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May 22, 2021 8:19 PM

DuctlessAire 12 Seer 12000 BTU 220V 1-Ton Ductless Mini Split Air Conditioner

$779

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Home Depot has DuctlessAire 12 Seer 12000 BTU 220V 1-Ton Ductless Mini Split Air Conditioner & Heat Pump Variable Speed Inverter w/ WiFi (DA1221-H2) for $779. Shipping is free.

Thanks to community member david3808 for finding this deal.

Included:
  • Copper tubing w/ insulation and nuts
  • Control wire
  • 6' drain hose
  • Wall sleeve
  • Wall sleeve cover and tape

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Written by CChoiVA
  • About this product:
    • Rated 4.9 stars out of 5 overall based on 900+ reviews on Home Depot
    • 2-direction air vane
    • Built-in electronic diagnostic monitoring
    • Dual washable filters
  • About this store:
    • Home Depot Return Policy may be found here

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Home Depot has DuctlessAire 12 Seer 12000 BTU 220V 1-Ton Ductless Mini Split Air Conditioner & Heat Pump Variable Speed Inverter w/ WiFi (DA1221-H2) for $779. Shipping is free.

Thanks to community member david3808 for finding this deal.

Included:
  • Copper tubing w/ insulation and nuts
  • Control wire
  • 6' drain hose
  • Wall sleeve
  • Wall sleeve cover and tape

Editor's Notes

Written by CChoiVA
  • About this product:
    • Rated 4.9 stars out of 5 overall based on 900+ reviews on Home Depot
    • 2-direction air vane
    • Built-in electronic diagnostic monitoring
    • Dual washable filters
  • About this store:
    • Home Depot Return Policy may be found here

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May 23, 2021 2:15 AM
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D_NyholmMay 23, 2021 2:15 AM
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Seems crazy that this unit is only SEER 12 in 2021. Is that the norm? I out in a 2.5 ton central air unit rated at 18 SEER in 2008. Barely noticed it on my electrical bill paying almost $.23 per kw.
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May 23, 2021 2:28 AM
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BcontoursvtMay 23, 2021 2:28 AM
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Quote from D_Nyholm View quoted comment :
Seems crazy that this unit is only SEER 12 in 2021. Is that the norm? I out in a 2.5 ton central air unit rated at 18 SEER in 2008. Barely noticed it on my electrical bill paying almost $.23 per kw.
I think that is a typo. Home Depot and DuctlessAire's website list it at 21 SEER.
May 23, 2021 2:30 AM
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hunterr83May 23, 2021 2:30 AM
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Quote from MichaelR7517 View quoted comment :
so any recommendations on cheap install sources from pro people? cause knowing me i would not even know how to start installing these. i stop at installing portable ACs with window attachments LOL! honestly if anyone knows cheap places or professional people in the LAX area to install one of these would be highly appreciated! or even helpful for others here asking about install or 110v or 230v questions (by the way 110v 9,000 btu and 12,000 btu units for around 700-900 are on amazon....with DYI parts....but no professional install people or companies)
You can try looking up Quantum AC in Corona. I'm not sure if they're willing to do it any longer, but I purchased a multi-unit split system and they were willing to do the install a few years ago. Most places aren't willing to do this, reasonably so, because

1) They can make more money if they use their own systems due to markup
2) It's less of a hassle if they use their own systems because they know what they're working with. Nobody wants to install a system they aren't familiar with and then get blamed for it if it breaks down a week later through no fault of their own.
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May 23, 2021 2:33 AM
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May 23, 2021 2:33 AM
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Quote from Deal Hound View quoted comment :
The warranty [thdstatic.com] on this unit is next to worthless. If I were buying this, I would just assume there is no warranty. Also, Home Depot doesn't let you return major appliances [homedepot.com], so caveat emptor big time.

The warranty stipulates the unit must be installed by a licensed HVAC company. It also says defective components must be returned, and the owner is responsible for all shipping costs. It doesn't include labor at all, which is likely to be the majority of the cost of a repair done by a contractor. They know the shipping costs both ways and the time waiting for them to receive the defective part and ship the new one are enough to discourage most people from making a warranty claim.

I'm not a lawyer, but I don't think it's legal under the Magnuson-Moss Warranty Act to specify who can install the equipment. According to the FTC [ftc.gov], "...companies can't void a consumer's warranty or deny warranty coverage solely because the consumer uses a part made by someone else or gets someone not authorized by the company to perform service on the product."
Good info! This industry needs some regulation to end the scummy policies.
I ended up getting two 12k BTU units and assumed no warranty. The good news is that HD states on the product page (in specs) that these are 90-day returnable. Guess they fall outside the "major appliances" and into some other large equipment category. So I basically have a 90-day warranty and for the DIY savings, I'm okay with that.
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May 23, 2021 2:41 AM
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CgriteMay 23, 2021 2:41 AM
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Just bought the WiFi 24000 BTU model for my cabin. Thanks for posting this!
May 23, 2021 2:41 AM
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Exc3ll3ntsMay 23, 2021 2:41 AM
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Quote from Krazen1211 View quoted comment :
Returnable?

