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Obviously it doesn't take critical thinking to know you can't print an 8in vase with a build plate that is as small as whats on the Zero or even Mono, but as some have previously mentioned it kills for miniatures and multi-part models.
The thing people don't get looking outward in when comparing to an FDM is supports. Supports in resin printers can do what only FDM could ever dream of - stacking.
I can set a Photon Zero to print 15 minitures at once and go to sleep. Drop the entire build plate into a bucket of water and in 3 minutes that pile of lines and solids falls apart almost like butter. My Ender 3 V2 can't touch it for this use case.
And while it easily doesn't apply to all its disingenuous to compare a tool meant for other prints against one meant for this.
This thread... Guys, it's $100 bucks for the zero. Of course don't buy this for big prints, but man, if you are looking to print minis or small pieces, this is a great deal.
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My place venting is trash so is this safe to use on 4th floor apt? My health pets is important to me.
Simple answer, no. Complex answer is it depends.
IMO That's the same answer for FDM if using anything other than PLA. It can be dangerous (deadly) to birds if the PTFE (bowden) tube gets too hot.
Here's a reddit comment from 4 years ago about TPU on an FDM printer still pretty much applies:
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Good: You're most likely ok with this level of exposure in a human lifespan.
Bad: Even safe filaments produce ufp's which are known to be harmful in completely different contexts.
Ugly: Nobody knows and we're not likely to ever know conclusively unless something we're doing right now turns out that it's as bad as asbestos 20 years too late.
At the end of the day, you have to do your own legwork on it.
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Went the cheap route, Photon Zero + 1kg resin for $135. This will be all I need to learn how to use it and decide if it's worth delving further into this form of 3d printing. They also have a separate 3 for the price of 2 resin deal with coupon code " resin3for2 ", but you have to place two orders to use two codes.
a few things to keep in mind:
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Uncured photopolymer UV resin is not safe on the skin as it can quickly be absorbed through the skin and result in irritations. Negative effects may not be seen straight away, but after repeated exposure, you can get highly sensitive to UV resin. Fully cured resin is safe to touch.
Wear gloves. Do not get resin on any surface that you will eventually touch without gloves. Do not dispose of uncured resin or resin/alcohol/water into drain, household trash, or outside/environment. Cure all resin before disposal in regular waste. (Like leaving out in the sun)
Read the MSDS of resin you buy, it will list hazards, proper cleanup, etc.
This type of resin requires UV light to cure properly. You're likely thinking of FDM printers which use different types of plastic filament when printing. Those do not requires curing in UV light.
Thanks for the tip. So if I was to get this, I need to take it outside after printing? How long does it usually take? Tyia
This company is hit or miss. If your printer works they tend to be fairly reliable but if you get yours and start to have issues and need to call the company for warranty service. Good luck. They are a pain in the rear to deal with. Sometimes you can catch them in a good mood and get issues taken care of fairly easily and other times you'd rather pull your hair out.
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Far too limiting for the hassle. I can print small things pretty well with my Adventurer 3 quickly. Yeah it's not smooth but the simplicity of printing the old way vs dealing with resin, curing and cleanup just does not make it worth it for me.
The way I look at it per dollar...
Resin/Traditional
1. Quality: Resin
2. Speed: Traditional (if you add in curing for Resin)
3. Cost: Traditional
4. Hassle: Traditional
So yes we all want the great looks of resin but right now the ability to pop in a spool of filament for $20 and zero cleanup or preparation for a print just makes resin not ready for prime time.
I think resin is about 2-3 years behind but once it catches up with maybe some form of built in curing (don't ask me how LOL) and then resin will take over.
I cure my resin prints in 4-6 mins in the wash and cure. Cleaning takes about the 2-6 minutes. Its not hard at all. I think without ever trying it you're making it much harder in your mind than it actually is.
Went the cheap route, Photon Zero + 1kg resin for $135. This will be all I need to learn how to use it and decide if it's worth delving further into this form of 3d printing. They also have a separate 3 for the price of 2 resin deal with coupon code " resin3for2 ", but you have to place two orders to use two codes.
Not sure what experience others have had with Anycubic resin but I could not get it to stick to my build plate... I've never had a problem with ANY resin except Anycubic... Not sure if my 2 bottles were bad, I used them right after I got them from Amazon but they were trash. Based on that I'd never ever ever buy their resin again even if it was half price or less. I literally got zero successful prints out of half a bottle, it was all stuck to the resin tank.. I finally gave up and bought elegoo resin... 1st try. Exact same file... Perfect print.
Elegoo is having similar sales right now, what are people's thoughts on Elegoo vs Anycubic?
I hear the Mono is good, but the one I bought from Amazon died within a week (the motor that lifts the build plate stopped working). Luckily, Amazon gave me a complete refund, and since it had resin in it with no way to remove it all (the arm was at the bottom of the resin vat), they told me to just keep it and dispose of it as safely as I could.
I immediately bought a Mars 2, and it has been pretty much flawless in the two months I've had it.
My place venting is trash so is this safe to use on 4th floor apt? My health pets is important to me.
Do you have a room with a window that you can leave open? If so, you might be able to safely use one paired with water washable resin. Water washable resin has a lot less fumes than standard resin, so you should be able to put the printer on a table next to an open window, and put a fan blowing outwards in the windowsill. Then when your prints are done, use regular safety precautions regarding handling your uncured print, and storing the water you used to wash it with.
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Far too limiting for the hassle. I can print small things pretty well with my Adventurer 3 quickly. Yeah it's not smooth but the simplicity of printing the old way vs dealing with resin, curing and cleanup just does not make it worth it for me.
