I got this 77in Sony oled for $1600 delivered and whoever is second guessing if oled technology inferior hasn't had one in living room.
I've had Sony x940e 75in before this and it was the king of whites and 256 zones local dimming to near perfection. But this is absolutely king of blacks + colors
One thing does bother me with oled is blacks are absolute blacks with DV or HDR content with lights on but for $1600, I got a steal
I have Xbox Series X hooked up to oled and no gaming enjoyment issues.
I got this 77in Sony oled for $1600 delivered and whoever is second guessing if oled technology inferior hasn't had one in living room.
I've had Sony x940e 75in before this and it was the king of whites and 256 zones local dimming to near perfection. But this is absolutely king of blacks + colors
I have Xbox Series X hooked up to oled and no gaming enjoyment issues.
post some pics along with picture of your screen name cause nobody believes you and is tired of you trolling every OLED tv thread
I can back this up. My last TV was a Sony xbr65x850d and was a good TV for the first year, than after an update the smart TV functions were basically broken. Update after update they just got worse causing me to purchase an nvidia sheild. Now you might think that this was a one off situation but I have a friend that had a Sony I can't remember exactly his model but it was a 900 something or other and he basically had the same exact experience that I had. Seems to me that Sony breaks their own products to maybe get you to upgrade.... Well I'm not sure but I will probably never buy another Sony TV again. I have since moved on to a LG 77"c9 oled and am extremely happy with my TV.
For some reason the XBR 850 series from the last 5 years have had great picture quality but did not last long... it was as if they had built-in self-destruct timers.
2016: I bought a Sony KDL-65W850C which was one of the best and last 1080p TVs.
Great picture quality, inky blacks and with SD and HD 720p/1080) content it actually looked better than 4K TVs.
It was rarely used and less than two years it went tits up.
Sony did not care and informed me that I should've not expected for a TV to last longer than 2 years.
*The latest Sony 800/700 series are just cheap junk not worth buying.
Here we go again...
First it was only LG OLED TVs and now it's occurring with Sony OLED TVs
I'm going to collect all the threads dealing with "OLED TVs authorized seller" issue and mass post them every time someone comments about a seller not being an authorized seller.
Perhaps you need to read up
Sony's manufacturer's warranty is quite a bit different than LG's
For some reason the XBR 850 series from the last 5 years have had great picture quality but did not last long... it was as if they had built-in self-destruct timers.
2016: I bought a Sony KDL-65W850C which was one of the best and last 1080p TVs.
Great picture quality, inky blacks and with SD and HD 720p/1080) content it actually looked better than 4K TVs.
It was rarely used and less than two years it went tits up.
Sony did not care and informed me that I should've not expected for a TV to last longer than 2 years.
*The latest Sony 800/700 series are just cheap junk not worth buying.
Interesting...and I guess that is your specific experience with one specific TV
I have a Sony Z9D from 2016 and I think its a great Tv
In fact I still would say its at the best of the best, over all, in terms of LCD TV's..ever
Inky blacks , almost record breaking brightness, great panel uniformity and picture processing/ local dimming functionality
For an LCD, the shadow detail is phenomenal
The only downgrade I would give it is some blooming on a dark screen with bright objects...but I really only notice that if I am coming directly from my OLED to watch the Z9D
And I guess most importantly it has worked like a dream
I think I still have a few months left on the 5 year best Buy geek Squad extended warranty
Interesting...and I guess that is your specific experience with one specific TV
I have a Sony Z9D from 2016 and I think its a great Tv
In fact I still would say its at the best of the best, over all, in terms of LCD TV's..ever
Inky blacks , almost record breaking brightness, great panel uniformity and picture processing/ local dimming functionality
For an LCD, the shadow detail is phenomenal
The only downgrade I would give it is some blooming on a dark screen with bright objects...but I really only notice that if I am coming directly from my OLED to watch the Z9D
And I guess most importantly it has worked like a dream
I think I still have a few months left on the 5 year best Buy geek Squad extended warranty
Not in the same league....
Sony Z9 Series has been Sony's flagship TV, it has been higher quality with an accompany premium price than the models that I mentioned.
I have always wonder about people still rocking plasma TVs.
How's the brightness.
Plasma had great picture quality with deep blacks but.... brand new, right out of the box the brightness was OK which meant it only had down hill to go....
So I didn't NOTICE any decrease in brightness over the years, but that doesn't mean it didn't happen. I note I was never really testing the limits because I had it set for dark room watching, and was able to darken the room as needed.
And yeah, I am pretty sure if rtings tested my plasma even brand new, let alone now, they would give it extremely poor scores for peak brightness by today's standards. But to me, this is more a lessen in why peak brightness per se doesn't matter to me so much, at least for SDR watching. I do understand how it applies to HDR content, at least in theory, but for SDR? I'm apparently fine with darkening the room and then enjoying high contrast ratios, which is really more a function of the blacks than the peak brightness in such viewing circumstances.
And I am doing the same thing now with my OLED--when I am serious about watching something, I have the room dark and the OLED set for dark room watching.
