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expiredangryguywalking posted Jul 31, 2021 11:43 PM
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Pioneer 12,000 BTU Ductless Mini Split 19 SEER AC & Heat Pump Inverter System

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$699

$1,000

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Home Depot has Pioneer 12,000 BTU Ductless Mini Split Air Conditioner / Heat Pump DC Inverter+ System (WYS012AMFI19RL-16) on sale for $699 (price reflected at checkout). Select free ship-to-store pickup where available.

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About this product:
  • Cooling SEER: 19.5 BTU/w
  • Heating Rated Capacity: 12,000 BTU/h
  • Cooling Capacity: 1,2000 BTU (1 Ton ~500 sqft)
  • Heating Capacity: 1,2000 BTU (1 Ton ~500 sqft)
  • Voltage: 110V / 120V
  • High-performance pulse width modulation driven DC inverter compressor and variable speed DC inverter fan motors.
  • 5-Year Manufacturer Warranty

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  • About this deal:
    • This deal is $220 off (23.94% savings) the retail list price of $919.
  • Ratings & Reviews:
    • This product is rated an impressive 4.6 out of 5 stars based on over 420 customer reviews on Home Depot.
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Home Depot has Pioneer 12,000 BTU Ductless Mini Split Air Conditioner / Heat Pump DC Inverter+ System (WYS012AMFI19RL-16) on sale for $699 (price reflected at checkout). Select free ship-to-store pickup where available.

Thanks to community member angryguywalking for finding this deal.

Note, availability for store pickup may vary by location.

Instructions:
  1. Click here to visit the product page
  2. Add the item to your cart
  3. Your price will be $699 after automatic discount applied at checkout
About this product:
  • Cooling SEER: 19.5 BTU/w
  • Heating Rated Capacity: 12,000 BTU/h
  • Cooling Capacity: 1,2000 BTU (1 Ton ~500 sqft)
  • Heating Capacity: 1,2000 BTU (1 Ton ~500 sqft)
  • Voltage: 110V / 120V
  • High-performance pulse width modulation driven DC inverter compressor and variable speed DC inverter fan motors.
  • 5-Year Manufacturer Warranty

Editor's Notes

Written by RevOne | Staff
  • About this deal:
    • This deal is $220 off (23.94% savings) the retail list price of $919.
  • Ratings & Reviews:
    • This product is rated an impressive 4.6 out of 5 stars based on over 420 customer reviews on Home Depot.
  • About this store:
    • Click here to view Home Depot's return policy.

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MusicsAllWeGot
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I own 3 pioneer's now. Honestly, for the price, it beats the Mr Cool that is always posted.
Never got the chance to posting the deal either, apologies to anyone.
No I'm not an electrician, nor a HVAC expert.
Regular person who just YT's everything and learn as I go. I did this to save money.
The first pioneer I bought in 17' I think, that was a 12k BTU, much lower SEER than my current ones.
Here's a few pointers and info at a glance:

DIAMANTE series was recently released, aesthetically it looks different, there's a small chart that tells you the difference in the temperatures it can run compared to the other models, it MAY be worth it to look into it, also it comes with 16" line set that can't be changed on the website (you can add or use your own line set to make it longer).
Out of all the models, DIAMANTE series is cheaper.

Second and third bought last year and this year. Both are 12k BTU's and rated at SEER 20 (115v), the 230v drops it down to 19 SEER. This is the DIAMANTE series that I have.

Prices went up by $50 or so dollars since I bought it, probably due to the shortage.

Yes they are made for DIY. Refrigerant is in the compressor (outdoor unit).

Pioneer CONSTANTLY updates their product without mentioning, and IMO, for the better.
My second unit was bought only a few months apart from my third unit.
The condensation line is a different and better quality.
Change in the plastic part that protects the lines inside the wall.
Different anti-vibration pads.

Register your product! It'll give you a 5 year warranty as opposed to 1 year if you don't.

IF you live in Miami, or anywhere near South Florida, go to their warehouse, and pick it up. I made the 2 hour (to and back) to their warehouse and picked it up to save on the delivery charges. Why?
Because Pioneer website COST MORE than their sister website? www.Highseer.com
BOTH websites/companies are the same. And the parent company Parker Davis.
Google PD and their website even has tutorials on taking your minisplit apart or installing it if you need to.
Can't control this through Wi-Fi, but I heard and they promote it on their website, on using the Cielo Breeze AC controller (Amazon it). No experience there but it seems you can control with smart apps/phone as well as a regular thermostat controller.
If you live in a hot area, just leave it on COOL and not Auto. It'll still turn off the outside unit and run when it needs to, but Auto feature sucks, IMO.

