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I can back this up. My last TV was a Sony xbr65x850d and was a good TV for the first year, than after an update the smart TV functions were basically broken. Update after update they just got worse causing me to purchase an nvidia sheild. Now you might think that this was a one off situation but I have a friend that had a Sony I can't remember exactly his model but it was a 900 something or other and he basically had the same exact experience that I had. Seems to me that Sony breaks their own products to maybe get you to upgrade.... Well I'm not sure but I will probably never buy another Sony TV again. I have since moved on to a LG 77"c9 oled and am extremely happy with my TV.
Thank you. The xbr's have huge issues. But Irrelevant. No crying when main board goes...
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If you gonna go for an OLED tv then Sony is an ok option hmmm hmmm buuuuttttttt👌 there are some issue with the hdmi port being 2.0 instead of having a 2.1 also there is better OLED option like LG OLED the CX or GX is definitely a great buy if you planning to just drop 3k plus on a solid TV just saying to put it out there LG oled tv does support 2.1
There is no issue being 2.0. barely any tech is utilizing 2.1. is it it nice? For some. It is necessary? For some, but for me, I don't give a shit about it.
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That said, if you need now, or don't want to pay the new tv premium, the older A9G for a good price is worth it if you're viewing pattern aligns.
Yeah, I tend to wait until the next model is available, or at least on the horizon, in order to get good deals on the outgoing model. In fact, I was originally planning to get a C9, and was pleased when the A9G got so affordable. But, it will be interesting to see how the upcoming 2021 OLEDs perform.
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There is no issue being 2.0. barely any tech is utilizing 2.1. is it it nice? For some. It is necessary? For some, but for me, I don't give a shit about it.
If you don't give a shit about newest tech buy a cheap tv don't spend 4k........ On old technology.......
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If you don't give a shit about newest tech buy a cheap tv don't spend 4k........ On old technology.......
You completely missed the point. It's not being widely utilized, why would that be a selling point? Its like someone telling me to buy an 8k tv right now with hardly any content for it. But not surprised coming from people that hype up 2.1 hdmi.
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If you don't give a shit about newest tech buy a cheap tv don't spend 4k........ On old technology.......
As a general principle, it only makes sense to pay a premium for technology you intend to use.

In this case, a 2019/20-era OLED TV is still going to provide a better picture quality for a variety of available content than any other available type of TV at the moment. As I assume most here know, that is fundamentally because OLED panels allow each individual pixel to be turned off, which allows for contrast ratios and black details that the other available panel technologies cannot achieve.

Now, it is true another generation of OLED TVs are scheduled to come out this year (2021), and they might well surpass 2019/20 OLED TVs in terms of picture quality. But very likely, they will cost quite a bit more for an extended period of time. And therefore that is a judgment call whether or not to wait a bit and pay a premium, or pay less of a premium but wait longer, or just pull the trigger now on 2019/20 OLED TVs selling at a significant discount from initial pricing.

HDMI 2.1 is a different new technology with different purposes. It is extremely unlikely HDMI 2.1 will be relevant to 4K movie and television content any time soon, if ever. So, if someone mostly used their TV for movie and television content, paying a premium for HDMI 2.1, or alternatively choosing a TV with a slightly less preferred picture quality profile simply because it has HDMI 2.1, might not make much sense.

Or it might. It all depends on the uses to which you intend to put your TV.
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If you gonna go for an OLED tv then Sony is an ok option hmmm hmmm buuuuttttttt👌 there are some issue with the hdmi port being 2.0 instead of having a 2.1 also there is better OLED option like LG OLED the CX or GX is definitely a great buy if you planning to just drop 3k plus on a solid TV just saying to put it out there LG oled tv does support 2.1
It's the same exact OLED as LG CX. LG has a patent on OLED tech and they manufacture Sony's OLED screens as well.

LG CX offers hdmi 2.1 which is good if you'll use the tv for gamin.
Song has better UI/UX in my opinion.

So my take is: gaming? -> LG, otherwise Sony assuming it's cheaper.
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For the people talking about next gen OLED in the works and improvements, I'm curious what's expected or confirmed. I was under the impression the OLED, great as it is, has basically plateaued, which is why there has been so little change the last few years.

On price, I was hoping the new LG factories under construction were going to bring down OLED costs the next couple years - that would be pretty sweet if it happens.
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For the people talking about next gen OLED in the works and improvements, I'm curious what's expected or confirmed. I was under the impression the OLED, great as it is, has basically plateaued, which is why there has been so little change the last few years.

On price, I was hoping the new LG factories under construction were going to bring down OLED costs the next couple years - that would be pretty sweet if it happens.
As great as OLED is now, it definitely hasn't plateaued. On the contrary, it's just getting started. If you want to see some truly mind-bending, "The future is here!!" type stuff, look up roll-up OLED TV. Or better yet, Razer's insane prototype gaming chair "Project Brooklyn," with a foldout, roll-up OLED TV.

The biggest problems seems to be the manufacturing costs, and getting it down and to a scale that makes it affordable for us mere mortals. But remember, it was only a little over 4 years ago when the first 77" OLED's were released, and cost over 25K$ on the street :-)
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As great as OLED is now, it definitely hasn't plateaued. On the contrary, it's just getting started. If you want to see some truly mind-bending, "The future is here!!" type stuff, look up roll-up OLED TV. Or better yet, Razer's insane prototype gaming chair "Project Brooklyn," with a foldout, roll-up OLED TV.