5% cashback on Freedom as well.
I believe it should be returnable. I checked on the product page after I brought one. It is listed as returnable within 90 days. Just another FYI. The cancel order window is only like an hour.
May 23, 2021 2:42 AM
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madmax718May 23, 2021 2:42 AM
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Quote from Bboy486 View quoted comment :
Is the 18,000 something that can work to cool a garage? Two car and I am aware of air escaping from the door and lack of insulation. But I am in AZ and want to put a gym in my garage.
It will cool. Depends on heat load factors. You may have to run it for a few hrs before hand before it has enough of the surrounding heat removed.

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May 23, 2021 2:44 AM
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Deal HoundMay 23, 2021 2:44 AM
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Quote from ToolDeals View quoted comment :
You are misinformed and that is my fault. If I am going to buy this made in China unit, I am going to buy direct from China for about a third of the cost delivered. Try GlobalSources, made-in-china, etc. Welcome to world trade... whereas these units are sold under a variety of names.

As far as refrigerant lines, pre-charged or not, like say, a commercial ice maker, most air conditioning systems require a minimum length you need to know. On these ductless, I prefer the head a little higher so the oil runs back into the compressor, but there is no pretty way to coil the excess line that you don't want to create an oil trap.

Not many people are going to have the tools, the often required license to buy the freon, the ability to run the required electric, the carpentry skills, etc. Hiring someone to vacuum the system is the easy part.....and if doing so, yes, have them fit the line and get rid of that excess mess.

As an option, you can order the Mr Cool and others with a specific length of pre-charged lines. Personally, I might opt for a USA made system from say, Ideal, but it is impossible to match the price of the China models that for the most part, are using Japanese technology in their compressors.
I'm intrigued by the prospect of ordering something like this directly from China. I've looked at stuff on the sites you mentioned before, but I've always been too intimidated to bite. I figure I'd get screwed somehow or get into some kind of customs snafu. I've only ordered small, inexpensive stuff on eBay and AliExpress directly from China (with very few problems). Have you ever ordered anything big like this from China? I'd like to hear your experience if so.

Something like this [globalsources.com] would be a good deal if shipping is reasonable. Supposedly, you can buy one as a sample for $180. I'm curious how much shipping would actually be to my door.

I'm pretty skeptical to be honest. It seems way too good to be true. I bet shipping for a single unit would be several hundred dollars. But I'd like to be wrong.
May 23, 2021 2:44 AM
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TunaNuggetMay 23, 2021 2:44 AM
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The more I read these comments, the more I want to install a wall unit. And I fix my own refrigerators and regularly do AC repairs on my cars.
May 23, 2021 2:45 AM
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wirelessfreakMay 23, 2021 2:45 AM
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Quote from Balayya_Fan View quoted comment :
Installer will take care of that right? Do I need to run de humidifier with these?
Not at all. These aren't "swamp coolers", so they don't depend on evaporation of water to cool . In fact, these will dehumidify the room they are in
May 23, 2021 2:48 AM
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madmax718May 23, 2021 2:48 AM
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Many "pro" installers do it wrong anyhow. Your supposed to evac and do a decay test. If it holds your golden. If it doesn't hold, or is fluxuating, pressure test with nitro and check for leaks. These linesets should be capped off so moisture in line shouldn't be anything crazy.

The issue comes where your line set is too long or too short. You could coil it up (in theory) but could cause oil settling down on the low parts.You may need to cut and flare.
May 23, 2021 2:50 AM
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Dahlar5May 23, 2021 2:50 AM
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How noisy are the compressors? I would like to install one in a fourth-story condo and get rid of the baseboard heat and add AC as a plus. I would be worried about how noisy the outside unit would be to neighbor's windows.
May 23, 2021 2:51 AM
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Bboy486May 23, 2021 2:51 AM
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Quote from madmax718 View quoted comment :
It will cool. Depends on heat load factors. You may have to run it for a few hrs before hand before it has enough of the surrounding heat removed.
That is more than fine. I can automate it
May 23, 2021 2:51 AM
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MattacksMay 23, 2021 2:51 AM
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Quote from rcairflyer View quoted comment :
A dehumidifier is about the opposite of an AC. Similar principle, but the dehumidifier produces heat in addition to removing moisture from the air. To dehumidify in warm months, run your AC more. In cold months, run the dehumidifier.
Dehumidifier is exactly the same thing as an air conditioner other than the condenser being inside your living space. That causes the heat you referr to. Normally that's outside (or at least vented outside like one of those crappy portable units).

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May 23, 2021 2:52 AM
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Bboy486May 23, 2021 2:52 AM
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Quote from neffernin View quoted comment :
I've been considering the same in my 3 car garage here in AZ. I imagine it's a fools errand during the peak of the summer unless it's early morning but hoping to get something that'll be enough at dusk. This one is probably too small for 600 Sq feet
That's just it. If I can do it after sundown I'll be happy.

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