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SunHeater 2' x 20' Universal Solar Pool Heater $166.34

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Amazon [amazon.com] has SunHeater 2' x 20' Universal Solar Pool Heater (S120U) for on sale $166.34. Shipping is free.
  • Simple DIY installation; for in ground or above ground pools
  • Installs on roof, rack, ground or fence
  • Raises pool water temperature 6-10 degrees F
  • MADE IN USA
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Model: SunHeater S120U Universal Solar Pool Heater 2 by 20-Feet, Black

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laptopvaio
05-09-2021 at 07:10 PM.
05-09-2021 at 07:10 PM.
Quote from swechsler :
The amount of evaporation due to a few degrees of additional heat is not significant. It's not like you're going to be losing a foot of water a day. Even an inch a week is probably unlikely. I would think the minimal amount of water replacement required would be worthwhile for the additional comfort.
Isn't evaporation somehow related to humidity present in air?
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FuschiaScene411
05-09-2021 at 07:31 PM.
05-09-2021 at 07:31 PM.
Quote from sctrojan26 :
In a pool 6 degrees is a BIG deal. Water has a lot more heat flux than air. For me 64 F is frigid and 70 F is reasonable.

With that being said, seems TGTBT, I would check out trouble free pool. They seem to know what is legit on all things pool

Heat flux? You mean specific heat.
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faZZter
05-10-2021 at 01:15 PM.
05-10-2021 at 01:15 PM.
Quote from swechsler :
I used to have an inground pool with solar heat, and it does work, and works well. But you need a good amount of surface area relative to the size of the pool. I had about 400 sq feet for an approx 16x32' pool, and this was in Florida. I don't think 40 sq feet will get you very far. Remember that this is going to supplement the heat from the sun absorbed by the pool directly. Say you've got a 24' round pool, that's about 450 sq feet. Installing one of these panels is adding less than an additional 10% of surface area.
Yeah surface area certainly matters but the black tubing will tend to absorb more heat from the sun than water alone I would think. So it may be like actually having twice as much additional surface area if it were just water. The black won't reflect as many of the suns rays and instead will absorb the heat.
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swechsler
05-10-2021 at 01:27 PM.
05-10-2021 at 01:27 PM.
Quote from jimbo426 :
Something I don't recommend is a unit that switches the water path automatically as it senses the temperature. I installed it and don't use it. Waste of money (about $200!!) IMHO.
I suspect most people aren't going to keep an eye on the sun and pool temperature to know when to enable and disable the solar. $200 seems a small price to pay; most systems like that cost much more.
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LaughinGass
05-10-2021 at 02:31 PM.
05-10-2021 at 02:31 PM.
Quote from FuschiaScene411 :
Heat flux? You mean specific heat.
Heat flux seems appropriate. Flux = rate of transfer. Water transfers more BTUs per second than air, at least in part due to having much higher density (and thus inter-molecular contact).
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05-10-2021 at 03:11 PM.
05-10-2021 at 03:11 PM.
Quote from swechsler :
I'm not 100% sure of the science behind it, but if you have 40 sq feet of solar panels and 40 sq feet of water in the same sunlight, they're both getting hit with the same amount of infrared energy. That energy is converted into heat when it hits a liquid or a solid (i.e. the water, or the solar panel). The amount of IR hitting the solid/liquid is not reduced by its color; what differs is how much is reflected back. While it's possible that some IR will reflect off the surface of the water, I doubt the amount is significant compared to the amount that is absorbed. Worst case is that the last of the IR hits the bottom of the pool, where the heat will be immediately absorbed by the water above it.
No understanding of science is needed to realize black absorbs WAY more heat than white. Go to a grocery store parking lot on a sunny, hot summer day. Put your hand on the hood of a white car for 10 seconds and see how hot it is. Now put your hand on the hood of a black car for 10 seconds. Now go in the store and get some ice for your burned hand.

For some reason you're only talking about infrared. The sun emits a lot of energy wavelengths, including the visible spectrum. The higher the frequency, the greater the energy when they're converted to heat. Infrared is relatively low frequency. Even if the pool absorbs all infrared energy, black will absorb the infrared plus a lot of higher wavelengths that water will reflect.

