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Costco Wholesale has for its Members: MSI GE75 Raider Laptop (10SF-446) on sale for $1199.99. Shipping is $9.99 (you may visit any participating Costco retailers to save on shipping if available)

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Note: Must be logged into your Costco account w/ an active Costco Membership to purchase. Availability for store pickup may vary by location.

Specs:
  • 17.3" FHD (1920x1080) 144Hz 3ms IPS Display
  • 10th Gen Intel Core i7-10750H Processor
  • 16GB DDR4 2666MHz RAM
  • 512GB NVMe Solid State Drive + 1TB Hard Drive
  • NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2070 Graphics, 8GB
  • Intel Wi-Fi 6 201 (2x2) + Bluetooth® 5.1
  • Steel Series RGB Backlight Keyboard with Anti-Ghost Key + Silver Lining
  • Microsoft Windows 10 Home (64-bit)
  • Ports:
    • 1x USB Type-C 3.2 Gen 2 (10 Gbps)
    • 2x USB Type-A 3.2 Gen 1 (5 Gbps)
    • 1x USB Type-A 3.2 Gen 2 (10 Gbps)
    • 1x HDMI 4K
    • 1x Mini DisplayPort
    • 1x Card Reader SD, SDHC, SDXC
    • 1x Ethernet LAN Killer GB LAN
    • 1x Audio jack

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$99 accidental damage policy can't be beat. https://www.costco.com/allstate-3...58241.html

1. The fact that this is a Costco-sold laptop right away adds value with the 90 day returns + 2 year warranty.
2. 17.3" size ensures there is number pad
3. If you need one in the next couple of weeks, it's probably going to be a tight squeeze to get a 3060. IIRC, even some of the other best deals probably aren't shipping for 5 weeks or so.

Processor & Memory:

10th Gen Intel® Core™ i7-10750H Processor
16GB DDR4 2666MHz RAM

Drives:

1TB 5400RPM Hard Drive
512GB NVMe Solid State Drive
No Optical Drive

Operating System:

Microsoft® Windows 10 Home (64-bit)

Communications:

Intel Wi-Fi 6 201 (2x2) + Bluetooth® 5.1
Integrated 720P HD Webcam
Killer Gaming Network E3100 (10/100/1000 mbps) Ethernet LAN

Graphics & Video:

17.3" FHD (1920 x 1080) 144Hz 3ms 100% RGB Display
NVIDIA® GeForce RTX™ 2070 Graphics, 8GB

Audio:
2x 3W Giant Speakers + 2x 3W Subwoofer

Keyboard:
Steel Series RGB Backlight Keyboard with Anti-Ghost Key + Silver Lining

Ports & Slots:
1x USB 3.2 Gen2 Type-C
2x USB 3.2 Gen 1
1x USB 3.2 Gen 2
1x HDMI-Out
1x Media Card Reader
1x Mini-Display Port mDP v1.2
1x Ethernet Lan (10/100/1000 mbps)
1x Mic-In/Headphone-Out

Power Supply:
6-Cell 51Wh Li-ion Battery

Additional Information:
Dimensions: 14.17" x 10.23" x 0.91"
Approximate Weight: 5.73lbs
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Last Edited by RussianBytes March 27, 2021 at 08:11 AM
I. GET A LOWER EFFECTIVE PRICE
Get up to $90 with purchase on Costco.com with purchase using Chase Freedom Flex card - see below
Net effective cost is either $1140 ($1200 - $60), or $1226 ($1200 - $74), or $1210 ($1200 - $90)
YOU NEED TO ACTIVATE THE 5% BY MARCH 14 (AND I BELIEVE IT APPLIES ALSO TO RETROACTIVE PURCHASES ). WHILE CHASE FREEDOM FLEX, WHICH IS A MASTERCARD ISN'T ACCEPTED AT COSTCO STORE, IT IS ACCEPTED AT COSTO.COM!