Also, hire an electrician if you don't know or can't make the connection, not worth your life.

Tools I invested while l learned back in 17' that I still use today:
5lb R410a refrigerant tank from offerup
Gauge set from Highseer (don't buy automobile gauges)
Pipe cutter from Home Depot
Flare tool from Home Depot
Vacuum pump from Harbor Freight
Adapter from 5/16" SAE to 1/4" SAE (This is a need if you don't have one to connect your gauges to vacuum it)
Proper gloves to mitigate any freeze burns from the refrigerant.

TDLR;
Pioneer is an amazing brand.
5 year warranty on most if not all models now, INCLUDING if you DIY, as long as you register within the timeframe.
Buy at Highseer.com and not Pioneerminisplit.com; same company, same warehouse, same parent company, cheaper.
Go for DIAMANTE series if your okay with 16" line set (and able to run within your temps)
Pickup at warehouse if you live in South Florida.
Wi-Fi module is extra. Look into Cielo Breeze AC Controller

:EDIT:
Comparison chart for Pioneer models
https://www.highseer.com/pages/wa...comparison
Rand4
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hugely variable.
would be alot easier to post what you have.

A 2800 sq ft 1 level ranch style in ohio is going to be different than a 2800sqft 2 story in texas.

and of course insulation, age/tightness of the house etc.

typically a super efficient 1ton (12000 btu) would be good for somewhere between 300-700 sq ft
and as the inverter style compressor can slow down and speed up.. you can oversize somewhat without humidity issues compared to traditional on/off compressor.
Brofessor_x
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These comments here are all funny with people who haven't done any research... this isnt a Mitsubishi unit, pioneer are happy to allow you to install and give you a full warranty for it.

And to the guy saying you need a 220v outlet the unit on sale is the 110v unit.

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sarcasmogratisAug 01, 2021 12:33 AM
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Anyone have a link for a good BTU calculator?
I'm sure varies by region/temps/square footage/etc
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hugely variable.
would be alot easier to post what you have.

A 2800 sq ft 1 level ranch style in ohio is going to be different than a 2800sqft 2 story in texas.

and of course insulation, age/tightness of the house etc.

typically a super efficient 1ton (12000 btu) would be good for somewhere between 300-700 sq ft
and as the inverter style compressor can slow down and speed up.. you can oversize somewhat without humidity issues compared to traditional on/off compressor.
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Quote from sarcasmogratis :
Anyone have a link for a good BTU calculator?
I'm sure varies by region/temps/square footage/etc
Give the one on their site a try to get an idea: https://www.pioneerminisplit.com/...calculator
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Quote from angryguywalking :
Give the one on their site a try to get an idea: https://www.pioneerminisplit.com/...calculator [pioneerminisplit.com]
I just tried that and it gives me 30k to 36k btu cooling needed.
I have 24k btu and it keeps up fine even on 100f day with bright sun.

now if I was buying a fancy inverter style you could go for the 36k and it wouldnt hurt anything.
with traditional it wouldn't run enough to bring down humidity correctly being oversize possibly causing issues.
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Quote from sarcasmogratis :
Anyone have a link for a good BTU calculator?
I'm sure varies by region/temps/square footage/etc

https://www.loadcalc.net/
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erictomAug 01, 2021 03:16 AM
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very good price
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Quote from erictom :
good.price
can I do DIY installation?
My understanding is these are mostly DIY if you're handy, but they recommend getting qualified electrician for that aspect

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Quote from erictom :
good.price
can I do DIY installation?
Usually only the ones that come with charged refrigerant lines are considered DIY, this one looks like you will need to know what you are doing there or higher a pro (in which case you'll want to run buy using your own minisplit first before considering this)

edit: aparently you can buy this kit here [homedepot.com] to DIY
Last edited by arribasn July 31, 2021 at 08:29 PM.
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Quote from erictom :
good.price
can I do DIY installation?
I own 3 pioneer's now. Honestly, for the price, it beats the Mr Cool that is always posted.
Never got the chance to posting the deal either, apologies to anyone.
No I'm not an electrician, nor a HVAC expert.
Regular person who just YT's everything and learn as I go. I did this to save money.
The first pioneer I bought in 17' I think, that was a 12k BTU, much lower SEER than my current ones.
Here's a few pointers and info at a glance:

DIAMANTE series was recently released, aesthetically it looks different, there's a small chart that tells you the difference in the temperatures it can run compared to the other models, it MAY be worth it to look into it, also it comes with 16" line set that can't be changed on the website (you can add or use your own line set to make it longer).
Out of all the models, DIAMANTE series is cheaper.