The biggest problems seems to be the manufacturing costs, and getting it down and to a scale that makes it affordable for us mere mortals. But remember, it was only a little over 4 years ago when the first 77" OLED's were released, and cost over 25K$ on the street :-)
Oh yeah, I've seen the roll up display and it's super cool. But everything I've seen seems to be about cool form factors, and not improvements in some areas where LCDs have advantages (brightness, etc)
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geezeefosheezee For the people talking about next gen OLED in the works and improvements, I'm curious what's expected or confirmed. I was under the impression the OLED, great as it is, has basically plateaued, which is why there has been so little change the last few years.
So the top-level 2021 OLEDs are reportedly going to have higher peak brightness, useful for HDR highlights and such.

Sony and LG are both going to be offering 83-inch models, although I don't think LG is doing that in their new brighter model line (the G1).

Those are probably the main things that might significantly influence viewing experience. I think there are also upgraded processors and some new processing tricks, but that kind of stuff was happening during what I agree was otherwise a plateau period for the panels themselves.
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I know, it's not 4k, but I've been using a 65" Plasma I got for $200 off Craigslist and I just can't stomach the kind of money the big OLED's command.

Maybe one day, but for now my Plasma is wonderful for me.
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I know, it's not 4k, but I've been using a 65" Plasma I got for $200 off Craigslist and I just can't stomach the kind of money the big OLED's command.

Maybe one day, but for now my Plasma is wonderful for me.
So I still have my beloved 64-inch plasma, and it is still great for 1080p SDR content up to about a 30 degree field of view. In 65 inches, 30 degrees would be up to around 8.8 feet away.

But . . . for a really immersive, cinema-type experience, I find something in the 36-40 degree field of view range is optimal. Note that to get to 36 degrees with a 77 inch TV, you need to be at 8.6 feet.

And there is just no doubt in my experience that 4K is significantly better in that 36-40 field of view range than 1080p (including 720P or 1080p upscaled to 4K). Which in fact is really the whole point of 4K in my view.

I am also now a believer in HDR (and the often-associated wider color gamut (WCG), including in combination). My plasma is still very strong on the black end and in terms of gamut, but it does not have the peak brightness to make use of HDR/WCG content (which is a moot point since I don't believe they ever made plasma TVs which could decode and map HDR content anyway).

So, I do think a 1080p 65 inch plasma just can't do what a 4K 77 inch OLED can do when it comes to providing a cinema-type experience, even more so when you are talking about HDR/WCG content.

But is unlocking that sort of viewing experience worth the cost? That's a personal decision, obviously, but I for one watch a lot of relevant content and I definitely do not regret making the change. And I think that is a pretty common experience, including for people not doing the plasma-to-OLED path in particular: once you have stepped up to the fields of view you can reasonably achieve with a 4K 77 inch (or higher) TV, it becomes clear to most they would not want to go back.
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wow...great price on what is arguably the best TV on the market right now


However...not an authorized Sony dealer though
Here we go again...
First it was only LG OLED TVs and now it's occurring with Sony OLED TVs


I'm going to collect all the threads dealing with "OLED TVs authorized seller" issue and mass post them every time someone comments about a seller not being an authorized seller.
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So I still have my beloved 64-inch plasma, and it is still great for 1080p SDR content up to about a 30 degree field of view. In 65 inches, 30 degrees would be up to around 8.8 feet away.

But . . . for a really immersive, cinema-type experience, I find something in the 36-40 degree field of view range is optimal. Note that to get to 36 degrees with a 77 inch TV, you need to be at 8.6 feet.

And there is just no doubt in my experience that 4K is significantly better in that 36-40 field of view range than 1080p (including 720P or 1080p upscaled to 4K). Which in fact is really the whole point of 4K in my view.

I am also now a believer in HDR (and the often-associated wider color gamut (WCG), including in combination). My plasma is still very strong on the black end and in terms of gamut, but it does not have the peak brightness to make use of HDR/WCG content (which is a moot point since I don't believe they ever made plasma TVs which could decode and map HDR content anyway).

So, I do think a 1080p 65 inch plasma just can't do what a 4K 77 inch OLED can do when it comes to providing a cinema-type experience, even more so when you are talking about HDR/WCG content.

But is unlocking that sort of viewing experience worth the cost? That's a personal decision, obviously, but I for one watch a lot of relevant content and I definitely do not regret making the change. And I think that is a pretty common experience, including for people not doing the plasma-to-OLED path in particular: once you have stepped up to the fields of view you can reasonably achieve with a 4K 77 inch (or higher) TV, it becomes clear to most they would not want to go back.
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I know, it's not 4k, but I've been using a 65" Plasma I got for $200 off Craigslist and I just can't stomach the kind of money the big OLED's command.

Maybe one day, but for now my Plasma is wonderful for me.
I have always wonder about people still rocking plasma TVs.
How's the brightness.
Plasma had great picture quality with deep blacks but.... brand new, right out of the box. The brightness level was OK which meant it only had down hill to go....
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