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Select LA/SF Dealers: 2021 Toyota Mirai Hydrogen Fuel Cell Car + $15k Fuel Card

after Tax Credits & Incentives (Select Locations)

$23,100

$52,408

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Select Eligible Toyota Dealers [Dealer Locator] located in Los Angeles / San Francisco, California are offering to Qualifying Customers: 2021 Toyota Mirai Hydrogen Fuel Cell Car + $15,000 in Complimentary Fuel for 2yrs with 0% APR for 72-Months for as low as $23,108 after Incentives and Tax Credits. Pricing and availability may vary depending on your location, consult your local eligible dealership for more information.
  • Note: Offer is valid at select participating Los Angeles / San Francisco, California locations only. Refer to the forum thread for additional deal details and discussion.
Thank to community member ExtremeOak for and reddit user XIIXOO for finding this deal.

Deal Details:
  1. Visit your local eligible Toyota Norcal Dealer [Dealer Locator]
  2. Shop for a eligible 2021 Toyota Mirai model that qualifies for the TFS Cash offer and Fuel Card offer mentioned on the page here
    • Note: Qualified buyers can finance a new 2021 Mirai at 0% APR for 72 Months.
  3. Apply for and purchase a qualifying model with prices starting from ~$50,408 (may vary by location)
  4. Toyota Cash Discount will deduct $20,000 from your total
  5. You will receive a $4,500 CA Tax Credit (more info)
  6. You will receive a $8,000 Federal Tax Credit (more info)
  7. You will also receive a Complimentary Fuel Card valid for up to 2 years or $15,000 of fuel (more info)
  8. Your total after incentives and tax credits will be as low as $23,108 and will vary depending on your location and model selection.
Additional Details:

Editor's Notes

Written by SaltyOne | Staff
  • We put this up due to popularity and the great discussion from our members in the comments that really highlights the spirit of the community. As a deal editing team we recognize the limited availability of this offer however
  • About this Deal:
    • Offer include a no cost maintenance plan with the purchase or lease of every new Toyota for 3 years or 35,000 miles, whichever comes first. 24-hour roadside assistance is also included for 3 years and unlimited miles
    • Terms:
      • 0% APR for 72 monthly payments of $13.89 for every $1,000 financed. Terms available on approved credit For only very well qualified customers/lessees through participating Toyota dealers and Toyota Financial Services (TFS). Cash offer must be applied toward required down payment amount or percentage. No down payment required if qualified for advertised offer. If you do not qualify for the offer, the amount and percentage of any down payment vary with your credit qualifications. There is no cash back option. Dealer contribution may vary and could affect price. Individual dealer prices, other terms and offers may vary. Must take retail delivery from dealer's stock and terms subject to vehicle availability. Cannot be combined with TFS Lease Cash, Customer Cash, Lease, Lease Subvention Cash. See your participating Toyota dealer for details. Offer available in CA regardless of buyer's residency; void where prohibited. Expires 03-31-2021. Toyota Financial Services is a service mark used by Toyota Motor Credit Corporation.
      • Customers who lease a 2021 Mirai will receive complimentary fuel for three years or $15,000, whichever comes first. Customers who purchase or finance a 2021 Mirai through June 30, 2021 receive an additional three years to use the $15,000 of fuel. Complimentary fuel term begins as of card activation or 90 days after the Mirai lease or purchase commencement date, whichever is earlier. Fuel card is nontransferable. The Mirai is a hydrogen-powered fuel cell electric vehicle that must be fueled at hydrogen stations conforming to the standards. See https://cafcp.org/stationmap for current hydrogen fueling station locations.

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Select Eligible Toyota Dealers [Dealer Locator] located in Los Angeles / San Francisco, California are offering to Qualifying Customers: 2021 Toyota Mirai Hydrogen Fuel Cell Car + $15,000 in Complimentary Fuel for 2yrs with 0% APR for 72-Months for as low as $23,108 after Incentives and Tax Credits. Pricing and availability may vary depending on your location, consult your local eligible dealership for more information.
  • Note: Offer is valid at select participating Los Angeles / San Francisco, California locations only. Refer to the forum thread for additional deal details and discussion.
Thank to community member ExtremeOak for and reddit user XIIXOO for finding this deal.

