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- Available in Black or Walnut $2,199
- Pair of Klipsch Reference Premiere RP-8000F Floorstanding Speakers
- Pair of Klipsch Reference Premiere RP-600M Bookshelf Speakers
- Klipsch Reference Premiere RP-504C 2.5-Way Center Channel Speaker
- 10" Klipsch SPL-100 450W Subwoofer
- Onkyo TX-NR797 9.2-Channel Network A/V Receiver
- Bundle #2 Available in Black or Walnut $2,199
- Pair of Klipsch Reference Premiere RP-8000F Floorstanding Speakers
- Pair of Klipsch Reference Premiere RP-600M Bookshelf Speakers
- Klipsch Reference Premiere RP-504C 2.5-Way Center Channel Speaker
- 10" Klipsch SPL-100 450W Subwoofer
- Pioneer Elite VSX-LX304 9.2-Channel Network AV Receiver
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Also I totally agree with the poster above you: value is relative. But to add these also carry higher resale value in the long run as well in case you change your mind; each RP speaker usually goes for 2x their regular Ref counterpart when being sold (can't guarantee that about the sub though).
Anyways, for expansion you have a couple of options. The package above is currently a 5.1 and the receiver is capable of supporting up to:
5.2.4 or 7.2.2
The first number represents channels (I.e. 5 channels are: surround left, left, center, right, and surround right and the 7 channels are: rear left, surround left, left, center, right, surround right, and rear right).
The second number represents subwoofers, up to two in either configuration.
The third number represents height channels aka Atmos channels aka ceiling speakers (or speakers that bounce sound off of your ceiling). 2 channels means you get ceiling speakers that are placed a bit in front and right above you, and 4 channels means you get ceiling speakers in front of you, and behind you.
You should look the configurations up to get a better idea if these numbers and terms seem foreign to you!
But you have a ton of options as you can see and depending on what you want, there's a lot you can factually do (I won't comment on disputed things like highly upgraded cables) to improve these speakers.
For both music and cinema, relative cheap and immediate improvements are:
> Before buying anything, remember to optimize how your speakers are positioned (I'd highly recommend reading the manufacturer's manual) to maximize their efficacy
> Add bass traps (cheap and diy options are much less expensive) in your room. It will even out the bass response. Your room is very important and literally the other half of the equation. You want to minimize bouncing sound waves and reflections and resonation and all that.
> Depending on your floor material you'll see different effect here, but a subwoofer decoupling/isolation platform.
More expensive upgrades:
So first, I'd start with taking advantage of Dolby atmos and buying ceiling speakers. Honestly speaking, while theoretically you should "timbre" match (aka buying similar speakers from the same company so the speakers have the same sound signature and when everything is blending together into surround sound, it's more immersive and cohesive), I find that the most important speakers in order are Left & Right and Center for timbre. The rest while important aren't as noticeable if you get speakers from a different line unless you get something totally different. For surround stuff since it's usually for cinema only, more channels with low-mid cost speakers > less channels with mid-high cost speakers.This preface is because you can either buy some cheap in-ceiling speakers right away, some nicer in-ceiling speakers, or even these little speakers that Klipsch sells that sit on top of your speakers and bounce atmos of the ceiling.
Now whether you want 5.2.4 or 7.2.2 is up to you, but I think you'll see far more success with 5.2.4 especially in the coming future especially as the 2 rear ceiling speakers you get in 5.2.4 can also kinda masquerade as what would have been the rear channels you get in 7.2.2.
While the subs IMO are extremely important, they can get expensive. Height or more surround channels are cheaper to get.
If you want more bass, you have two options. When you get the sub in the package and if you find that the bass response is lacking (not as potent, not as crisp, or not as fast), then consider either swapping the klipsch sub to a more powerful subwoofer (subwoofers don't need to be timbre matched, that is you don't have to only buy klipsch Subs for klipsch speakers) OR if the bass seems inconsistent around the room and loud enough in some areas but weak in other, getting a second identical sub. The advantage of 2 subwoofers is similar to the bass traps, they help even out the bass response in the room. The way sound waves work, you might see large volume differences in low, mid, and highly frequencies in different parts of the room and two subwoofers not only add a bit more rumble and low end but vitally they even out the bass response. A pair of subs cancelling out (in very basic and inaccurate terms) the bad parts in a similar way to pulling both left and right on something makes it go nowhere and in this case you want that zero effect so the bass is even everywhere in the room. Now if you're just looking for better low end for something only like explosions or gunshots, it might be more worthwhile to simply pick up one bigger sub but you're going to have to do the research to see which option is best for your situation. You could just get two bigger badder subs 😂. Better subs don't necessarily mean bigger though. Bigger subwoofers (beyond 12") generally move more air but it's a blessing and a curse because if built poorly, they can be sloppy. Anything 15" and above usually is relegated mainly for cinema. Ported designs give you more upfront bass all the way around whereas as sealed subs sacrifice a lot of the kick to keep the lowest frequencies more even. But it ultimately does depend on subwoofer to subwoofer but my point being a well engineered 12" sub can be much better than your cheapest 15" sub so unlike the surround speakers where it's okay to cheap out a bit, this isn't the place.
