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Before making the choice about whether to go with various Ram + SSD option, I strongly suggest you watch the review video I've posted in the first post of this thread.
The 16GB Kit comes with two Single Rank 8GB modules (Ram chips only one side of the stick) which reduces the performance by certain degree as Ryzen Processors benefits from dual rank memory.
My recommendation will be buying the barebone and then get your SSD and Ram. They're charging extra $150 for 16GB Ram + 256GB SSD configuration which you can buy yourself. 256GB NVMe SSD can be found as cheap as $30-$40 if you look for the deals and 16GB kit will cost $60-$70.
It would be, except the fact that the recent companies I have worked at all issue macbook pro for work.
I have an m1 pro for work..... my company thought doesn't really care if I use my home machines for work too, so if you work at a place like that and prefer a non mac, I still think this is a better alternative for a home / sometimes work machine than say a mac mini
Pre-ordered one of these to potentially replace a Hades Canyon HVK, to be used as a Plex and Roon server, for VMs etc. CPU seems like a beast. Does anyone know how reliable the m2 egpu method is? I use a 1080 on and off with the NUC, it's just enough for occasional gaming and any work that needs GPU - would hate to lose that.
I imagine if reliable the m2 method would be significantly faster than 40/40 tb3?
I have 2x16GB DDR4 2400 laying around. If I use it in this system how is it?
You can definitely use that but that will reduce the CPU performance by good margin but the integrated GPU performance will be severely reduced as that uses system ram for graphics memory and relies on the bandwidth it can get from the system memory. Anyway, if you can try your ram and if you see the performance is satisfactory for your workload, then use them.
this form factor is called thin mini itx. the board cost about the same as mini ITX, with laptop style coolers, rams and 19V power inputs.
honestly this concept has been around for at least a decade (and i have build thin min back in the day with sandybridge systems), the price for this system is meh at the best. perhaps youtuber of today didn't touch any computer devices 10 years ago and thought this is something new, but it is not.
some decent 19v power supply for 30 dollars, case often goes for 30 dollars. amd APU for 250 dollars, you can build it yourself for less than this product, and you can upgrade your processor as time comes (unlikley as AM4 is dead end, but point is you can change processor)
The motherboard is STX in these kind of NUC like mini PCs, including the popular Asrock Desknini which supports upgradable desktop processors. They are not ITX like the way you explained.
The motherboard is STX in these kind of NUC like mini PCs, including the popular Asrock Desknini which supports upgradable desktop processors. They are not ITX like the way you explained.
i mean we can argue about details (that is this board does not actually follow any standard), but the M/B on this device is sized much more like thin min itx than min STX, and NUC doesn't use STX either, they use 101x101
the min STX is a 147X140, which is in between NUC and ITX size.
this machine board is about 185x190? (guess based on external case dimension)
thin mini ITX is 170x170
i don't know how you could make a statement this machine uses STX, it is about 170% of the STX board size.
in fact, the thin mini case listed above has dimension of 186X181X42, which is actually SMALLER than this case at 195x190x60mm, but they all vastly larger than NUC.
i use to build AMD APU SFF machines for fun, so i know quite a bit about those systems and cases. until NUC came along with things like intel nuc 8, at which point all SFF build lost their practical reasons. the NUC 8 still has one of the very best IGP performance with very good CPU performance even by today's standard, especially when they are on sale for 600 dollars (https://slickdeals.net/e/13219942-amazon-prime-members-intel-nuc-nuc8i7hvk-596-99-plus-up-to-6-back?src=SiteSearch)
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i mean we can argue about details (that is this board does not actually follow any standard), but the M/B on this device is sized much more like thin min itx than min STX, and NUC doesn't use STX either, they use 101x101
the min STX is a 147X140, which is in between NUC and ITX size.
this machine board is about 185x190? (guess based on external case dimension)
thin mini ITX is 170x170
i don't know how you could make a statement this machine uses STX, it is about 170% of the STX board size.
in fact, the thin mini case listed above has dimension of 186X181X42, which is actually SMALLER than this case at 195x190x60mm, but they all vastly larger than NUC.
