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Texas Instruments TI-84 Plus CE Color Graphing Calculator (various colors)

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Target has Texas Instruments TI-84 Plus CE Color Graphing Calculator (various colors) on sale for $99.99. Shipping is free.

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  • The TI-84 Plus CE makes comprehension of math and science topics quicker and easier. Ideal for middle school through college. The same menu structure and navigation as the TI-84 Plus family make it easy to pick up and learn. The built-in MathPrintâ„¢ feature allows you to input and view math symbols, formulas and stacked fractions exactly as they appear in textbooks.

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  • About this deal:
    • The Texas Instruments TI-84 Plus CE Color Graphing Calculator is $50 lower (33% savings) then the list price of $149.99.
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    • Target return policy may be found here.

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Target has Texas Instruments TI-84 Plus CE Color Graphing Calculator (various colors) on sale for $99.99. Shipping is free.

Thanks to community member BeigeStew7045 for sharing this deal.

Available Colors:
Product Info:
  • The TI-84 Plus CE makes comprehension of math and science topics quicker and easier. Ideal for middle school through college. The same menu structure and navigation as the TI-84 Plus family make it easy to pick up and learn. The built-in MathPrintâ„¢ feature allows you to input and view math symbols, formulas and stacked fractions exactly as they appear in textbooks.

Editor's Notes

Written by SlickDealio
  • About this deal:
    • The Texas Instruments TI-84 Plus CE Color Graphing Calculator is $50 lower (33% savings) then the list price of $149.99.
  • About this store:
    • Target return policy may be found here.

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MadPup
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pcgamer4life
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It's so absurd that these things are still as expensive now as they were nearly 20 years ago when I bought my first one.
HY-SD
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The thing is the libraries and algorithms aren't *still* being optimized and developed over the past 20+ years. They are basically copy and paste the same things over and over and over. There's zero new expense needed other than manufacturing costs, which is probably so dirty cheap now as everything is so underpowered and the screen quality is absolute crap by today's standard.

Porting isn't really that big of a problem, and the math operations that thing does are so simple I'm not even sure if there's need to optimize anything unless they use totally outdated processors from like the 80s.

Sounds to me more about everything else (monopoly, behind the scene stuff, etc) than technological reasons to me.

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Jul 18, 2021 10:13 PM
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ListedGuruJul 18, 2021 10:13 PM
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Quote from ListedGuru :
So that deal for google pay is still ongoing? Do you know if we can use the Target Red Card to pay on top of the $10 off $50?

Thanks,

-Guru
Just answering my own question here - I was able to get a $10 off $50 code through google pay for Target. I used that along with my target red card for an additional 5% off.

-Guru
Jul 18, 2021 10:14 PM
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11tybillionJul 18, 2021 10:14 PM
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Quote from gallymimus :
You clearly have no idea what it takes to optimize math libraries. Especially ones that are assembly optimized for the architecture. If you think this math is "simple" to accomplish correctly, on a well optimized embedded system (not on a 4GHz multicore PC) on a couple of AA batteries... Well... You honestly have a lot of Dunning Krueger going on.

You also don't understand how fast processor architectures change.

You also don't recognize that TI has been releasing new calcs every 5 years for the past 20 years.

News flash, you full color TI calc of today is not based upon the 68000 processor that was used 20 years ago.

So they want to make money on their intellectual property? You can do better for $10? Go for it. They also have no competition except HP and Casio, and traditionally TI's user experience has been MUCH better. That's why it's so widely adopted.

So stop complaining about what the market is willing to bear and that they have had a successful business model for 20 years. You are just silly.

In any case, you refuted my argument with zero additional information other than saying "no I don't think so from my armchair expert location"

But, yes, go with the monopoly evil corporation theory OR, go get a raspberry pi, add an LCD, put python on it, make it work on batteries and compete at 1/4 the cost....
wow ur so passionate TELL THEM SISTER ApplauseApplauseApplauseApplause
Jul 18, 2021 10:16 PM
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akachuyJul 18, 2021 10:16 PM
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really ironic that we use these throughout high school, but then once we get to a university theyre prohibited by all instructors. For engineering classes anyway. We can only use a scientific calculator.
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Jul 18, 2021 10:24 PM
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WH2436Jul 18, 2021 10:24 PM
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Quote from pcgamer4life :
It's so absurd that these things are still as expensive now as they were nearly 20 years ago when I bought my first one.
You know that $100 thirty years ago is not the same as $100 today, right?
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Jul 18, 2021 10:32 PM
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ParksideYNCJul 18, 2021 10:32 PM
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Quote from dundiefundie :
So more than retail? Staples has regular retail price of $154 for this model.
My staple is $159.99 for I 84 ce black.
Jul 18, 2021 10:34 PM
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h0va4lifeJul 18, 2021 10:34 PM
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Quote from pcgamer4life :
It's so absurd that these things are still as expensive now as they were nearly 20 years ago when I bought my first one.
Government sponsored MONOPOLY.
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Jul 18, 2021 10:35 PM
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h0va4lifeJul 18, 2021 10:35 PM
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Quote from Bleau1017 :
You know that $100 thirty years ago is not the same as $100 today, right?
LOL, calculator prices have not inflated much such that $100 for a device using decades old technology would be considered a deal.

