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Did not see this publicized anywhere but a family member sent me an article. You are opted in unless you opt out. May have until June 8th to opt out. See instructions below:
https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2...neighbors/
https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2...neighbors/
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Looks like if you don't have currently enabled Amazon Sidewalk devices, you won't have the option in your Alexa setting to turn it off(?)
So later on additional device become enabled, you need to turn off Amazon Sidewalk at that time??? Meaning if Amazon suddenly enable older gen Echo (or other device currently not in the list) to act as sidewalk, then at later time, the option to turn it off will be available and someone need to remind you to turn off sidewalk???
Or in the future you buy newer echo devices, then need to remind yourself to turn off sidewalk at that time....
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So later on additional device become enabled, you need to turn off Amazon Sidewalk at that time??? Meaning if Amazon suddenly enable older gen Echo (or other device currently not in the list) to act as sidewalk, then at later time, the option to turn it off will be available and someone need to remind you to turn off sidewalk???
Or in the future you buy newer echo devices, then need to remind yourself to turn off sidewalk at that time....
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OK. Find this. What Devices Are Sidewalk Enabled? As of June 2021, the following devices can act as Amazon Sidewalk bridges: Ring Floodlight Cam (2019) Ring Spotlight Cam Wired (2019) Ring Spotlight Cam Mount (2019) Echo (3rd gen and newer) Echo Dot (3rd gen and newer) Echo Dot for Kids (3rd gen and newer) Echo Dot with Clock (3rd gen and newer) Echo Plus (all generations) Echo Show (2nd gen) Echo Show 5, 8, 10 (all generations) Echo Spot Echo Studio Echo Input Echo Flex |
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There may be slight protocol problems discovered over time (or, more likely... implementation problems)... but if so you can bet Amazon will be all over that and fix it ASAP.
I have no problem with people making their own decision regarding this, but I just get so tired of the media clickbait type of content, scaring people unnecessarily to get it turned off ASAP (and I'm not saying that is what's being done here at all with this PSA... thank you OP!)
This overlay network called Sidewalk that Amazon has created will allow incredible new use cases, that will make all of our lives more convenient & enable completely new innovations from third-party companies because now these applications of the tech are practical at scale and much much lower cost than the mobile networks offer
The one criticism I can see is that Amazon is enabling it by default, but can you imagine if it was opt-in... the "tyranny of the default" rules... it would take years before the network had any scale... this way it goes to scale overnight virtually, with what is likely approaching zero effect on anyone's network or privacy or security.
I hope most of you will get better educated on this and not jump the gun in turning it off before you can make a more rationally, better-informed decision. If after that you still want it off, that's fair and fine.
Like Tesla does with autopilot - you agree to allow the car to share data in order to improve AP.
I think the huge backlash could be avoided if they'd done that. Slower roll-out, sure, but at least it's with people that know what they are doing.
Maybe give digital credits, or discounted Prime, or offer some sort of value-add for everyone that opts-in OR - maybe ole Jeff can pay people . Let your ring doorbell participate in sidewalk, and get three months of service free, every year that you participate.
There are plenty of ways to make this consumer friendly. But yeah - that yacht's baby yacht is lonely.
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There may be slight protocol problems discovered over time (or, more likely... implementation problems)... but if so you can bet Amazon will be all over that and fix it ASAP.
I have no problem with people making their own decision regarding this, but I just get so tired of the media clickbait type of content, scaring people unnecessarily to get it turned off ASAP (and I'm not saying that is what's being done here at all with this PSA... thank you OP!)
This overlay network called Sidewalk that Amazon has created will allow incredible new use cases, that will make all of our lives more convenient & enable completely new innovations from third-party companies because now these applications of the tech are practical at scale and much much lower cost than the mobile networks offer
The one criticism I can see is that Amazon is enabling it by default, but can you imagine if it was opt-in... the "tyranny of the default" rules... it would take years before the network had any scale... this way it goes to scale overnight virtually, with what is likely approaching zero effect on anyone's network or privacy or security.
I hope most of you will get better educated on this and not jump the gun in turning it off before you can make a more rationally, better-informed decision. If after that you still want it off, that's fair and fine.
Conformer101 linked a fantastic article. It does not tell you to disable it or not. It tells you exactly what the Amazon Sidewalk is, which devices it affects, and leaves you to make the decision to enable or disable it.
https://www.howtogeek.c
Why are you talking about how fast your internet is? DSL could handle 80kbps.
Your super fast internet speed has literally nothing to do with it, unless you're still thinking they're allowing 500mbps download speed, instead of 500mb total usage per month.