The way I look at it per dollar...
Resin/Traditional
1. Quality: Resin
2. Speed: Traditional (if you add in curing for Resin)
3. Cost: Traditional
4. Hassle: Traditional
So yes we all want the great looks of resin but right now the ability to pop in a spool of filament for $20 and zero cleanup or preparation for a print just makes resin not ready for prime time.
I think resin is about 2-3 years behind but once it catches up with maybe some form of built in curing (don't ask me how LOL) and then resin will take over.
Actually, I have found that in some cases the opposite is true. we have a model shop at my work (manufacturing) and SLA is the go to standard for printing models. It is faster and cheaper for them. Of course, they are in a commercial setting where upfront costs don't matter as much as per print costs and time is litterally money. They only do FDM prints as a second print if you need more tensile strength and only once you have verified that what you got is what you want. And even then they may just machine delrin or ultem rather than FDM.
Was anyone here able to find a good use for Zero? Like I can think of printing additional/substitute minifigs for board games occasionally, but other than that I can't see any way to use it constantly or make money out of it. Thoughts?
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Far too limiting for the hassle. I can print small things pretty well with my Adventurer 3 quickly. Yeah it's not smooth but the simplicity of printing the old way vs dealing with resin, curing and cleanup just does not make it worth it for me.
The way I look at it per dollar...
Resin/Traditional
1. Quality: Resin
2. Speed: Traditional (if you add in curing for Resin)
3. Cost: Traditional
4. Hassle: Traditional
So yes we all want the great looks of resin but right now the ability to pop in a spool of filament for $20 and zero cleanup or preparation for a print just makes resin not ready for prime time.
I think resin is about 2-3 years behind but once it catches up with maybe some form of built in curing (don't ask me how LOL) and then resin will take over.
I Agree! 20 dollar esun pla FTW, but if you want those miniatures...I mean you can tune and calibrate and get close to the smoothness of resin...
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The thing people don't get looking outward in when comparing to an FDM is supports. Supports in resin printers can do what only FDM could ever dream of - stacking.
I can set a Photon Zero to print 15 minitures at once and go to sleep. Drop the entire build plate into a bucket of water and in 3 minutes that pile of lines and solids falls apart almost like butter. My Ender 3 V2 can't touch it for this use case.
And while it easily doesn't apply to all its disingenuous to compare a tool meant for other prints against one meant for this.
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Like another user pointed out, it's apples to oranges. Both are additive manufacturing, but like comparing a mill to a lathe.
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IMO That's the same answer for FDM if using anything other than PLA. It can be dangerous (deadly) to birds if the PTFE (bowden) tube gets too hot.
Here's a reddit comment from 4 years ago about TPU on an FDM printer still pretty much applies:
Bad: Even safe filaments produce ufp's which are known to be harmful in completely different contexts.
Ugly: Nobody knows and we're not likely to ever know conclusively unless something we're doing right now turns out that it's as bad as asbestos 20 years too late.
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Wear gloves.
Do not get resin on any surface that you will eventually touch without gloves.
Do not dispose of uncured resin or resin/alcohol/water into drain, household trash, or outside/environment.
Cure all resin before disposal in regular waste. (Like leaving out in the sun)
Read the MSDS of resin you buy, it will list hazards, proper cleanup, etc.
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5.9 inches high
Far too limiting for the hassle. I can print small things pretty well with my Adventurer 3 quickly. Yeah it's not smooth but the simplicity of printing the old way vs dealing with resin, curing and cleanup just does not make it worth it for me.
The way I look at it per dollar...
Resin/Traditional
1. Quality: Resin
2. Speed: Traditional (if you add in curing for Resin)
3. Cost: Traditional
4. Hassle: Traditional
So yes we all want the great looks of resin but right now the ability to pop in a spool of filament for $20 and zero cleanup or preparation for a print just makes resin not ready for prime time.
I think resin is about 2-3 years behind but once it catches up with maybe some form of built in curing (don't ask me how LOL) and then resin will take over.
I immediately bought a Mars 2, and it has been pretty much flawless in the two months I've had it.
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5.9 inches high
Far too limiting for the hassle. I can print small things pretty well with my Adventurer 3 quickly. Yeah it's not smooth but the simplicity of printing the old way vs dealing with resin, curing and cleanup just does not make it worth it for me.
The way I look at it per dollar...
Resin/Traditional
1. Quality: Resin
2. Speed: Traditional (if you add in curing for Resin)
3. Cost: Traditional
4. Hassle: Traditional
So yes we all want the great looks of resin but right now the ability to pop in a spool of filament for $20 and zero cleanup or preparation for a print just makes resin not ready for prime time.
I think resin is about 2-3 years behind but once it catches up with maybe some form of built in curing (don't ask me how LOL) and then resin will take over.
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5.9 inches high
Far too limiting for the hassle. I can print small things pretty well with my Adventurer 3 quickly. Yeah it's not smooth but the simplicity of printing the old way vs dealing with resin, curing and cleanup just does not make it worth it for me.
The way I look at it per dollar...
Resin/Traditional
1. Quality: Resin
2. Speed: Traditional (if you add in curing for Resin)
3. Cost: Traditional
4. Hassle: Traditional
So yes we all want the great looks of resin but right now the ability to pop in a spool of filament for $20 and zero cleanup or preparation for a print just makes resin not ready for prime time.
I think resin is about 2-3 years behind but once it catches up with maybe some form of built in curing (don't ask me how LOL) and then resin will take over.
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