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Starlink is now taking $99 deposits to reserve a spot in line when the service comes available. Service dates: mid to late 2021.

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Starlink is now taking $99 deposits to reserve a spot in line when the service comes available. Service dates: mid to late 2021.

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GB: https://www.starlink.com/legal/te...ionCode=GB

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Feb 14, 2021 08:48 PM
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tmarketFeb 14, 2021 08:48 PM
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Quote from Nutdotnet :
Exactly. While not enough to make good business sense, thousands who live in Alaska have terrible, terrible, internet options.

This will put them all out of business overnight. I'd be pretty concerned if I was a local ISP, putting millions of dollars (from federal contracting and related), to see the real possibility of going belly up.
Musk's business model for Stalink is not really to serve the most rural areas such as Alaska, at least not initially, instead Starlink is looking at rural and even suburban customers in the continental US where there are more customers to be had. The current Starlink satellites in polar orbit that are able to serve Alaska is not even 10% of the total service 'polar planes' of what is required and that situation is not likely to improve for a while.

'Dropped from an orbital altitude of ~1200 km (~750 mi) to 560 km (~350 mi), the ten Starlink satellites SpaceX now has permission to launch on Transporter-1 likely represent less than 20% of one polar 'plane' of Starlink satellites. In simpler terms, those ten satellites will only be capable of supporting a very limited test of polar Starlink internet, likely resulting in intermittent, unreliable coverage that won't be viable for civil use until the FCC permits SpaceX to launch one or several full planes.'
Feb 14, 2021 09:02 PM
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Feb 14, 2021 09:18 PM
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John1002kFeb 14, 2021 09:18 PM
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Quote from binoo0324 :
What is benefit of this vs my current service with Comcast(100mbps/$50)?
This isn't meant for you. Meant for people out in the country. Like my parents cabin In Amish country. They have no cell phone service. Only landline with no high speed internet options.
Feb 14, 2021 10:06 PM
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LEOMHK1.0Feb 14, 2021 10:06 PM
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Quote from Jaggsta :
$100 for internet just as bad as cable companies.
Well, I think this is for people in isolated areas that cannot get service from cable or DSL/VDSL companies.

It'll compete with Satellite Internet access companies like Viasat and HughesNet. Which can be slow, have small data caps and on top can be very expensive.
Feb 15, 2021 01:06 AM
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Feb 15, 2021 01:09 AM
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BrianJasonFeb 15, 2021 01:09 AM
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Quote from itsallaboutthemusic :
as a mobile internet user (i lived in a large rv with my family twice, moving constantly), i can tell you that this (for the price) is outrageously bad. mobile internet through a sim card/router solution is available in the vast majority of the country now, at 4g lte and soon 5g speeds, which suffice for anything but the most hardcore users. hardware is under $200. monthly service can for certain match this price point. you can use it in motion or fixed, and will NOT need a clear view of the sky, or have any problems with satellite connectivity. the reason starlink is of interest to people is ONLY DUE TO MUSK'S CULT OF PERSONALITY (and possibly ignorance to the alternatives that are available TODAY). if musk takes this to the 3rd world, at a price they can afford, i will retract this entire statement.
You live in an RV.
Feb 15, 2021 01:15 AM
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brackisFeb 15, 2021 01:15 AM
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Quote from Nutdotnet :
Exactly. While not enough to make good business sense, thousands who live in Alaska have terrible, terrible, internet options.

This will put them all out of business overnight. I'd be pretty concerned if I was a local ISP, putting millions of dollars (from federal contracting and related), to see the real possibility of going belly up.
Except that Starlink received a massive government subsidy to provide such service and these quoted promotional betatest prices do not prove to be profitable in the slightest.
This is all stunt marketing to get on the military industrial godcomplex gravytrain by Elon Musk as he tries to gun for wealth and control.

There are numerous companies around the world funded by their respective governments putting Low Earth Orbit sats up to provide internet. It's not secret exclusive SpaceX tech. This is little more than a telecom arms race between billionaires and/or governments, and their respective tribes/cults.