One final thing you can do that meaningfully impacts everything but can be expensive addition with limited improvement depending on how sensitive you are, is buying separate amplifiers for your front left and right speakers, giving them access to more power in front and letting the receiver divvy up what was initially allocated to the left and right speaker to the other channels. Klipsch is known for doing well with any power source and this is mainly for if you ever change your front speakers. This last recommendation is what I meant in my earlier post by anything more expensive than the RP line starts requiring far more money and complexity (of wiring) for a noticeable effect.
Oh and side note, the source of your content and what format (I.e. streaming vs 4K Blu-ray) plays also matters but I'll leave that to you to research as this affects the video a lot more than the audio IMO for cinema. For music, the debate over music formats (Analog vs digital, and some debate inside digital formats itself) is still raging and you're again starting to enter audiophile territory where every minutia is something that needs to be analyzed and expensively improved to be enjoyed—just to be clear this is sarcasm but my point is for music what improvement is best and worthwhile becomes highly opinionated.
Okay finally after the great text wall of China, just enjoy your speakers! The RP line is already an amazing upgrade over 98% of the speakers most people listen to and should be fantastic for a long time. I really hope you like them!!
Also, the 504c and 600m reference premieres are on sale if this package doesn't meet your needs.
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Also, the 504c and 600m reference premieres are on sale if this package doesn't meet your needs.
Most tuba and soundstage often use horns for their directionality and control, so if you are going to use these speakers angle and azimuth setup are important to sound in the tweeters.
I have had many versions of Klipsch to Cornwall's etc and used to setup soundstages so I learned a lot hanging around real smart sound engineers.
Note horns are an acquired taste so before you plop down $2k go hear them live first imho.
Now understand 3db is a doubling of power level so Klipsch in general don't need more than a clean 100w to mains to sound good because this setup has a powered sub. The ports help in efficiency.
Many things come into play with it like how efficient are the speakers, distance you're listening, listening level, etc.
I would say from personal experience either of these receivers would have no problem driving 9 Klipsch speakers at average real world levels.
Some folks suggest biamping but few modern receivers support that and you run out of terminals pretty fast. Not saying no, it's just not as easy as the old days.
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Some folks suggest biamping but few modern receivers support that and you run out of terminals pretty fast. Not saying no, it's just not as easy as the old days.
I get people love to debate these stress test numbers and specs but there are many many other things that play into how it will perform for each of us beforehand.
Take for instance this package:
If you found that either of these receivers was "seriously underpowered" and your center & mains were "distorting" in real world use, I'm gambling it's not a power issue it's a user issue.
These do not need a lot of power to get them to their potential.
IMO concluding something is seriously underpowered by reading some numbers & stats is no where near as accurate than listening at real world use.
Today's receivers are much more efficient than the "old days" but people continue to use the "old days" as a barometer as how something will perform(ie the weight).
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Another thing to note that some people touched on is that with the typical AVR (audio-video receiver), power is split among all the speakers. While Klipsch is mocked for being such a universal "beginner" [for audiophiles] speaker, one can't deny they make some speakers that make excellent use of the limited power a normal AVR can output. Any of the more expensive speakers will also require a far more expensive AVR, or AV separates. What I'm getting at is, for a home theater/surround audio setup that's better than the OP, expect to spend FAR more money on a more complex setup for noticeable sonic improvements.
If you don't mind spending the money on this package, I'd highly recommend it; but the speakers you got earlier today are excellent for home theater purposes and I'd put the money elsewhere if that's all you're planning to do with them.
EDIT: I just noticed that the ones you posted doesn't come with a receiver. So the real cost is going to be 1100-1200 (assuming you're getting a receiver appropriate for those speakers) vs 2200. Since that's the case, I'd DEFINITELY recommend this set if you can swing it. It has more room for expansion if you plan on doing a dolby atmos setup!
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I doubt you will get anyone not to say these will sound "better", the debate will be whether the price difference is worth it. Unfortunately in the end no one can actually answer that for you.
Keep in mind you are comparing a 5.1+receiver vs a 5.1.2 w/o receiver. The irony is, this comes with a "Atmos" receiver that doesn't need it.
Unfortunately you need a "Atmos" receiver to take full advantage of your package.
That "Atmos" design can be challenging to get best results and in the end how good it is will vary for each person.
Just remember there is always something better, whether it's worth it will vary from person to person.
Another thing to note that some people touched on is that with the typical AVR (audio-video receiver), power is split among all the speakers. While Klipsch is mocked for being such a universal "beginner" [for audiophiles] speaker, one can't deny they make some speakers that make excellent use of the limited power a normal AVR can output. Any of the more expensive speakers will also require a far more expensive AVR, or AV separates. What I'm getting at is, for a home theater/surround audio setup that's better than the OP, expect to spend FAR more money on a more complex setup for noticeable sonic improvements.
If you don't mind spending the money on this package, I'd highly recommend it; but the speakers you got earlier today are excellent for home theater purposes and I'd put the money elsewhere if that's all you're planning to do with them.
EDIT: I just noticed that the ones you posted doesn't come with a receiver. So the real cost is going to be 1100-1200 (assuming you're getting a receiver appropriate for those speakers) vs 2200. Since that's the case, I'd DEFINITELY recommend this set if you can swing it. It has more room for expansion if you plan on doing a dolby atmos setup!
what would you say on my next thing to upgrade on this set? Sub?
how about addding ceiling speaker?
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