAHA. I'm 1/4 a mile from the nearest line for high speed internet. They won't run it to my house. I asked them if they would if I paid. You know how much they wanted? $10,000. TEN THOUSAND farkING DOLLARS.

You don't know what you're talking about, and it's very obvious.
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Feb 11, 2021 12:52 PM
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RedmontFeb 11, 2021 12:52 PM
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Quote from Knightshade :
This.

If you use real data instead of the junk the recent FCC was putting out, something like half of americans don't have real broadband access.

Fastest I can get at my house is 8 Mb DSL, no matter how much I'm willing to pay.

And I only get that without a data cap by paying business rates.

I'd happily pay double what Starlink is asking just to get half the average speed users of starlink in the beta are receiving.

Even that would be 5x faster than what I have now.

If I got average starlink beta speeds it'd be a 10x improvement.

And the targeted final speeds would be a roughly 120x improvement over the best I can get now.


https://www.fastcompany.com/90599...-elon-musk [fastcompany.com]
take a look at my comment . I was in the same boat as you until I started taking my internet from the cell tower using an RV data plan . I get 30 mbps to 100 mbps and mostly around 60 to 70 mbps using a 4g lte modem and router . Honestly for now that is fast enough for every application. Yes it takes me 4 minutes to download a game instead of 1 minute but I can live with that
Feb 11, 2021 01:01 PM
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RedmontFeb 11, 2021 01:01 PM
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Quote from KillyMcGee :
I have 2 LTE modems, a 1200$ Wilson booster and its on a 20' tower. There are times with my setup I get a wonderful connection allowing the stream of HD quality video however its normal for me to get between 1.5-3Mb/s down and .1Mb/s up. Latency is consistently between 30-40ms. Also its noticeable that bandwidth is much better late at night and early morning but throughout the day it deteriorates at times to a point of unusable around 5-8pm. I currently spend $45 a month on a backup 1.5Mb/s DSL connection and since I'm 25K feet of copper out I shouldn't have that. The two LTE connections cost nearly 80$ a month by the time you add tax and fees. I have 1 thats dedicated to 1 PC (vpn for example) and another that's shared like the scraps amongst angry wolves (aka the kids using it on their portable devices and such).

Glad the YAGA (I assume you actually mean YAGI antenna) works for you it does not for me or others I know.

Starlink if it offers a reliable 10+mbps will allow me to get rid of a DSL connection and an LTE connection. It will also allow my kids to see that the large flat box on the wall is capable of more than 320P worth of pixels.
Yes during the day the load on the tower increases and depending on your plan you can be deprioitized . No solution works for everyone and you may be way out in the hinterlands, A lot depends on your carrier and how far out you are. Att is apparently far better than Verizon for this. I don't have a Yagi I just use the tiny antennae on my Mofi and placed it near an upstairs window . Not sure what modems you are using or if it makes a difference but try the Mofi if you have not done so already.
Feb 11, 2021 01:11 PM
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BombebombFeb 11, 2021 01:11 PM
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Quote from Redmont :
Yes during the day the load on the tower increases and depending on your plan you can be deprioitized . No solution works for everyone and you may be way out in the hinterlands, A lot depends on your carrier and how far out you are. Att is apparently far better than Verizon for this. I don't have a Yagi I just use the tiny antennae on my Mofi and placed it near an upstairs window . Not sure what modems you are using or if it makes a difference but try the Mofi if you have not done so already.
I am unsure why att would be better than verizon if they have towers in the same places. Both use 700mhz for there lowest frequencies.
Feb 11, 2021 01:16 PM
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phoenix42Feb 11, 2021 01:16 PM
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Quote from jojodakilla :
It's amazing how many people don't understand this. I live in a rural area and I'm capped at 150gb which is a lot and I was lucky to get that. My speeds are at best 10mbps down and maybe 2 up. I pay a little over 120 a month for this. Plus 800ms response time. This internet is absolutely revolutionary for people like me. If you don't need it, simply don't get it.
Agreed. City and suburb dwellers are not the target market, although some off them live in areas that lack competition, I do (I pay Comcast $55 for 25mbps), which this will thankfully bring. You folks out in the sticks who are sucking the internet through a straw are going to be the real winners, as are people in under developed countries.
Feb 11, 2021 01:19 PM
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RedmontFeb 11, 2021 01:19 PM
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Quote from KnightRid :
Cell carriers limit your speed once you hit their data cap. With unlimited there is still a data cap bu just larger. I get a good 80+mbps down and 22+mbps up on AT&T 4gLTE in my area but they do not offer a home plan and with the data limitations they impose I don't think it is a great deal. If they ever open up 4g/5g home service then starlink is going to fail unless they drastically reduce pricing, in the USA anyway. It would still be viable around the globe in areas where cell coverage is only by satellite phone.
Att actually never "caps" your speed on the unlimited plans —they only lower your priority on the tower during peak traffic times and they do not even do that if you have a grandfathered unlimited plan. The lower priority does decrease your speed in peak times so that is why I say the range can be 30 to 100 mbps. Att does have a RV plans which anyone can buy but there are many small companies that cater to RVs that buy up old grandfathered plans and resell them (100% legally or I'm sure Att or other carriers would have stopped it by now since it is very widespread) or or just buy and resell services for around $70 per month . You need to look around on some of the RV enthusiast sites and do the research .
Feb 11, 2021 01:26 PM
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RedmontFeb 11, 2021 01:26 PM
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Quote from Bombebomb :
I am unsure why att would be better than verizon if they have towers in the same places. Both use 700mhz for there lowest frequencies.
it has nothing to do with the differing technologies but is a matter of corporate policies. Att has an RV program . Verizon doesn't as far as I know and from what I have read Verizon has even gone further and taken steps to keep non-cell phone users off of the towers . But I have not researched this intensely in the last 2 years so maybe things have changed at Verizon
Feb 11, 2021 01:31 PM
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southsidejFeb 11, 2021 01:31 PM
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So, it looks like the dish points (mostly) straight up. Anybody on beta know what happens when it fills up with snow? Will I need to climb onto the roof and clean it to restore service like with my sat tv dish?

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Feb 11, 2021 01:37 PM
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VIPFeb 11, 2021 01:37 PM
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Quote from KypMadak :
HAHAHAHAHAHA. I'm 1/4 a mile from the nearest line for high speed internet. They won't run it to my house. I asked them if they would if I paid. You know how much they wanted? $10,000. TEN THOUSAND farkING DOLLARS.

You don't know what you're talking about, and it's very obvious.
Yup, clueless. In many/most places, those small communities are not allowed by law to deploy municipal broadband.

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