Your comment that a solar blanket can't increase the amount of energy absorbed by the water also doesn't make sense. I assume that statement is based off your belief that surface area is all that matters, and color is irrelevant. If so, as demonstrated by the car test, that isn't true.
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rudyd4992
05-10-2021 at 03:21 PM.
05-10-2021 at 03:21 PM.
Quote from Kouskous44 :
Seen a lot of homes with water damage as they install this on roofs. Plastic eventually deteriorates over the years, joints fail, etc. Don't recommend.
Alot huh???
Almost like rain wouldnt cause the exact same thing with time.....
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jorellh
05-10-2021 at 03:56 PM.
05-10-2021 at 03:56 PM.
Don't all outdoor pools come with solar heaters?
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05-10-2021 at 06:00 PM.
05-10-2021 at 06:00 PM.
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Alot huh???
Almost like rain wouldnt cause the exact same thing with time.....
Rain isn't nearly as corrosive as chlorine.
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Kouskous44
05-10-2021 at 06:47 PM.
05-10-2021 at 06:47 PM.
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Alot huh???
Almost like rain wouldnt cause the exact same thing with time.....

Try leaving a hose trickling on the same spot on the roof for a month or more and see what happens.

Roofs are designed to keep water out, but it doesn't mean its impenetrable with constant moisture and saturation.

also depends on type of roofing material also but for this case specifically shingle sheeting. I've also seen this with concrete tiles, where the paper underlayment gets damaged also.
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05-11-2021 at 07:18 AM.
05-11-2021 at 07:18 AM.
For the hardcore, DIY SD'ers -
Buy 100+ feet of black irrigation tubing (polyethylene, ~0.5-1" diameter; the more length, the hotter the water, so go with larger diameter if you're doing 300' or so). Keep coiled, but stretch coils naturally to the side to provide more tubing exposed to the sun - you can run loops along a fence or lay on top of roof). Add diverter valve to pool RETURN from filter, allowing you to divert all/some/no water (pool can get too hot for comfort IMO), and a garden hose connector on other end of tubing (connected to hose you can put in the pool). On sunny days, the water coming out will be scalding hot, so put end of hose in deep end and warn kids to stay away (turn off when children actively swimming). This will raise pool temps depending on sun exposure (raised mine 10-15 degrees in a few days), easy to customize location/hide/remove, and only cost $30-50 in materials.
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05-11-2021 at 11:24 AM.
05-11-2021 at 11:24 AM.
Quote from EdEd1190 :
Probably would be better off just using a solar blanket over the pool surface. And no plumbing to worry about.
Using both combined is the best. Use the heater to warm up the water during the day and the solar blanket to keep the warmth from escaping at night.
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05-12-2021 at 05:30 AM.
05-12-2021 at 05:30 AM.
Quote from yeti79 :
6-10 degrees don't seem like much and the newest reviews are all terrible.

Shilly?

6-10 degrees is huge in a pool. Heck, it's pretty big in your house…

We used to keep our data centers 66 degrees in the military. We had a coat rack just outside so you could throw on a coat when working in it for any amount of time…
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05-12-2021 at 12:30 PM.
05-12-2021 at 12:30 PM.
Quote from Kouskous44 :
Seen a lot of homes with water damage as they install this on roofs. Plastic eventually deteriorates over the years, joints fail, etc. Don't recommend.

How would you get water damage if this was installed properly on a roof? Wouldn't it be just like it was raining if it leaked?
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wildrose7146
05-12-2021 at 12:31 PM.
05-12-2021 at 12:31 PM.
Quote from phanham :
For the hardcore, DIY SD'ers -
Buy 100+ feet of black irrigation tubing (polyethylene, ~0.5-1" diameter; the more length, the hotter the water, so go with larger diameter if you're doing 300' or so). Keep coiled, but stretch coils naturally to the side to provide more tubing exposed to the sun - you can run loops along a fence or lay on top of roof). Add diverter valve to pool RETURN from filter, allowing you to divert all/some/no water (pool can get too hot for comfort IMO), and a garden hose connector on other end of tubing (connected to hose you can put in the pool). On sunny days, the water coming out will be scalding hot, so put end of hose in deep end and warn kids to stay away (turn off when children actively swimming). This will raise pool temps depending on sun exposure (raised mine 10-15 degrees in a few days), easy to customize location/hide/remove, and only cost $30-50 in materials.

PeX and sharkbite connecors!
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