Relevant to this thread, I am therefore a little skeptical the new brighter OLEDs coming out in 2021 would actually make a huge difference to me. Again, maybe in a few HDR scenarios, but it will be interesting to see if it otherwise makes much difference to other people who like to watch TV like me.
Not in the same league....
Sony Z9 Series has been Sony's flagship TV, it has been higher quality with an accompany premium price than the models that I mentioned.
I would say your failure experience with a Sony TV was more individual to you than anything else
So I didn't NOTICE any decrease in brightness over the years, but that doesn't mean it didn't happen. I note I was never really testing the limits because I had it set for dark room watching, and was able to darken the room as needed.
And yeah, I am pretty sure if rtings tested my plasma even brand new, let alone now, they would give it extremely poor scores for peak brightness by today's standards. But to me, this is more a lessen in why peak brightness per se doesn't matter to me so much, at least for SDR watching. I do understand how it applies to HDR content, at least in theory, but for SDR? I'm apparently fine with darkening the room and then enjoying high contrast ratios, which is really more a function of the blacks than the peak brightness in such viewing circumstances.
And I am doing the same thing now with my OLED--when I am serious about watching something, I have the room dark and the OLED set for dark room watching.
Relevant to this thread, I am therefore a little skeptical the new brighter OLEDs coming out in 2021 would actually make a huge difference to me. Again, maybe in a few HDR scenarios, but it will be interesting to see if it otherwise makes much difference to other people who like to watch TV like me.
I used to own a Samsung F8500 some years ago before I bought an OLED
I never noticed that the F8500 grew dimmer...understanding that both plasma and OLED will indeed grow dimmer over time. I do think that time is more than 8 years with the TV being on for 24 hours a day though...
I was fine with the F8500 and I think it could hit 500 nits...which is brighter than most of the LCDs you see here on slick deals...keep that in mind
I used to own a Samsung F8500 some years ago before I bought an OLED
I never noticed that the F8500 grew dimmer...understanding that both plasma and OLED will indeed grow dimmer over time. I do think that time is more than 8 years with the TV being on for 24 hours a day though...
I was fine with the F8500 and I think it could hit 500 nits...which is brighter than most of the LCDs you see here on slick deals...keep that in mind
O yeah? I got a Sony X940E that could hit 1181nits
Yes, if you are planning to do cutting-edge gaming with this TV, you might want to go with the 2020 LG models (CX or GX), or wait for the 2021 Sonys (although those will likely be more expensive for some time), in order to get HDMI 2.1.
However, I recently went with this A9G, because it is very unlikely HDMI 2.1 will be relevant to the movie/TV content I watch. And I had a slight preference for the way Sony handles my sort of content over LG (the panels are coming from the same source, but the way the companies process signals and drive the panels is a bit different).
Sony does have better processing but I think LG's WebOS interface is some of the best. I don't know if Sony has changed their OS from Android. My last Sony smart TV was from 2017 and the OS is horrendous.
Sony does have better processing but I think LG's WebOS interface is some of the best. I don't know if Sony has changed their OS from Android. My last Sony smart TV was from 2017 and the OS is horrendous.
It was still Android on this model. I personally use a Fire Cube, so it is mostly irrelevant. And Fire TV is a variant of Android TV anyway, so I am used to it.
It was still Android on this model. I personally use a Fire Cube, so it is mostly irrelevant. And Fire TV is a variant of Android TV anyway, so I am used to it.
I hate Google os
Infact I use firetv 4k stick paired with my echo studio and setup is golden for watching movies content
I've actually found TV does better sharpening processing thru hdmi feed vs native apps. Go figure
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I've had Sony x940e 75in before this and it was the king of whites and 256 zones local dimming to near perfection. But this is absolutely king of blacks + colors
One thing does bother me with oled is blacks are absolute blacks with DV or HDR content with lights on
I have Xbox Series X hooked up to oled and no gaming enjoyment issues.
I've had Sony x940e 75in before this and it was the king of whites and 256 zones local dimming to near perfection. But this is absolutely king of blacks + colors
I have Xbox Series X hooked up to oled and no gaming enjoyment issues.
2016: I bought a Sony KDL-65W850C which was one of the best and last 1080p TVs.
Great picture quality, inky blacks and with SD and HD 720p/1080) content it actually looked better than 4K TVs.
It was rarely used and less than two years it went tits up.
Sony did not care and informed me that I should've not expected for a TV to last longer than 2 years.
*The latest Sony 800/700 series are just cheap junk not worth buying.
First it was only LG OLED TVs and now it's occurring with Sony OLED TVs
I'm going to collect all the threads dealing with "OLED TVs authorized seller" issue and mass post them every time someone comments about a seller not being an authorized seller.
Perhaps you need to read up
Sony's manufacturer's warranty is quite a bit different than LG's
Dont mistake one for the other
But hey call Sony and see what they say...
2016: I bought a Sony KDL-65W850C which was one of the best and last 1080p TVs.
Great picture quality, inky blacks and with SD and HD 720p/1080) content it actually looked better than 4K TVs.
