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Before making the choice about whether to go with various Ram + SSD option, I strongly suggest you watch the review video I've posted in the first post of this thread.
The 16GB Kit comes with two Single Rank 8GB modules (Ram chips only one side of the stick) which reduces the performance by certain degree as Ryzen Processors benefits from dual rank memory.
My recommendation will be buying the barebone and then get your SSD and Ram. They're charging extra $150 for 16GB Ram + 256GB SSD configuration which you can buy yourself. 256GB NVMe SSD can be found as cheap as $30-$40 if you look for the deals and 16GB kit will cost $60-$70.
I don't think ram chips on what side always equates to single rank. Also when I was buying g a Ryzen laptop 2 months ago and doing research single rank compared to dual rank isn't cut and dry. In some instances single rank is faster and in other dual rank is faster.
Single rank means all chips on one side of the PCB. Thats mostly the case with 8 gb modules.
Advantages are lower heat , better compatibility, higher overclocking results (by oc i mean past xmp)..
Dual rank means 1 set of chips on each side of the pcb. Found in many 16gb modules but exclusively on 32gb modules since there is not enough room on one side for them to be single rank.
Advantages are better performance at xmp compared to single rank. So they are preferred if all u want is to install and run at xmp.
Disadvantages - typically run hotter, are harder on the memory IC, and overclock harder past xmp
this is high level stuff it gets more complicated once you compare subtimings between samsung, hynix, crucial etc since there are other factors to consider.
Single rank means all chips on one side of the PCB. Thats mostly the case with 8 gb modules.
Advantages are lower heat , better compatibility, higher overclocking results (by oc i mean past xmp)..
Dual rank means 1 set of chips on each side of the pcb. Found in many 16gb modules but exclusively on 32gb modules since there is not enough room on one side for them to be single rank.
Advantages are better performance at xmp compared to single rank. So they are preferred if all u want is to install and run at xmp.
Disadvantages - typically run hotter, are harder on the memory IC, and overclock harder past xmp
this is high level stuff it gets more complicated once you compare subtimings between samsung, hynix, crucial etc since there are other factors to consider.
For SO-DIMM Memory, since overclocking is not possible, I think dual rank memory makes much sense since Ryzen performs better with that and you're not losing overclocking potential.
Another thing, in desktop DIMMs, dual sided memory not necessarily equates to dual rank memory. There are some dual sided but single rank memory for desktop.
Another thing, in desktop DIMMs, dual sided memory not necessarily equates to dual rank memory. There are some dual sided but single rank memory for desktop.
okay yeah I guess that could be. I dont think ive ever stumbled upon a kit of dual sided memory that is not dual rank. In my mind DS means DR or SS means SR. The confusion is usually dual sided vs dual channel which they do mean different things but in any case, between typhoon burner and cpu z , one should be able to distinguish how many ranks they have.
I get it that this is a pretty sweet little mini PC, but it is absolutely not a good deal in any way, shape or form.
A 5700G in a Deskmini will be much cheaper even at MSRP, about the same size, slightly faster, upgradeable and much less likely to thermally throttle
I get it that this is a pretty sweet little mini PC, but it is absolutely not a good deal in any way, shape or form.
A 5700G in a Deskmini will be much cheaper even at MSRP, about the same size, slightly faster, upgradeable and much less likely to thermally throttle
Well you still have to get case. Mobo. Heatsink. Still bigger. For some tje size is imprtamt especially fitting back of hdtv
this form factor is called thin mini itx. the board cost about the same as mini ITX, with laptop style coolers, rams and 19V power inputs.
honestly this concept has been around for at least a decade (and i have build thin min back in the day with sandybridge systems), the price for this system is meh at the best. perhaps youtuber of today didn't touch any computer devices 10 years ago and thought this is something new, but it is not.
some decent 19v power supply for 30 dollars, case often goes for 30 dollars. amd APU for 250 dollars, you can build it yourself for less than this product, and you can upgrade your processor as time comes (unlikley as AM4 is dead end, but point is you can change processor)
It's really cool but I just don't see the point of having a really good cpu and crap gpu. Not like you gonna be doing encoding or point clouds on this. At best the gpu is like 60% of a 1050. I guess if you playing older games or don't mind crap video settings be ok.
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For 1 year warranty, do I have to ship to item to Hong Kong and request warranty service? Do they have US branch or office to provide warranty return shippment?
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The 16GB Kit comes with two Single Rank 8GB modules (Ram chips only one side of the stick) which reduces the performance by certain degree as Ryzen Processors benefits from dual rank memory.
My recommendation will be buying the barebone and then get your SSD and Ram. They're charging extra $150 for 16GB Ram + 256GB SSD configuration which you can buy yourself. 256GB NVMe SSD can be found as cheap as $30-$40 if you look for the deals and 16GB kit will cost $60-$70.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fHpBsPx
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Advantages are lower heat , better compatibility, higher overclocking results (by oc i mean past xmp)..
Dual rank means 1 set of chips on each side of the pcb. Found in many 16gb modules but exclusively on 32gb modules since there is not enough room on one side for them to be single rank.
Advantages are better performance at xmp compared to single rank. So they are preferred if all u want is to install and run at xmp.
Disadvantages - typically run hotter, are harder on the memory IC, and overclock harder past xmp
this is high level stuff it gets more complicated once you compare subtimings between samsung, hynix, crucial etc since there are other factors to consider.
Advantages are lower heat , better compatibility, higher overclocking results (by oc i mean past xmp)..
Dual rank means 1 set of chips on each side of the pcb. Found in many 16gb modules but exclusively on 32gb modules since there is not enough room on one side for them to be single rank.
Advantages are better performance at xmp compared to single rank. So they are preferred if all u want is to install and run at xmp.
Disadvantages - typically run hotter, are harder on the memory IC, and overclock harder past xmp
this is high level stuff it gets more complicated once you compare subtimings between samsung, hynix, crucial etc since there are other factors to consider.
Another thing, in desktop DIMMs, dual sided memory not necessarily equates to dual rank memory. There are some dual sided but single rank memory for desktop.
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A 5700G in a Deskmini will be much cheaper even at MSRP, about the same size, slightly faster, upgradeable and much less likely to thermally throttle
A 5700G in a Deskmini will be much cheaper even at MSRP, about the same size, slightly faster, upgradeable and much less likely to thermally throttle
You can get same or better performance the 5* desktop series and save some cash for better SSD/RAM.
honestly this concept has been around for at least a decade (and i have build thin min back in the day with sandybridge systems), the price for this system is meh at the best. perhaps youtuber of today didn't touch any computer devices 10 years ago and thought this is something new, but it is not.
you culd get a thin mini AM4 board for like 130 dollars
https://www.newegg.com/p/2MG-0001...4REFGX60
some decent 19v power supply for 30 dollars, case often goes for 30 dollars. amd APU for 250 dollars, you can build it yourself for less than this product, and you can upgrade your processor as time comes (unlikley as AM4 is dead end, but point is you can change processor)
for example, get silverstone PT13-B-120 case, it comes with a 120 PSU
https://www.amazon.com/SilverSton...B0
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