Assuming you signed up for the 5X Chase Freedom Flex categories this quarter, you will get 5X points for your purchase on Costco.com. That's worth enough points to get $60 ($1200 times 5%) cash back. Subsequently, if you transfer these points earned to Chase Sapphire Reserve it becomes worth 50% more (i.e., $60 times 1.5 = $90) when claimed as reimbursement for travel or groceries on the the Reserve card. If you have the Chase Sapphire Preferred rather than Reserve, its worth 25% more or $74 ($60 times 1.25).
https://www.creditcards.com/credi...ategories/

II. BOOST YOUR PERFORMANCE
Quote from rruff :
I'll say it again. You can undervolt the processor a good amount: I boosted my 6 core performance 29%, and it runs cooler. You can basically make it as good as a Ryzen (or better) with no risk to hardware. You have total freedom to manipulate power, temperature, and noise to your liking. For instance it runs just as fast at 35W as it did at 45W stock. If I max out the fans and CPU I can run at ~68W and 91C and 4.3MHz on all cores forever.

Undervolting is locked out of most 10th gen CPUs, but MSI allows it. You need to enable it in the bios, and then use Throttlestop. Ryzen processors can't be undervolted.

4th time I've linked in this thread? https://www.techpowerup.com/forum...75.279412/

I'd never done anything like this before. It wasn't hard.
III. COMPARISON

ASUS ROG Strix G17 Laptop: i7-10750H, 17.3" 1080p 144Hz, 16GB , "RTX 2070 Super" ($1,500 at Walmart; was previously on sale in Dec 2020 for $1,300)

VS

MSI GE75 Laptop: i7-10750H, 17.3" 1080p 144Hz, 16GB , "RTX 2070" (non-super) [The one in this deal for $1,200]

Quote from netscorer :
I'm probably going to stick with MSI. Asus is faster and runs cooler, so it's a win, right? But MSI has more premium finish, brighter display, better keyboard, full RGB keyboard compared to zone RGB in ASUS, way more powerful speakers with added subwoofers, more ports, webcam, SD card slot, better management software ( I prefer MSI Dragon to Asus ROG center), smaller, lighter, cheaper and extra year of warranty.

Plus MSI BIOS allows undervolting and ASUS locked this in the July BIOS upgrade.

What ASUS does have in its favor is ability to set Nvidia GPU as the primary card, which adds another 2% to performance. MSI only has Optimus, which means video signal to laptop display always goes through Intel GPU even if Nvidia is running the show.

I'd say if you want raw graphics power, go with ASUS, no question. But if you want a better overall laptop, MSI GE75 Costco deal is the winner.
IV. PHYSICAL ASSESSMENT - FIRST IMPRESSION

Quote from iGeorge :
I just played with this at my local Costco. I didn't pull the trigger on the spot, but it seemed like they had plenty of them in stock in my store. My quick 5-10 minute impressions are below, but note, my Costco apparently doesn't connect any of their laptops to their internal wifi, so I couldn't even open google images or watch youtube to determine picture quality.

Screen - My biggest question is still how many nits does this goes up to. In store, it definitely felt more than 300 (my current laptop is around 250 nits, and I could tell this one was way brighter). Matte display on this was perfect to drown out the harsh factory lights in costco. Resolution of 1080p was fine, but I really wish it was 1440p. I have pretty good eye sight, and the text and icons felt a little too big for me (yes, I set the scaling to 100% on the demo unit). There were some stock pictures in the "photos" app that I looked at, and to be honest, colors looked pretty damn good, ESPECIALLY for viewing inside a damn harsh lit giant warehouse.Couldn't tell if there's backlight bleed on the demo unit, since you know, I can't request my costco to turn all lights off in the entire warehouse lol. I couldn't quite figure out how to view the LCD panel model number to google it once I got home (I tried device manager but couldn't see a specific model).

Keyboard - pretty cool seeing the RGB in person. The demo unit wasn't allowed to open dragon center (I clicked the icon, wouldn't open), so I couldn't really play around with colors too much (other than the HARDWARE button on top right of keyboard that flips a couple color modes). Windows key on the right of the space bar kept throwing me off, just muscle memory for me to click it on the left. This was a major annoyance for me honestly. Keys actually felt good IMO, travel was very nice. Font is a little "gamery". Yes, I toggled the hardware "max fan" button while playing with the demo unit, had to rev up that engine lol

Touchpad - Actually not bad, I was very surprised. I kept reading it's plastic (which it is), but it felt way smoother than my plastic Dell Inspiron one. Pretty smooth gliding, even on a germ infested demo unit that probably has been used and abused by people at Costco walking around eating the chicken bake rolls. Red accent around the touchpad is kind of wack, but in terms of touchpad, I was pleased. Physical keys under touchpad felt firm, solid clicking (unlike my dell latitude from work that's soft and mushy).

