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Obviously it doesn't take critical thinking to know you can't print an 8in vase with a build plate that is as small as whats on the Zero or even Mono, but as some have previously mentioned it kills for miniatures and multi-part models.
The thing people don't get looking outward in when comparing to an FDM is supports. Supports in resin printers can do what only FDM could ever dream of - stacking.
I can set a Photon Zero to print 15 minitures at once and go to sleep. Drop the entire build plate into a bucket of water and in 3 minutes that pile of lines and solids falls apart almost like butter. My Ender 3 V2 can't touch it for this use case.
And while it easily doesn't apply to all its disingenuous to compare a tool meant for other prints against one meant for this.
This thread... Guys, it's $100 bucks for the zero. Of course don't buy this for big prints, but man, if you are looking to print minis or small pieces, this is a great deal.
Elegoo is having similar sales right now, what are people's thoughts on Elegoo vs Anycubic?
Mars 2 vs Mono.... trade blows... roughly the same with nearly every reason to get one or the other being trivial. Best Price is truly the only deciding factor.
Between Saturn and Mono X...Mono X has a superior build size with a longer Z axis.
MASSIVE EDIT: Oops, entirely forgot the Mono uses pretensioned FEP sheet inserts so the Elegoo models can use cheaper do it yourself FEP sheets. Anycubic just recently got them back in stock so folks needing them have been SOL. I'm super lazy so I'm willing to pay for this feature, but if you are used to tensioning your own FEP that a large strike against Anycubic Mono.
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Far too limiting for the hassle. I can print small things pretty well with my Adventurer 3 quickly. Yeah it's not smooth but the simplicity of printing the old way vs dealing with resin, curing and cleanup just does not make it worth it for me.
The way I look at it per dollar...
Resin/Traditional
1. Quality: Resin
2. Speed: Traditional (if you add in curing for Resin)
3. Cost: Traditional
4. Hassle: Traditional
So yes we all want the great looks of resin but right now the ability to pop in a spool of filament for $20 and zero cleanup or preparation for a print just makes resin not ready for prime time.
I think resin is about 2-3 years behind but once it catches up with maybe some form of built in curing (don't ask me how LOL) and then resin will take over.
Obviously it doesn't take critical thinking to know you can't print an 8in vase with a build plate that is as small as whats on the Zero or even Mono, but as some have previously mentioned it kills for miniatures and multi-part models.
The thing people don't get looking outward in when comparing to an FDM is supports. Supports in resin printers can do what only FDM could ever dream of - stacking.
I can set a Photon Zero to print 15 minitures at once and go to sleep. Drop the entire build plate into a bucket of water and in 3 minutes that pile of lines and solids falls apart almost like butter. My Ender 3 V2 can't touch it for this use case.
And while it easily doesn't apply to all its disingenuous to compare a tool meant for other prints against one meant for this.
2. Speed: Traditional (if you add in curing for Resin)
Traditional is nowhere near as fast as resin. Curing takes 5 minutes.
Again, this is just apples to oranges. It is great to point out the differences and the applications for using one type of printer over the other, but not to downplay another to suite your own needs.
Can this be used to print a training pistol (like blue gun)?
Would be too small for a single print, the max build size on this machine is roughly 3-3/4"x2-1/8"x5-7/8. You'd be better off with something like an Ender 3 if you wanted objects that size plus they would be a little more robust. This would be great for small detailed models though. If they were not so messy I'd be all over this but my print room is a spare bedroom with carpeting....no way the wife would tolerate a resin printer or the appendages that come along with them. With a filament based printer there is no mess that a vacuum can't cover up.
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Ended up ordering a Mono x and Cure & Wash Plus, 2 separate orders to double dip on the $10 off.
First I had the Mars, and curing was SUCH a pain. Pickle tub, sonic cleaner, using more paper towels than I ever thought possible. Got rid of it.
A year later, tried a regular Mono and the cure & wash, what a difference in post-print chores! Still though, ended up getting rid of it.
Thanks to those 2 previous encounters in slicing, cleaning, curing, I'm excited about the Mono X.
Now, if only there was a decent 500mmx500mmx500mm ish FDM at a decent price to 'complete' my collection of printers! (been considering the Tronxy, but it would take SO much work to do all the upgrades)
For the price I guess it's a great deal but I just cannot get over the 2.5 inch build size. I'm told resin printers tend to have smaller print areas but after getting used to the larger print sized on most traditional 3D printers this was a deal killer for me.
