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Jun 15, 2021 7:37 PM

Biltek HVAC R12 R22 R502 A-C Diagnostic Manifold Gauge Kit w/ Quick Coupler Hi/Lo

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KapscoMoto via Walmart has Biltek HVAC R12 R22 R502 A-C Diagnostic Manifold Gauge Kit w/ Quick Coupler High & Low (NPTC-560G-134-1L) for $23.99. Shipping is free.

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Key Features:
  • Manifold gauges a/c tester refrigerant gas service diagnostic kit with quick couplers
  • Complete diagnostic and service gauge set for use on air conditioning systems
  • Refrigerant charging hose Max Working Pressure 500PSI; Burst Pressure 2500PSI
  • 10 amps high rate charging
  • Connect fittings with high pressure safety valve
  • Temperature Scale: Celsius
  • Hose Length: 60"
Includes:
  • 1x Dual Gauge Manifold with Built-in Sight Glass
  • 3x 60'' Charging Hoses (Red, Yellow & Blue)
  • 2x A/C Quick Couplers (Red = High Pressure, Blue = Low Pressure)
  • 1x R-410A Straight Adapter for Mini Split System Air Conditioners (1/4" to 5/16")

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  • About this deal:
    • This price is $30.94 lower (56.3% savings) than the list price of $54.93.
  • About this product:
    • 4.1 out of 5 stars rating at Amazon
  • About this store:
    • Seller KapscoMoto via Walmart has a 4.3 out of 5 stars rating based on over 1000 reviews (84% overall positive rating).
    • View Walmart Marketplace return policy here.
  • Please refer to the forum thread for additional deal ideas & discussion. -StrawMan86

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KapscoMoto via Walmart has Biltek HVAC R12 R22 R502 A-C Diagnostic Manifold Gauge Kit w/ Quick Coupler High & Low (NPTC-560G-134-1L) for $23.99. Shipping is free.

Thanks to community member C182pilot for finding this deal.

Key Features:
  • Manifold gauges a/c tester refrigerant gas service diagnostic kit with quick couplers
  • Complete diagnostic and service gauge set for use on air conditioning systems
  • Refrigerant charging hose Max Working Pressure 500PSI; Burst Pressure 2500PSI
  • 10 amps high rate charging
  • Connect fittings with high pressure safety valve
  • Temperature Scale: Celsius
  • Hose Length: 60"
Includes:
  • 1x Dual Gauge Manifold with Built-in Sight Glass
  • 3x 60'' Charging Hoses (Red, Yellow & Blue)
  • 2x A/C Quick Couplers (Red = High Pressure, Blue = Low Pressure)
  • 1x R-410A Straight Adapter for Mini Split System Air Conditioners (1/4" to 5/16")

Editor's Notes

Written by SubZero5 | Staff
  • About this deal:
    • This price is $30.94 lower (56.3% savings) than the list price of $54.93.
  • About this product:
    • 4.1 out of 5 stars rating at Amazon
  • About this store:
    • Seller KapscoMoto via Walmart has a 4.3 out of 5 stars rating based on over 1000 reviews (84% overall positive rating).
    • View Walmart Marketplace return policy here.
  • Please refer to the forum thread for additional deal ideas & discussion. -StrawMan86

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Quote from illjordanz View quoted comment :
Just had my unit serviced and planned on getting one of these to do my own monitoring.

Next step is YouTube on how to correctly use
I would recommend not putting these on your unit very often since each time you unscrew it you will lose a little refrigerant.
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ohiogatorsJun 16, 2021 3:02 PM
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Quote from illjordanz View quoted comment :
Just had my unit serviced and planned on getting one of these to do my own monitoring.

Next step is YouTube on how to correctly use
You'll end up causing a problem. You don't need to monitor system pressure if it is properly charged and installed initially.
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CoralKitten571Jun 16, 2021 3:42 PM
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Shipped and sold by Walmart https://www.walmart.com/ip/Manifo.../601771709

none of these look to have a charging port purge/burp point
Before 'burp' valves or whatever you want to call them you would unscrew the fitting at the .manifold end and tighten to purge the line.
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I would recommend getting getting 4 ports instead of 3. With 3 port, Every time you vacume and switch to fill you will introduce air in the hose. Not a big deal for small ac.
The unit for $23.99 only provides reading for R12, R22, R502.