Build - Deff a tank IMO. Not extremely "T H I C C", but deff aint a macbook. Felt very solid, especially when closed. It's quite heavy (I tried picking the demo unit up as much as it would allow with the security wire), and I could deff tell it's hefty. Granted, you guys are all aware of this... Physical size isn't what I'd consider the standard, giant 17 inch laptop. It actually appeared a little bigger than a 15 inch laptop, but not a "17 inch laptop" so that was nice.

Hinges - I actually enjoyed the "stiff" feel of the hinge when opening and closing the laptop, it made the laptop feel sturdier to me. Don't know if that's squeezing the crap out of the LCD display or not, but the hinges being this "stiff" felt GOOD to me.

OS "Snappiness" - Moot point, since this demo unit was literally tied to a demo setting where I couldn't even open dragon center. Also, I looked at task manager, it has been on for over 10 days straight... Plus, since it's not on wifi, I guarantee you it wasn't up to date with latest drivers AND windows updates. Kind of a shame really, I hate seeing this type of beastly hardware neglected like that. There was some constant demo playing on the laptop, that when I viewed task manager, was literally using the cpu at 45%.

Overall feel - I didn't pull the trigger, but it's very tempting. I did confirm there's a "tamper seal" on the bottom of the laptop over a screw, so that's still something I'm concerned about (updating hardware aka breaking the seal, and god forbid having to return for a different issue and being given a hard time since you "opened" it). This would be my first "gamery" laptop, so I understand what comes with that. You can't expect macbook thinness and tolerance (tight seems, fit and finish), but I can't imagine how beastly this would be if you actually buy it, do all windows and driver updates, and even upgrade the RAM and SSD. Overall 5-10 minute demo in store, I'd say 4 out of 5 stars. Leaving out a star since I still don't know how the brightness and color of the display is in a normal bedroom setting and not a giant warehouse show floor.
V. WHY WATTS / TDP MATTER

Quote from rruff :
There is no such thing as "standard wattage" for 3000 series cards. 2000 series had MaxQ and "everything else" which narrowed it down a little.
----
3000 series cards have an optional feature whereby they can boost to a higher power level if the CPU demand is low. For instance the max on a 3060 is 115W-130W, where that extra 15W is the extra boost.

When RTX 2060 115 watts is used as a base (100%) for comparison:

3060@60W= 94%
3060@75 W = 100% (inserted by RussianBytes for MSI "GF75 Thin Gaming Laptop" RTX 3060 GPU for $1300 at COSTCO)
2060@115W= 100%
3060@90 W = 105% (75 Base Watts+15 watts boost, (inserted by RussianBytes MSI "GF75 Thin Gaming Laptop" RTX 3060 GPU, $1300 COSTCO)
2070@115W= 110% (inserted by RussianBytes for MSI "GE75 Gaming Laptop" RTX 2070 for $1,200 at COSTCO)
2060@115 watts AND further undervolting and overclocking: 110%
3060@115W= 115%
3070@ 90W = 115% (per joon82)
2070S@115W= 120% ("S" stands for the "SUPER" version of the RTX 2070)
Quote from atoneapone :
Good information in this thread to compare RTX 2000/ 3000 GPUs. So the 2070S is the only 2000 gpu that rivals a full 3060.
I also found this site that compares GPUs with TDP power. But they left out the lower powered 60w and 80w RTX 3060. I'm guessing they could range to anything between a RTX 2060 90w and RTX 2070, depending on a specific game/resolution, & benchmarks.
https://laptopmedia.com/us/top-la...s-ranking/
VI: MSI Laptop hierarchy (tells you the build-quality of the systems in their line up)