Go read an article about it instead of relying on third-hand gossip.
And for what reason should we let Amazon use our internet for free? The point is they automatically opt you in and are stealing bandwidth imo from people who will fail to opt out or won't even find out about this. It's shady and par for the course for Amazon. They just take what they want and abuse their power.
I would say they aren't stealing it at all.
If anything, other people are 'stealing' it from you, at the blazing fast 80kbps, only for Amazon devices, which is not really useful for a vast majority of things.
And if you don't opt out, you too can 'steal' bandwidth from others if your internet temporarily goes out.
So in exchange for letting others use your bandwidth to find your tile or use their dot while their internet is out, you also get to use their bandwidth if yours goes out.
Why people are thinking others are going to cancel their internet to mooch off yours when 80kbps will run through 500mb in less than 2 hours is beyond me.
I am not a fan of Apple, but I was pleasantly surprise when they put people above profits, with app data sharing opt-in.
Amazon on the other hand, Profit > People.
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If anything, other people are 'stealing' it from you, at the blazing fast 80kbps, only for Amazon devices, which is not really useful for a vast majority of things.
And if you don't opt out, you too can 'steal' bandwidth from others if your internet temporarily goes out.
So in exchange for letting others use your bandwidth to find your tile or use their dot while their internet is out, you also get to use their bandwidth if yours goes out.
Why people are thinking others are going to cancel their internet to mooch off yours when 80kbps will run through 500mb in less than 2 hours is beyond me.
if you best friend sleeps with your mother, it's not about how he/she makes you mother feel, it's about an understood rule: "Thou shall not fornicate with best friends mother".
if you best friend sleeps with your mother, it's not about how he/she makes you mother feel, it's about an understood rule: "Thou shall not fornicate with best friends mother".
You're obsessed with Amazon 'stealing' data from you when, if you don't opt out of the program, you can steal the same amount (or more!) from others.
Not sure why you're so riled up about it.
Honestly, get as mad as you want about privacy issues, but to get mad about the data usage is hilarious imo.
Not sure why you're so riled up about it.
Honestly, get as mad as you want about privacy issues, but to get mad about the data usage is hilarious imo.
if i sold you a car and afterwards told you that the car i sold you is a community car an don the flip side you get to drive cars that belong to other people, you would probably have an issue with that, because what I sold you is not the say as what you get.
amazon is pushing its luck . . . this will just end up backfiring like the rebate industry. you had good players and many scumbags, at the end the government stepped it and took out most of the industry (in europe they made mail in rebates illegal)
at the end, the government is going to step in an put a stop to all this bs. in france one has to opt-in to get unsolicited messages. more and more european countries are switching to opt-in and doing away with opt-out
Samsung already has something similar to Sidewalk but it is use for SmartTag or some unknown device right now(?) And there is no way to turn off something in your Galaxy device for this Galaxy Find network(?)
Apple may have their own Bluetooth find network that use someone else data limit to transmit information to Apple Server to help locate Apple devices. And is there any option of your Apple device to disallow something connect to your Bluetooth to send data to Apple server?
Wonder what other services like this exist in Apple products beside this that use stranger Apple devices to send data to Apple server..
https://insights.samsun
Using the Galaxy Find Network, even if a SmartTag leaves your own smartphone's signal range, it can still use the signal from other Galaxy devices to pinpoint its location. "The Galaxy Find Network that empowers SmartThings Find is encrypted from end to end, so you can track down your SmartTag while keeping all data from Galaxy users in the network untraceable," said Linstrom.
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https://www.wired.com/story/apple...bluetoo
Say someone steals your MacBook. Even if the thief carries it around closed and disconnected from the internet, your laptop will emit its rotating public key via Bluetooth. A nearby stranger's iPhone, with no interaction from its owner, will pick up the signal, check its own location, and encrypt that location data using the public key it picked up from the laptop .....
The stranger's iPhone then uploads two things to Apple's server: The encrypted location, and a hash of the laptop's public key, which will serve as an identifier. Since Apple doesn't have the private key, it can't decrypt the location.
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This won't cause a class action. They're not letting people on anything. It's purpose built and heavily limited. It's just for finding devices. It has a speed cap which is extremely slow at 80kbs and a bandwidth cap.
I turned it off as my ring runs only on battery and I don't need something else draining it's battery. If I had it hardwired I would leave it on
I am not a fan of Apple, but I was pleasantly surprise when they put people above profits, with app data sharing opt-in.
Amazon on the other hand, Profit > People.
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