These links/threads are little more that recruitment tools to see where they may get a useless concentration of early-adopter fanbois who they can provide service and get them to promote it online. The $99 price is completely arbitrary and most telesat projects cost enormous amounts of money.
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Feb 15, 2021 01:19 AM
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GreenClass3603Feb 15, 2021 01:19 AM
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Why does everybody not see the real reason behind those satellites?
Providing Internet access is just the front for something else
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Feb 15, 2021 04:18 AM
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AshvinsFeb 15, 2021 04:18 AM
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I wonder what provisions are being made for equipment servicing and support?
Feb 15, 2021 04:34 AM
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phatkrazyFeb 15, 2021 04:34 AM
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If you live in rural area can you afford 100/mo internet with 500 down payment on stalink dish?
I'm no hillbillies but, internet is for the devil.... LOL
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Feb 15, 2021 08:17 AM
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biswaskoFeb 15, 2021 08:17 AM
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Quote from MaximaPolak :
It's low but that's before the full rollout of 100 gigabits/sec
It's true, agreed. I look at it as a way to fund the project initially and say fark you to Comcast. Prices will eventually drop in time as they scale and competitors enter the market.
Feb 15, 2021 01:29 PM
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Cow_ranchFeb 15, 2021 01:29 PM
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Quote from itsallaboutthemusic :
as a mobile internet user (i lived in a large rv with my family twice, moving constantly), i can tell you that this (for the price) is outrageously bad. mobile internet through a sim card/router solution is available in the vast majority of the country now, at 4g lte and soon 5g speeds, which suffice for anything but the most hardcore users. hardware is under $200. monthly service can for certain match this price point. you can use it in motion or fixed, and will NOT need a clear view of the sky, or have any problems with satellite connectivity. the reason starlink is of interest to people is ONLY DUE TO MUSK'S CULT OF PERSONALITY (and possibly ignorance to the alternatives that are available TODAY). if musk takes this to the 3rd world, at a price they can afford, i will retract this entire statement.
As a rural internet user, who always had capped plans until '18 and never had land options other than capped dialup, and who frequents a number of rural internet forums, I can tell you, the plans you mention aren't available everywhere. Sure, some cell providers provide home internet options, but not everywhere. Most direct and legit plans aren't sufficient. No national cell provider in over 150 miles of my location offers home internet plans with no or high caps, even though they do in some other areas. 5G? Most rural areas are/will be low band, currently and for the foreseeable future not a noticeable difference compared to 4G, in range or speed, much of the time. I'm 150 miles from any type of 5G, currently. Verizon is the only practical carrier, Tmobile is 50 miles, ATT would require removing MANY, MANY trees plus the booster to get a reliable signal at only 6 miles from their tower (and no home internet there, no home alternative other than the $20 ipad plan and a workaround). The only real practical plan/service that wouldn't require a lot of work here, is Visible, if not for the discontinued plan I have. Other than shady resellers that charge more than $100, and are mostly selling plans against their terms (like corporate plans, etc.), that's why they get their plans shut off (like Nomad for instance).

Post a Verizon plan that works for home internet, is widely available, and has no caps or streaming limits for at or under $100. The other carriers, despite what their maps say (and Verizon too in some extent), don't cover all the areas their maps say they do.

Quote from phatkrazy :
If you live in rural area can you afford 100/mo internet with 500 down payment on stalink dish?
I'm no hillbillies but, internet is for the devil.... LOL
Users of current satellite internet already pay an average of $123/month with limits. Cheapest Viasat plan in my zip is $110 (with the lease fee), don't see 5Mbps with that very often, streaming is limited to 360p, and 35GB before well under 1Mbps. DSL in and near the village, cheapest is $85 and it can't stream audio reliably. Equipment for cell can approach a high chunk of that $500 (antenna, possible booster, jetpack/modem), plus the expensive plans in many cases (often with limits.
Last edited by Cow_ranch February 15, 2021 at 05:31 AM.
Feb 15, 2021 03:10 PM
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FavreroxFeb 15, 2021 03:10 PM
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Rural NW Wisconsin here. Just trialed Starlink last week and saw 50-80 Mbps down/ 30+ up. Ping was around 20-30ms. My family had signed up with Verizon as they had strong coverage around the area. Bandwidth was typically high teens, low 20s Mbps. My personal Redpocket plan was often "faster" in the 20-30 range. Obviously towers are at/over capacity in our area and VZN can't consistently deliver.
Starlink wins hands down. Until cellular rollout is hitting 100+Mbps, my money is on Starlink.
Feb 16, 2021 04:16 AM
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airlineguyFeb 16, 2021 04:16 AM
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Feb 16, 2021 04:18 AM
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mser4funFeb 16, 2021 04:18 AM
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Would this work in other countries?

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