GT > GS > GE > GP > GL > GF > GV

GT Titan Series
GS Stealth Series
GE Raider Series
GP Leopard Series
GL Leopard Series
GF Thin Series

VII: Guide to increasing your laptop's performance by 10% by undervolting and overclocking

The guide is based on this laptops' 2060 TRX cousin but you can use similar logic for the 2070.
https://www.techpowerup.com/forum...75.279412/
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I'll say it again. You can undervolt the processor a good amount: I boosted my 6 core performance 29%, and it runs cooler. You can basically make it as good as a Ryzen (or better) with no risk to hardware. You have total freedom to manipulate power, temperature, and noise to your liking. For instance it runs just as fast at 35W as it did at 45W stock. If I max out the fans and CPU I can run at ~68W and 91C and 4.3MHz on all cores forever.

Undervolting is locked out of most 10th gen CPUs, but MSI allows it. You need to enable it in the bios, and then use Throttlestop. Ryzen processors can't be undervolted.

4th time I've linked in this thread? https://www.techpowerup.com/forum...75.279412/

I'd never done anything like this before. It wasn't hard.
5400 rpm??? Its 2021 not 2011!

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Max-q or max-p ?
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Max-q or max-p ?
MaxP. 115W.

I bought the 2060 model recently and have no complaints. Improved GPU ~12% and CPU ~29% by undervolting and overclocking. Cooling is adequate with both maxed out. Great display and keyboard. It's nice to have a 2.5" drive installed and you can also add another m.2 drive.

It's still on sale for $1100 til tomorrow. https://www.costco.com/msi-ge75-r...68605.html

The 2070 should be ~10% faster than the 2060.
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5400 rpm??? Its 2021 not 2011!
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I was mostly pointing out you can order now and do the price adjustment within 30 days.
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5400 rpm??? Its 2021 not 2011!
Right!!!
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Guys I have a GL65 10SFK, that's basically the 15 inch version of this. It has a 115w 2070. If you had this, would you try to sell it and buy this GE75 instead? From what I can tell the advantage is, bigger screen and bigger speaker. I paid $1047 total for the GL65.
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MaxP. 115W.

I bought the 2060 model recently and have no complaints. Improved GPU ~12% and CPU ~29% by undervolting and overclocking. Cooling is adequate with both maxed out. Great display and keyboard. It's nice to have a 2.5" drive installed and you can also add another m.2 drive.

It's still on sale for $1100 til tomorrow. https://www.costco.com/msi-ge75-r...68605.html

The 2070 should be ~10% faster than the 2060.
Can you explain how you overclocked your GPU? For some reason MSI grey's out my GPU control in Afterburner. I have the GL65
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Bought this to upgrade from the Overpowered laptop deal from Walmart a few years back to get better frames for COD Warzone. Getting around 100FPS. Still can't push 144 unfortunately.
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Can you explain how you overclocked your GPU? For some reason MSI grey's out my GPU control in Afterburner. I have the GL65
I didn't use this guide, but it looks like a good one for doing the basic scan: https://www.msi.com/blog/get-a-fr...oc-scanner

After that you will want to undervolt too. I'll post a writeup on the TechPowerUp forum soon... probably this morning.

And you definitely want to undervolt your CPU. I think MSI allows this on all it's laptops if you get into the advanced bios menu.
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$1200 laptop with a HDD, I suppose it's an easy thing to replace but come on. I'd rather have a 1tb ssd than the 1t hdd+512 ssd
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Guys I have a GL65 10SFK, that's basically the 15 inch version of this. It has a 115w 2070. If you had this, would you try to sell it and buy this GE75 instead? From what I can tell the advantage is, bigger screen and bigger speaker. I paid $1047 total for the GL65.
That's a good price; where did you buy?

The Raider may have a better screen (brightness, color gamut, response) depending on which model you have. It also has space for two m.2 drives as well as a 2.5" drive.

I personally wouldn't go through the hassle of selling something unless the upgrade was more substantial. In this case you'd have to really want a bigger display I think.
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Can you explain how you overclocked your GPU? For some reason MSI grey's out my GPU control in Afterburner. I have the GL65
https://www.techpowerup.com/forum...75.279412/
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