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Kernel-Power 41 (63)

656 170 March 21, 2021 at 03:50 PM
Recent new pc build with some reused parts has been constantly rebooting itself after 5-10+ minutes of running.
There is no dumpfile, no bluescreen, whocrashed doesn't pick up anything and event viewer gives me "kernel-power 41 (63)". I have ran scf scannow, tried different psu's, graphics cards & ram but it still didn't solve the issue. Any suggestions are greatly appreciated.

I'm running:
MSI B550M PRO-VDH (WiFi) AMD AM4 mATX Motherboard
AMD Ryzen 5 3600
Crucial Ballistix Gaming 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3200 PC4-25600 CL16
EVGA SuperNOVA 750 B1
XFX Double D R9 280 933MHz 3GB DDR5 Ermm (it still works)
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jkee
03-21-2021 at 10:46 PM.
03-21-2021 at 10:46 PM.
It amuses me how people always try to skimp on or re-use power old supplies (this wasn't a bad PSU, they just don't last forever). The power supply is pretty important to a reliably functioning computer. I really don't like the idea of putting a 5 year old PSU in new build. Additionally, the power requirements of newer PCs are different from older PCs. So, the design
of newer PSUs has changed, with a notable shift towards more 12V power and how the power is allocated (probably not an issue in this case, but worth being aware of). I had a mosfet in my power supply violently let the smoke out last year during the power supply shortage. It might even be as simple as rebalancing the 12V loads between the different rails.

If you're having problems ditching a 6 year old power hungry graphics card is an easy experiment. It looks like your mother board has integrated graphics, so you could temporarily switch to that. You could even try running something like prime95 on integrated graphics to figure out if it's the graphics card or the PSU / other issues

RAM issues can cause errors like this, re-seat your ram and run a memtest.

Use some thermal monitoring software to keep an eye on system temps and make sure nothings is over heating. If removing the graphics card, swapping the PSU, reseating / testing the RAM don't resolve it, it's time to reapply the thermal paste or consider replacing the cooler even if the temps seem ok.
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MattGrebttap
03-21-2021 at 10:58 PM.
03-21-2021 at 10:58 PM.
I read online that it is generally a power problem. You said you have tried other power supplies as well, correct? What about changing the windows power settings?

It seems you've changed a few parts out for testing. Are you making sure you have the bare essentials hooked up when startung? I.E. Monitor, keyboard, mouse

Is this on W10? Is it completely up to date? Have you tried booting into safe mode to see if it still happens? Are all drivers fully up to date?

Is your video card getting all the power it needs? Is the thermal paste used for the CPU old? Is the CPU cooler sufficient?

Things you haven't tried swapping are the hdd, motherboard, and CPU. Do all components on the MB look OK? No burn marks or bulging capacitors?

I found this that has some other tips as well - https://windowsreport.com/kernel-...indows-10/
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03-22-2021 at 07:53 AM.
03-22-2021 at 07:53 AM.
To me, the time duration before failure would indicate a Thermal issue and I wonder if the Proc overheated, or is overheating.
So I echo the Thermal paste mentioned above.
If you really are partial to this box, look on eBay the same/similar Processor.
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jkee
03-22-2021 at 09:22 AM.
03-22-2021 at 09:22 AM.
Quote from Mack7mle :
I have ran scf scannow, tried different psu's, graphics cards & ram but it still didn't solve the issue. Any suggestions are greatly appreciated.
Different old PSUs you had lying around? PSU could still be the problem, sometimes old PSUs have more ripple.
Did you try integrated graphics (if your processor supports it)?
Run a memtest https://www.howtogeek.com/260813/...-problems/ or http://www.memtest.org/
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Mack7mle
03-23-2021 at 01:02 PM.
03-23-2021 at 01:02 PM.
First let me apologize to all that have offered suggestions, I did not supply enough detailed information.

I have 2 PC's, one upstairs & one in the basement.

The upstairs pc was FX-6300, XFX 280 & EVGA Supanova 750 B1. Then around the middle of last year went with a mini-itx build with a Ryzen 7 3700X, EVGA Supernova 650 & 1660 Ti.