It was rarely used and less than two years it went tits up.
Sony did not care and informed me that I should've not expected for a TV to last longer than 2 years.
*The latest Sony 800/700 series are just cheap junk not worth buying.
I have a Sony Z9D from 2016 and I think its a great Tv
In fact I still would say its at the best of the best, over all, in terms of LCD TV's..ever
Inky blacks , almost record breaking brightness, great panel uniformity and picture processing/ local dimming functionality
For an LCD, the shadow detail is phenomenal
The only downgrade I would give it is some blooming on a dark screen with bright objects...but I really only notice that if I am coming directly from my OLED to watch the Z9D
And I guess most importantly it has worked like a dream
I think I still have a few months left on the 5 year best Buy geek Squad extended warranty
I have a Sony Z9D from 2016 and I think its a great Tv
In fact I still would say its at the best of the best, over all, in terms of LCD TV's..ever
Inky blacks , almost record breaking brightness, great panel uniformity and picture processing/ local dimming functionality
For an LCD, the shadow detail is phenomenal
The only downgrade I would give it is some blooming on a dark screen with bright objects...but I really only notice that if I am coming directly from my OLED to watch the Z9D
And I guess most importantly it has worked like a dream
I think I still have a few months left on the 5 year best Buy geek Squad extended warranty
Sony Z9 Series has been Sony's flagship TV, it has been higher quality with an accompany premium price than the models that I mentioned.
How's the brightness.
Plasma had great picture quality with deep blacks but.... brand new, right out of the box the brightness was OK which meant it only had down hill to go....
And yeah, I am pretty sure if rtings tested my plasma even brand new, let alone now, they would give it extremely poor scores for peak brightness by today's standards. But to me, this is more a lessen in why peak brightness per se doesn't matter to me so much, at least for SDR watching. I do understand how it applies to HDR content, at least in theory, but for SDR? I'm apparently fine with darkening the room and then enjoying high contrast ratios, which is really more a function of the blacks than the peak brightness in such viewing circumstances.
And I am doing the same thing now with my OLED--when I am serious about watching something, I have the room dark and the OLED set for dark room watching.
Relevant to this thread, I am therefore a little skeptical the new brighter OLEDs coming out in 2021 would actually make a huge difference to me. Again, maybe in a few HDR scenarios, but it will be interesting to see if it otherwise makes much difference to other people who like to watch TV like me.
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Sony Z9 Series has been Sony's flagship TV, it has been higher quality with an accompany premium price than the models that I mentioned.
And yeah, I am pretty sure if rtings tested my plasma even brand new, let alone now, they would give it extremely poor scores for peak brightness by today's standards. But to me, this is more a lessen in why peak brightness per se doesn't matter to me so much, at least for SDR watching. I do understand how it applies to HDR content, at least in theory, but for SDR? I'm apparently fine with darkening the room and then enjoying high contrast ratios, which is really more a function of the blacks than the peak brightness in such viewing circumstances.
And I am doing the same thing now with my OLED--when I am serious about watching something, I have the room dark and the OLED set for dark room watching.
Relevant to this thread, I am therefore a little skeptical the new brighter OLEDs coming out in 2021 would actually make a huge difference to me. Again, maybe in a few HDR scenarios, but it will be interesting to see if it otherwise makes much difference to other people who like to watch TV like me.
I never noticed that the F8500 grew dimmer...understanding that both plasma and OLED will indeed grow dimmer over time. I do think that time is more than 8 years with the TV being on for 24 hours a day though...
I was fine with the F8500 and I think it could hit 500 nits...which is brighter than most of the LCDs you see here on slick deals...keep that in mind
I never noticed that the F8500 grew dimmer...understanding that both plasma and OLED will indeed grow dimmer over time. I do think that time is more than 8 years with the TV being on for 24 hours a day though...
I was fine with the F8500 and I think it could hit 500 nits...which is brighter than most of the LCDs you see here on slick deals...keep that in mind
beat that
beat that
As mentioned in this thread I own a Sony Z9D...1375 nits of brightness
https://www.rtings.com/tv/reviews/sony/z9d
I also own a Sony X930E...1442 nits of brightness
https://www.rtings.com/tv/reviews/sony/x930e
However, I recently went with this A9G, because it is very unlikely HDMI 2.1 will be relevant to the movie/TV content I watch. And I had a slight preference for the way Sony handles my sort of content over LG (the panels are coming from the same source, but the way the companies process signals and drive the panels is a bit different).
Sony does have better processing but I think LG's WebOS interface is some of the best. I don't know if Sony has changed their OS from Android. My last Sony smart TV was from 2017 and the OS is horrendous.
As mentioned in this thread I own a Sony Z9D...1375 nits of brightness
https://www.rtings.com/tv/reviews/sony/z9d
I also own a Sony X930E...1442 nits of brightness
https://www.rtings.com/tv/reviews/sony/x930e
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Infact I use firetv 4k stick paired with my echo studio and setup is golden for watching movies content
I've actually found TV does better sharpening processing thru hdmi feed vs native apps. Go figure