I want to get into resin printing as I like the more finished look but me thinks we need another year or two before these catch up to the point in which I will jump in.
I'm not downplaying anything. Both seem to take about the same time to print so even if you make that a tie you still have the small build size and mess to deal with. I want resin and will eventually get it but it's still a bit too new imho.
I was about to jump on this but when I saw how small the prints were I think I'll wait some more. I want larger not smaller
Prints on SLS/exposure printing takes the same time to print a 1 layer no matter what the layer has on it. Meaning if it takes 30sec per layer to expose 1 or 10 chess piece(s), FDM would take 30sec per chess piece per layer.
The other thing is post processing time to get a smooth finish. It takes way way longer to post process FDM prints.
That said, People need to understand Resin printing can be dangerous to yourself and the environment if they aren't very diligent with cleanup/handling/disposal.
This type of resin requires UV light to cure properly. You're likely thinking of FDM printers which use different types of plastic filament when printing. Those do not requires curing in UV light.
Went the cheap route, Photon Zero + 1kg resin for $135. This will be all I need to learn how to use it and decide if it's worth delving further into this form of 3d printing. They also have a separate 3 for the price of 2 resin deal with coupon code " resin3for2 ", but you have to place two orders to use two codes.
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The thing people don't get looking outward in when comparing to an FDM is supports. Supports in resin printers can do what only FDM could ever dream of - stacking.
I can set a Photon Zero to print 15 minitures at once and go to sleep. Drop the entire build plate into a bucket of water and in 3 minutes that pile of lines and solids falls apart almost like butter. My Ender 3 V2 can't touch it for this use case.
And while it easily doesn't apply to all its disingenuous to compare a tool meant for other prints against one meant for this.
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Between Saturn and Mono X...Mono X has a superior build size with a longer Z axis.
MASSIVE EDIT: Oops, entirely forgot the Mono uses pretensioned FEP sheet inserts so the Elegoo models can use cheaper do it yourself FEP sheets. Anycubic just recently got them back in stock so folks needing them have been SOL. I'm super lazy so I'm willing to pay for this feature, but if you are used to tensioning your own FEP that a large strike against Anycubic Mono.
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5.9 inches high
Far too limiting for the hassle. I can print small things pretty well with my Adventurer 3 quickly. Yeah it's not smooth but the simplicity of printing the old way vs dealing with resin, curing and cleanup just does not make it worth it for me.
The way I look at it per dollar...
Resin/Traditional
1. Quality: Resin
2. Speed: Traditional (if you add in curing for Resin)
3. Cost: Traditional
4. Hassle: Traditional
So yes we all want the great looks of resin but right now the ability to pop in a spool of filament for $20 and zero cleanup or preparation for a print just makes resin not ready for prime time.
I think resin is about 2-3 years behind but once it catches up with maybe some form of built in curing (don't ask me how LOL) and then resin will take over.
The thing people don't get looking outward in when comparing to an FDM is supports. Supports in resin printers can do what only FDM could ever dream of - stacking.
I can set a Photon Zero to print 15 minitures at once and go to sleep. Drop the entire build plate into a bucket of water and in 3 minutes that pile of lines and solids falls apart almost like butter. My Ender 3 V2 can't touch it for this use case.
And while it easily doesn't apply to all its disingenuous to compare a tool meant for other prints against one meant for this.
2. Speed: Traditional (if you add in curing for Resin)
Again, this is just apples to oranges. It is great to point out the differences and the applications for using one type of printer over the other, but not to downplay another to suite your own needs.
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First I had the Mars, and curing was SUCH a pain. Pickle tub, sonic cleaner, using more paper towels than I ever thought possible. Got rid of it.
A year later, tried a regular Mono and the cure & wash, what a difference in post-print chores! Still though, ended up getting rid of it.
Thanks to those 2 previous encounters in slicing, cleaning, curing, I'm excited about the Mono X.
Now, if only there was a decent 500mmx500mmx500mm ish FDM at a decent price to 'complete' my collection of printers! (been considering the Tronxy, but it would take SO much work to do all the upgrades)
I want to get into resin printing as I like the more finished look but me thinks we need another year or two before these catch up to the point in which I will jump in.
I was about to jump on this but when I saw how small the prints were I think I'll wait some more. I want larger not smaller
The other thing is post processing time to get a smooth finish. It takes way way longer to post process FDM prints.
That said, People need to understand Resin printing can be dangerous to yourself and the environment if they aren't very diligent with cleanup/handling/disposal.
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