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Jul 18, 2021 10:36 PM
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h0va4lifeJul 18, 2021 10:36 PM
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Quote from akachuy :
really ironic that we use these throughout high school, but then once we get to a university theyre prohibited by all instructors. For engineering classes anyway. We can only use a scientific calculator.
I am sure texas instruments lobbies education leadership really hard to keep these in HS curriculum math.
Jul 18, 2021 10:41 PM
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actionman1Jul 18, 2021 10:41 PM
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Quote from MaroonPanther3033 :
Why would anyone be dumb enough to buy this when any $20 cell phone is already more capable?
Teachers won't let them use their phones...
Jul 18, 2021 10:50 PM
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extremus669Jul 18, 2021 10:50 PM
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Quote from Mike D :
Some absurd arguments being made here. I can buy TI having invested some time in refactoring and optimizing for the TI-84 Plus CE's recent revisions. But that does not explain their now several-decades long stagnant pricing. Simple economics--and an obvious monopoly, driven in no small part by curriculums and textbooks--does.

Here's a now seven year old article delving into the TI calculator monopoly: https://www.washingtonpost.com/ne...lassrooms/

Not much has changed since this was written, other than TI adding color screens, rechargeable batteries and newer flash memory.
Old article with outdated data points. There is no mandate for any specific brand calculators at my kids' middle and high schools. Almost all their assignments are online nowadays and many kids use Desmos.

For kids who do prefer a physical graphing calculator, they can buy Casio, HP, or TI. The schools don't care.

For these reasons, the assertion that "TI has a monopoly" is not true. There is no foul play that prevents any other company from competing in the graphing calculator space. Casio and HP haven't been as successful because they didn't invest in building a good ecosystem around their calculators.

Despite the limited CPU/memory, the TI graphing calculators are miniature computing platforms where kids can download programs and even games to extend the functionality of the device. There are plenty of tutorials and active community forums for kids to get help and even write their own stuff. The TI calculators sell themselves through word-of-mouth.
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Jul 18, 2021 10:52 PM
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milkysunshineJul 18, 2021 10:52 PM
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Quote from RussellBell :
I came here to say the same thing. I can't believe these still cost the same as when I graduated high school in the late 90s!
you can buy a phone or tablet for this price, that will do all this and then some. I ddon't get it either. TI and schools in cahoots to keep these things profitable.
Jul 18, 2021 10:54 PM
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danman281Jul 18, 2021 10:54 PM
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I'm still using my 83!
Jul 18, 2021 10:55 PM
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NobledreamJul 18, 2021 10:55 PM
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Great price, but how are these still worth so much?
Jul 18, 2021 10:59 PM
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khassaniJul 18, 2021 10:59 PM
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Do schools not do bulk buying for their students any more or has that been shut down? When I was in HS our math department would take orders 2-3 times a year. I bought a TI-85 in the mid 90s for about $60 through my school.

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Jul 18, 2021 11:01 PM
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coldfusionJul 18, 2021 11:01 PM
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Quote from extremus669 :
Old article with outdated data points. There is no mandate for any specific brand calculators at my kids' middle and high schools. Almost all their assignments are online nowadays and many kids use Desmos.

For kids who do prefer a physical graphing calculator, they can buy Casio, HP, or TI. The schools don't care.

For these reasons, the assertion that "TI has a monopoly" is not true. There is no foul play that prevents any other company from competing in the graphing calculator space. Casio and HP haven't been as successful because they didn't invest in building a good ecosystem around their calculators.

Despite the limited CPU/memory, the TI graphing calculators are miniature computing platforms where kids can download programs and even games to extend the functionality of the device. There are plenty of tutorials and active community forums for kids to get help and even write their own stuff. The TI calculators sell themselves through word-of-mouth.
Our district "recommends" TI. Read as:kid has problem in class with TI? Teacher will help. Bring your own Casio? You're on your own, nobody knows how to use that.

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