The build in question is the basement pc.
In the basement I was running and FX-8350 with a 750Ti and some CoolMax PSU (I know, but it still works Embarass2). I wanted to change to a slimmer case but the case I purchased would not accommodate the cpu cooler I had on it, and I could not the stock one that came with it so many moons ago, so it was a good enough excuse for me to upgrade. So the new components are the MSI B550M, AMD Ryzen 5 3600 and Crucial Ballistix Gaming 16GB. I reused the 750 PSU & XFX 280 from the old upstairs pc. Did a clean install of Win 10, installed all updates/drivers. I turned off fast startup, I've done the memory test, and I even tried swapping the ram between both PC's, but still it just reboots with 10 minutes or so of starting up. I just booted the PC in safe mode and it stayed on for over hour and half.

Any ideas what the issue could be? Should I do another clean install?
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03-23-2021 at 03:26 PM.
03-23-2021 at 03:26 PM.
Quote from Mack7mle :
First let me apologize to all that have offered suggestions, I did not supply enough detailed information.

I have 2 PC's, one upstairs & one in the basement.

The upstairs pc was FX-6300, XFX 280 & EVGA Supanova 750 B1. Then around the middle of last year went with a mini-itx build with a Ryzen 7 3700X, EVGA Supernova 650 & 1660 Ti.

The build in question is the basement pc.
In the basement I was running and FX-8350 with a 750Ti and some CoolMax PSU (I know, but it still works Embarass2). I wanted to change to a slimmer case but the case I purchased would not accommodate the cpu cooler I had on it, and I could not the stock one that came with it so many moons ago, so it was a good enough excuse for me to upgrade. So the new components are the MSI B550M, AMD Ryzen 5 3600 and Crucial Ballistix Gaming 16GB. I reused the 750 PSU & XFX 280 from the old upstairs pc. Did a clean install of Win 10, installed all updates/drivers. I turned off fast startup, I've done the memory test, and I even tried swapping the ram between both PC's, but still it just reboots with 10 minutes or so of starting up. I just booted the PC in safe mode and it stayed on for over hour and half.

Any ideas what the issue could be? Should I do another clean install?
Power or heat.

Neither PSU sounds great.
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MattGrebttap
03-24-2021 at 04:19 AM.
03-24-2021 at 04:19 AM.
Quote from Mack7mle :
First let me apologize to all that have offered suggestions, I did not supply enough detailed information...... Should I do another clean install?

When you booted into safe mode and it was on for an hour and a half, did it reboot after that time or did you restart it?

If you restarted it, it seems to be a driver related issue. If you have an extra hard drive, I would disconnect/keep the old hdd and do a new clean install on the other hard drive. Then see what happens.

What CPU cooler are you using? Is it a new cooler?

Have you tried stress testing to see if it reboots during the stress test rather than the ten minute mark?

Did you already try the 750ti in place of the 280? You mentioned you tried a different psu, which one did you try?
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Mack7mle
03-24-2021 at 07:15 PM.
03-24-2021 at 07:15 PM.
Quote from jkee :
Power or heat.

Neither PSU sounds great.
Quote from MattGrebttap :
When you booted into safe mode and it was on for an hour and a half, did it reboot after that time or did you restart it?

If you restarted it, it seems to be a driver related issue. If you have an extra hard drive, I would disconnect/keep the old hdd and do a new clean install on the other hard drive. Then see what happens.

What CPU cooler are you using? Is it a new cooler?

Have you tried stress testing to see if it reboots during the stress test rather than the ten minute mark?

Did you already try the 750ti in place of the 280? You mentioned you tried a different psu, which one did you try?
Tried running the pc with the case cover on/off, tried both PSU's, and still got the same issue. I was prepared to just buy a brand new PSU but when I tried the "Safe Mode" suggestion, I noticed the issue that caused the PC to reboot didn't occur. I unintentionally left computer on for about 6+ hours in safe mode without issue. I ended doing a complete re-install of win10 and it that seems to have fix the problem.

I truly appreciate all the suggestions & help that was provided. Thank Yall Very Much.ApplauseApplauseApplause
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MattGrebttap
03-24-2021 at 10:46 PM.
03-24-2021 at 10:46 PM.
Quote from Mack7mle :
Tried running the pc with the case cover on/off, tried both PSU's, and still got the same issue. I was prepared to just buy a brand new PSU but when I tried the "Safe Mode" suggestion, I noticed the issue that caused the PC to reboot didn't occur. I unintentionally left computer on for about 6+ hours in safe mode without issue. I ended doing a complete re-install of win10 and it that seems to have fix the problem.

I truly appreciate all the suggestions & help that was provided. Thank Yall Very Much.ApplauseApplauseApplause

Glad it seems to be working better now. 👍
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