Deal Details:
  1. Visit your local eligible Toyota Norcal Dealer [Dealer Locator]
  2. Shop for a eligible 2021 Toyota Mirai model that qualifies for the TFS Cash offer and Fuel Card offer mentioned on the page here
    • Note: Qualified buyers can finance a new 2021 Mirai at 0% APR for 72 Months.
  3. Apply for and purchase a qualifying model with prices starting from ~$50,408 (may vary by location)
  4. Toyota Cash Discount will deduct $20,000 from your total
  5. You will receive a $4,500 CA Tax Credit (more info)
  6. You will receive a $8,000 Federal Tax Credit (more info)
  7. You will also receive a Complimentary Fuel Card valid for up to 2 years or $15,000 of fuel (more info)
  8. Your total after incentives and tax credits will be as low as $23,108 and will vary depending on your location and model selection.
Additional Details:

Editor's Notes

Written by SaltyOne | Staff
  • We put this up due to popularity and the great discussion from our members in the comments that really highlights the spirit of the community. As a deal editing team we recognize the limited availability of this offer however
  • About this Deal:
    • Offer include a no cost maintenance plan with the purchase or lease of every new Toyota for 3 years or 35,000 miles, whichever comes first. 24-hour roadside assistance is also included for 3 years and unlimited miles
    • Terms:
      • 0% APR for 72 monthly payments of $13.89 for every $1,000 financed. Terms available on approved credit For only very well qualified customers/lessees through participating Toyota dealers and Toyota Financial Services (TFS). Cash offer must be applied toward required down payment amount or percentage. No down payment required if qualified for advertised offer. If you do not qualify for the offer, the amount and percentage of any down payment vary with your credit qualifications. There is no cash back option. Dealer contribution may vary and could affect price. Individual dealer prices, other terms and offers may vary. Must take retail delivery from dealer's stock and terms subject to vehicle availability. Cannot be combined with TFS Lease Cash, Customer Cash, Lease, Lease Subvention Cash. See your participating Toyota dealer for details. Offer available in CA regardless of buyer's residency; void where prohibited. Expires 03-31-2021. Toyota Financial Services is a service mark used by Toyota Motor Credit Corporation.
      • Customers who lease a 2021 Mirai will receive complimentary fuel for three years or $15,000, whichever comes first. Customers who purchase or finance a 2021 Mirai through June 30, 2021 receive an additional three years to use the $15,000 of fuel. Complimentary fuel term begins as of card activation or 90 days after the Mirai lease or purchase commencement date, whichever is earlier. Fuel card is nontransferable. The Mirai is a hydrogen-powered fuel cell electric vehicle that must be fueled at hydrogen stations conforming to the standards. See https://cafcp.org/stationmap for current hydrogen fueling station locations.

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Ponzi
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I went to Hamer Toyota and they had balls to mark those up 3k plus 1k gps add-on. Came to $56.5k with no negotiation because stimulus money is here and dealers wants it all. Sad state
ExtremeOak
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Hydrogen Fuel cell is exempt from CA rebate income limits.

"The income cap applies for all eligible vehicle types except fuel-cell electric vehicles."

Source: cleanvehiclerebate.org/eng/requirements/1470
sawman5
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Slow car, 0-60 is 9.3 sec

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Quote from berkeflea :
In CA at least, it's around $17/kg.
https://cafcp.org/content/cost-re...t%20(p17).

This YT explains the wheel to wheel inefficiencies of hydrogen. It's something like 4kw in = 1kw out. Where a battery EV is about 4kw in = 3 kw out. This is why it hasn't taken off.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f7MzFfuNOtY
So how many miles does a Mirai drive on kilo of hydrogen? And what does it translate to cents/mile?