Second and third bought last year and this year. Both are 12k BTU's and rated at SEER 20 (115v), the 230v drops it down to 19 SEER. This is the DIAMANTE series that I have.

Prices went up by $50 or so dollars since I bought it, probably due to the shortage.

Yes they are made for DIY. Refrigerant is in the compressor (outdoor unit).

Pioneer CONSTANTLY updates their product without mentioning, and IMO, for the better.
My second unit was bought only a few months apart from my third unit.
The condensation line is a different and better quality.
Change in the plastic part that protects the lines inside the wall.
Different anti-vibration pads.

Register your product! It'll give you a 5 year warranty as opposed to 1 year if you don't.

IF you live in Miami, or anywhere near South Florida, go to their warehouse, and pick it up. I made the 2 hour (to and back) to their warehouse and picked it up to save on the delivery charges. Why?
Because Pioneer website COST MORE than their sister website? www.Highseer.com
BOTH websites/companies are the same. And the parent company Parker Davis.
Google PD and their website even has tutorials on taking your minisplit apart or installing it if you need to.
Can't control this through Wi-Fi, but I heard and they promote it on their website, on using the Cielo Breeze AC controller (Amazon it). No experience there but it seems you can control with smart apps/phone as well as a regular thermostat controller.
If you live in a hot area, just leave it on COOL and not Auto. It'll still turn off the outside unit and run when it needs to, but Auto feature sucks, IMO.

Also, hire an electrician if you don't know or can't make the connection, not worth your life.

Tools I invested while l learned back in 17' that I still use today:
5lb R410a refrigerant tank from offerup
Gauge set from Highseer (don't buy automobile gauges)
Pipe cutter from Home Depot
Flare tool from Home Depot
Vacuum pump from Harbor Freight
Adapter from 5/16" SAE to 1/4" SAE (This is a need if you don't have one to connect your gauges to vacuum it)
Proper gloves to mitigate any freeze burns from the refrigerant.

TDLR;
Pioneer is an amazing brand.
5 year warranty on most if not all models now, INCLUDING if you DIY, as long as you register within the timeframe.
Buy at Highseer.com and not Pioneerminisplit.com; same company, same warehouse, same parent company, cheaper.
Go for DIAMANTE series if your okay with 16" line set (and able to run within your temps)
Pickup at warehouse if you live in South Florida.
Wi-Fi module is extra. Look into Cielo Breeze AC Controller

:EDIT:
Comparison chart for Pioneer models
https://www.highseer.com/pages/wa...comparison
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Quote from arribasn :
Usually only the ones that come with charged refrigerant lines are considered DIY, this one looks like you will need to know what you are doing there or higher a pro (in which case you'll want to run buy using your own minisplit first before considering this)

edit: aparently you can buy this kit here [homedepot.com] to DIY
Yes, NOW they make and sell this. Wish they sold that when I installed my first one.
This does the job of the vacuum, which makes DIY much easier I believe.
I had to buy a vacuum, course $80 from HFT and I used it multiple times, so money well spent.
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Would this be good for a 16 x 16 patio room addition
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MichaelIvAug 01, 2021 02:31 PM
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What's the difference between this and a $550 eBay AUX ?
AUX Seems like a decent brand, not a fly-by-night-shop.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/133004749078
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dabargainhunterAug 01, 2021 03:37 PM
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definitely a better price than the Mr. Cool (Cost co co m) but, it's also a 19 SEER vs. the MC at 22 SEER. If the SEER is highly important to you, then that may be a factor.
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Quote from MichaelIv :
What's the difference between this and a $550 eBay AUX ?
AUX Seems like a decent brand, not a fly-by-night-shop.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/133004749078

AUX is 17 SEER, HD's is 19 SEER, Mr Cool (Cost co co m) is 22 SEER.
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Quote from arribasn :
Usually only the ones that come with charged refrigerant lines are considered DIY, this one looks like you will need to know what you are doing there or higher a pro (in which case you'll want to run buy using your own minisplit first before considering this)

edit: aparently you can buy this kit here [homedepot.com] to DIY
That's interesting, hadn't seen those before.

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