R12 and R22 were used in old-school ac for home and auto.
R502 is also older refrigerators.

Newer window unit use R410a
Present cars use R134a
As of 2021 and future cars will start using R123yf
So the point being most of those dials beside psi are useless unless you are still using old-school ac system.
Another point being with the new standard for auto Freon there will be more sales coming in near future. Make sure the unit you purchase, at least, shows R134a readings.
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Quote from Slickd3aler View quoted comment :
Even if the car won't start? It's been sitting for a while and won't start. I've had problems with the fuel pump before and figure that's what it is but wanted to test to make sure.
All you need is ignition on for OBD
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Quote from Slickd3aler View quoted comment :
Even if the car won't start? It's been sitting for a while and won't start. I've had problems with the fuel pump before and figure that's what it is but wanted to test to make sure.
Cars have a fuel pump kill device that cuts the power to the fuel pump if the car is in a wreck. I had a Ford Escort that had bad hatch struts and if you shut the hatchback too hard it tripped the fuel pump kill device. There was a button on it you pressed to reset it to supply power again to the fuel pump. It would be worth googling where it is on your car just to check it just in case.
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Quote from Frugal-Deals View quoted comment :
I don't think these will work on a home unit, e.g. 410A, right?
First, R-410a uses a different size flare fitting, but it looks like this set comes with an adapter. R-410a uses 5/16" compared to the standard 1/4".

You can use a gauge set check the pressure, but that does not tell you very much with R-410a. R-410a is a blended refrigerant with several components that have different vapor pressures, so you cannot tell the level of fill by measuring the high side/low side pressure, like you used to with R-22. R-410a systems are filled by fully evacuating them with a vacuum pump, then filling by weight, with the can oriented to fill with liquid refrigerant, instead of with gas phase like you used to do with R-22.

R-410a has moderately high global warming potential, and will be illegal to manufacture new air conditioners that use it soon. (Jan 1 2024.) The replacement is R-466a.
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Jun 16, 2021 7:53 PM
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Quote from slacktide View quoted comment :
First, R-410a uses a different size flare fitting, but it looks like this set comes with an adapter. R-410a uses 5/16" compared to the standard 1/4".

You can use a gauge set check the pressure, but that does not tell you very much with R-410a. R-410a is a blended refrigerant with several components that have different vapor pressures, so you cannot tell the level of fill by measuring the high side/low side pressure, like you used to with R-22. R-410a systems are filled by fully evacuating them with a vacuum pump, then filling by weight, with the can oriented to fill with liquid refrigerant, instead of with gas phase like you used to do with R-22.

R-410a has moderately high global warming potential, and will be illegal to manufacture new air conditioners that use it soon. (Jan 1 2024.) The replacement is R-466a.
Interesting, thank you. Do you know if 410a will be illegal to buy in the event more is needed down the road?
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Quote from Frugal-Deals View quoted comment :
Interesting, thank you. Do you know if 410a will be illegal to buy in the event more is needed down the road?
The regulation only bans new appliances that use R-410a, not manufacture of R-410a itself. I don't think that there are any current plans to ban it.

https://www.federalregister.gov/d...status-and

The manufacture of new R-12 Freon was banned back in 1996, but anything made before that date is still legal to sell, including both stockpiled new refrigerant, and stuff that is reclaimed from broken ACs and recycled. 25 years later, you can still buy R-12, but it's getting expensive - about 3 years ago, 30 lb of reclaimed R12 was around $600, now it's $1500.

A 25 lb bottle of R-410a is around $300. A mini-split generally uses 3-6 lbs of refrigerant depending on the size of the unit, and the length of the lines in the house.

You need an EPA 608 Type 1 certification number to buy bulk refrigerant, but you can do an online course for that pretty cheap. Technically, you may need to have a Type 2 certification to work on a mini-split if it contains more than 5lb of refrigerant, but I doubt anyone is checking. Here's a pretty good article on troubleshooting and refilling mini-splits...

https://www.acservicetech.com/pos...split-unit
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Quote from ohiogators View quoted comment :
You'll end up causing a problem. You don't need to monitor system pressure if it is properly charged and installed initially.
just spent $5k for my new system. my old unit was practically new. somehow my a/c guy said the coil was leaking and that i need to replace it. $2000 just for the coil or $5k for the whole brand new system. i went with the whole thing. he also said my freon was at 25% level which was very low considering it was refilled just last year. maybe i should have refilled my freon using this instead of spending my $5k?


the reason i went for it was because google said freon should be there forever. no need to refill unless theres something really wrong with the system. damn. cost me 5 grands just for listening to google.
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Quote from slacktide View quoted comment :
First, R-410a uses a different size flare fitting, but it looks like this set comes with an adapter. R-410a uses 5/16" compared to the standard 1/4".