A typical EV averages 4mi/kWh or 5 cents a mile. A typical sub-compact like a Corolla, about 10 cents a mile.
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ddBqRvCpcFv6
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https://www.google.com/amp/s/driv...norway/amp

Love the design and the price... I'm in LA so I can get one.... But I'm scared about the possible fire.
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wisebrat
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Quote from th3g3ntl3man :
For the federal credit, you have to owe at least $8k in federal taxes to get the full benefit.
Thanks. But how about taxes deducted from payroll where by the year end more than 8k is already deducted.
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DoobieBrother
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Quote from th3g3ntl3man :
For the federal credit, you have to owe at least $8k in federal taxes to get the full benefit.
Sh*t .. Yea your right.. this does not work if you take a standard deduction.. I am all in on fuel cell for on earth and farther. I want one, but I want it to work out.. When this tech is basic is when we explore the universe.
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Quote from DoobieBrother :
Sh*t .. Yea your right.. this does not work if you take a standard deduction.. I am all in on fuel cell for on earth and farther. I want one, but I want it to work out.. When this tech is basic is when we explore the universe.
Owing taxes or getting a refund when you file your taxes is not the same as your tax liability. If you filled a 1040 last year, check line 16, if this is more than 8k and you didn't get any or tax refund credits, you will get the full rebate assuming your situation has not greatly changed
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jimx200
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Quote from Arcanlaw :
Tell that to my Model 3 that has been charged by the panels on my roof for the last 30k miles.
Haha..good one.
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The_Love_Spud
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Quote from th3g3ntl3man :
You can buy a 2017 Mirai for about $10k.
Can't believe it hadn't occurred to me to look up cars.com for CPO listings. There's clearly a discount market out there (though it is fair to note that older, first-generation models fall under the much smaller "rebadged Prius/Corolla" platform complaint lodged at some point in the thread).

Also glad to learn from those listings that FCV have largely fallen under similarly generous warranty requirements given to Toyota hybrid vehicles (so no obvious unique FCV repair costs for a reasonable period).

With only one listing to go by in the current generation/series, the deal in this thread actually aligns painfully well with typical Toyota pricing in the sense that this puts the brand new 2021 in the same range as a used 2020 [cars.com]! A bargain for what you're getting, if what you're seeking is an FCV...

Good luck!
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Jamesj562
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Is the tax credit fully refundable or only applies towards taxable income?
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alseTrewoP
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can you drive from LA to SF in these
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jacksson
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Haha closest hydrogen filling station for me is 600 miles away, I know the OP stated for LA San Fran but was curious. Closest filling location to NJ is in Quebec. CA may have a lot of quirky laws and taxes but if not for their lead we'd still be driving with leaded fuel getting 7 MPG
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dragonwang
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I previously owned the last generation of Mirai and let me tell you - wait until there's a hydrogen shortage again, then you will truly feel what "range anxiety" feels like...
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ExtremeOak
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Quote from tai_son :
You can't get the $4500 CA rebate and $8000 federal tax at the same time. To get CA $4500 rebate, you have to be in low income, then you wouldn't pay $8000 federal tax in the first place, you probably paying maybe like $4000 federal tax, then you can only get $4000 federal tax back.
California rebate is limited to $300k for married filing joint, hardly "low income". See the resources listed at the bottom of the post.
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Not sure if anyone realized it or not, but this was technically another "format" war. The Japanese car co's. were developing hydrogen, but I think ultimately they underestimated Elon. I believe Toyota scoffed at the idea of an electric car, and elon said hydrogen is B-S. It's sad in my opinion, wish there was 2 fueling options -hydrogen and electric. But it appears that hydrogen is going to the wayside.
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ExtremeOak
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Quote from alseTrewoP :
can you drive from LA to SF in these
Technically yes as there is a filling station in the middle but there are cases when the stations go offline. Personally I wouldn't take that type of risk.

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This is a slick deal if you live in So Cal, but oh the humanity!
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