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QNAP TS-453D 4-Bay Professional Desktop NAS Enclosure $429

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Feb 23, 2021 12:40 PM
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ionizerFeb 23, 2021 12:40 PM
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How is this one?
Feb 23, 2021 06:25 PM
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PawPawDogFeb 23, 2021 06:25 PM
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Quote from ionizer :
How is this one?
I have the 253D and pretty happy about it. Upgraded to 8GB and using NVME as system drive. Runs QVR Pro as security camera NVR, beats any NVR cost up to $200. 2.5GbE Ethernet works Well, file transfer is fast but that of course depends on the disks you use.
Feb 23, 2021 10:52 PM
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ionizerFeb 23, 2021 10:52 PM
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Quote from PawPawDog :
I have the 253D and pretty happy about it. Upgraded to 8GB and using NVME as system drive. Runs QVR Pro as security camera NVR, beats any NVR cost up to $200. 2.5GbE Ethernet works Well, file transfer is fast but that of course depends on the disks you use.
interesting, so you're saying this is natively running a security camera system for you.

I was actually looking into NVRs as the current one i got from lorex sucks balls and will seemingly only work with lorex cameras. i tried to put an armcrest camera into the POE and while it sees it, it wont show me any video even after establishing all the basic credentials with the armcrest camera

so help me understand your setup

you got multiple POE cameras throughout the house and then you got them all going into a POE switch and then you have that tied into the QNAP or does the POE switch just go into your normal non-poe switch and the QNAP is part of that network?

just trying to understand the architecture or if the QNAP ports are both used - one for having the Video security system on its own network via the Switch+QVR Pro and the other to tie into your lan or if you just have the security cameras on your LAN.

please let me know!
Feb 24, 2021 12:15 AM
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PawPawDogFeb 24, 2021 12:15 AM
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Quote from ionizer :
interesting, so you're saying this is natively running a security camera system for you.

I was actually looking into NVRs as the current one i got from lorex sucks balls and will seemingly only work with lorex cameras. i tried to put an armcrest camera into the POE and while it sees it, it wont show me any video even after establishing all the basic credentials with the armcrest camera

so help me understand your setup

you got multiple POE cameras throughout the house and then you got them all going into a POE switch and then you have that tied into the QNAP or does the POE switch just go into your normal non-poe switch and the QNAP is part of that network?

just trying to understand the architecture or if the QNAP ports are both used - one for having the Video security system on its own network via the Switch+QVR Pro and the other to tie into your lan or if you just have the security cameras on your LAN.

please let me know!
I actually has two mesh network in My home. One for the security cameras and IoTs. The other one is the actual home network.

The security cameras are connected to several POE switches that are in turns connected to mesh nodes. Running all Ethernet cables to a single point doesn't make sense to me.

The QNAP for security camera and files I want to share is connected to the mesh router on that network. I have other QNAP for internal network.

In addition to the ONVIF cameras that are connected to the QNAP, I also have several Ring and Wyze cameras on that network for redundancy.

I have not setup the QNAP as bridge yet but may try that as I like to make use of the extra 2.5GbE port. I may break up the IoTs to another network by using the extra port.

To me the 253D is no more expensive than a capable NVR. I can control full PTZ and look at the recordings. My PTZs are mostly 5M with one 8M. Most of the sub $200 NVR I tried crashes or discount frequently once I connected more than 3 or 4 cameras. The 253D handles all 12 (8 for QVR Pro and 4 Surveillance Station) without problem although the Surveillance Station is not as good as the QVR Pro.
Feb 24, 2021 01:05 AM
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ionizerFeb 24, 2021 01:05 AM
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Quote from PawPawDog :
I actually has two mesh network in My home. One for the security cameras and IoTs. The other one is the actual home network.

The security cameras are connected to several POE switches that are in turns connected to mesh nodes. Running all Ethernet cables to a single point doesn't make sense to me.

The QNAP for security camera and files I want to share is connected to the mesh router on that network. I have other QNAP for internal network.

In addition to the ONVIF cameras that are connected to the QNAP, I also have several Ring and Wyze cameras on that network for redundancy.

I have not setup the QNAP as bridge yet but may try that as I like to make use of the extra 2.5GbE port. I may break up the IoTs to another network by using the extra port.

To me the 253D is no more expensive than a capable NVR. I can control full PTZ and look at the recordings. My PTZs are mostly 5M with one 8M. Most of the sub $200 NVR I tried crashes or discount frequently once I connected more than 3 or 4 cameras. The 253D handles all 12 (8 for QVR Pro and 4 Surveillance Station) without problem although the Surveillance Station is not as good as the QVR Pro.
just to be clear, you have a QNAP, 253D (celeron processor w/ 8gb of ram) and it is able to handle running recordings from 8 POE cameras (ranging in 2MP-5MP) and no issues?

when you had only 4gb of ram in it (if you did), did it also run ok?
Feb 24, 2021 02:49 AM
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PawPawDogFeb 24, 2021 02:49 AM
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Quote from ionizer :
just to be clear, you have a QNAP, 253D (celeron processor w/ 8gb of ram) and it is able to handle running recordings from 8 POE cameras (ranging in 2MP-5MP) and no issues?

when you had only 4gb of ram in it (if you did), did it also run ok?
Yes. I have 8 POE camera(actually they are not all POE, but I use splitter to made them POE), 2 2M, 5 5M and 1 8M camera running on QVR Pro PLUS 4
2M on Surveillance Station with 8GB. I didn't try on 4GB as I ordered the RAM at same time and ran 8 GB on day one. Typical RAM load is around 40-50%. Depends how they swap the RAM, 4GB may or may not be taxing for 12 cameras, but 8 should be fine.

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