You can use a gauge set check the pressure, but that does not tell you very much with R-410a. R-410a is a blended refrigerant with several components that have different vapor pressures, so you cannot tell the level of fill by measuring the high side/low side pressure, like you used to with R-22. R-410a systems are filled by fully evacuating them with a vacuum pump, then filling by weight, with the can oriented to fill with liquid refrigerant, instead of with gas phase like you used to do with R-22.

R-410a has moderately high global warming potential, and will be illegal to manufacture new air conditioners that use it soon. (Jan 1 2024.) The replacement is R-466a
Most of this is completely false. Where to start? R-22 and 410A are measured the same way. They use the same hose and gauge set. No, you do not have to empty a 410a system to check the levels. I was an HVAC service tech for over a decade. Not sure where you got most of this information but it is just wrong.
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Quote from Lilyly View quoted comment :
just spent $5k for my new system. my old unit was practically new. somehow my a/c guy said the coil was leaking and that i need to replace it. $2000 just for the coil or $5k for the whole brand new system. i went with the whole thing. he also said my freon was at 25% level which was very low considering it was refilled just last year. maybe i should have refilled my freon using this instead of spending my $5k?


the reason i went for it was because google said freon should be there forever. no need to refill unless theres something really wrong with the system. damn. cost me 5 grands just for listening to google.
Always get a second quote. If your old system was under warranty then it shouldn't have cost more than $1000. I worked for a company that would do this. I quickly left after realizing how they cheated their customers. They would inflate the repair cost not mentioning the warranty and say "will you are pretty much at the same cost as a new system so..." Companies like this pay their tech on commission and they will cheat you six ways from Sunday. Most HVAC companies do not pay commission. Always get a second quote and ask them if they work on commission.

Most units will start leaking at some point. There is no way around it. I would tell customers it isn't worth replacing the system unless it is over 10 years old. Under that it makes more sense to just top it off depending on how bad the leak it.
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Quote from Frugal-Deals View quoted comment :
Interesting, thank you. Do you know if 410a will be illegal to buy in the event more is needed down the road?

You can buy 410a on ebay. It's not crazy expensive today. Who knows what the future holds but higher prices. Buy today or pay more later.

You can also find it on facebook marketplace.
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Quote from downwithcville View quoted comment :
Always get a second quote. If your old system was under warranty then it shouldn't have cost more than $1000. I worked for a company that would do this. I quickly left after realizing how they cheated their customers. They would inflate the repair cost not mentioning the warranty and say "will you are pretty much at the same cost as a new system so..." Companies like this pay their tech on commission and they will cheat you six ways from Sunday. Most HVAC companies do not pay commission. Always get a second quote and ask them if they work on commission.

Most units will start leaking at some point. There is no way around it. I would tell customers it isn't worth replacing the system unless it is over 10 years old. Under that it makes more sense to just top it off depending on how bad the leak it.
its already done. he said my unit was out of warranty. i didnt know how to check. but its definitely less than 7 years old. he pointed to some (very lightly) oil on my pan mixed with water. hardly see it but somethings there.


is it usual if it was filled 100% just last year and now its only 25% left?
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Quote from Lilyly View quoted comment :
its already done. he said my unit was out of warranty. i didnt know how to check. but its definitely less than 7 years old. he pointed to some (very lightly) oil on my pan mixed with water. hardly see it but somethings there.


is it usually if it was filled 100% just last year and now its only 25% left?
Sounds like a big leak. If it needs to be filled twice a year that's when I would recommend a coil replacement. 9 times out of 10 it's the coil that is leaking. Most warranties are 5 to 10 years. You can check with the manufacturer if the original installer registered it. Make sure you ask the new installer if they registered it with the manufacturer. Reputable companies do this without asking.
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