i use to build AMD APU SFF machines for fun, so i know quite a bit about those systems and cases. until NUC came along with things like intel nuc 8, at which point all SFF build lost their practical reasons. the NUC 8 still has one of the very best IGP performance with very good CPU performance even by today's standard, especially when they are on sale for 600 dollars (https://slickdeals.net/e/13219942-amazon-prime-members-intel-nuc-nuc8i7hvk-596-99-plus-up-to-6-back?src=SiteSearch)
From where are you getting the motherboard dimensions in the first place? Looks like you're quoting the case size instead of the motherboard. They went with a bigger chassis to accommodate a bigger cooler and those extra storage optipns. Check some of the reviews published in YouTube which has the disassembly showing the actual motherboard size rather than guessing. The motherboard is even smaller than the motherboard in Asrock Desk mini which uses STX Form Factor. This is way smaller than a mini ITX motherboard. A mini ITX uses standard desktop components including normal DIMM and PCIe x16 slot.
By the way, the alternative you are suggesting, has a quad core cpu which can be 60% slower and there is no support for the graphics driver from either AMD or Intel. May be you're not aware of that. May be for your work cases,vthst 4 core cpu in fine but this one is of a different league and your alternative is not really any alternative of this one.
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Would this be good as a higher end game emulation machine? Or without graphics card that's a no? My Pi 4 8 gb is pretty limited for anything beyond PS1 era.
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Would this be good as a higher end game emulation machine? Or without graphics card that's a no? My Pi 4 8 gb is pretty limited for anything beyond PS1 era.
Take the time to watch ETA Prime YouTube channel. I follow him exclusively for my retrogaming needs. He has videos of this unit running emulation
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The 16GB Kit comes with two Single Rank 8GB modules (Ram chips only one side of the stick) which reduces the performance by certain degree as Ryzen Processors benefits from dual rank memory.
My recommendation will be buying the barebone and then get your SSD and Ram. They're charging extra $150 for 16GB Ram + 256GB SSD configuration which you can buy yourself. 256GB NVMe SSD can be found as cheap as $30-$40 if you look for the deals and 16GB kit will cost $60-$70.
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Q6. When will HX90 ship ?
A: In Mid-September.
what is so special about this thing?
I imagine if reliable the m2 method would be significantly faster than 40/40 tb3?
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honestly this concept has been around for at least a decade (and i have build thin min back in the day with sandybridge systems), the price for this system is meh at the best. perhaps youtuber of today didn't touch any computer devices 10 years ago and thought this is something new, but it is not.
you culd get a thin mini AM4 board for like 130 dollars
https://www.newegg.com/p/2MG-0001...4REFGX60
some decent 19v power supply for 30 dollars, case often goes for 30 dollars. amd APU for 250 dollars, you can build it yourself for less than this product, and you can upgrade your processor as time comes (unlikley as AM4 is dead end, but point is you can change processor)
for example, get silverstone PT13-B-120 case, it comes with a 120 PSU
https://www.amazon.com/SilverSton...B0
the min STX is a 147X140, which is in between NUC and ITX size.
this machine board is about 185x190? (guess based on external case dimension)
thin mini ITX is 170x170
i don't know how you could make a statement this machine uses STX, it is about 170% of the STX board size.
in fact, the thin mini case listed above has dimension of 186X181X42, which is actually SMALLER than this case at 195x190x60mm, but they all vastly larger than NUC.
i use to build AMD APU SFF machines for fun, so i know quite a bit about those systems and cases. until NUC came along with things like intel nuc 8, at which point all SFF build lost their practical reasons. the NUC 8 still has one of the very best IGP performance with very good CPU performance even by today's standard, especially when they are on sale for 600 dollars (https://slickdeals.net/e/13219942-amazon-prime-members-intel-nuc-nuc8i7hvk-596-99-plus-up-to-6-back?src=SiteSe
the min STX is a 147X140, which is in between NUC and ITX size.
this machine board is about 185x190? (guess based on external case dimension)
thin mini ITX is 170x170
i don't know how you could make a statement this machine uses STX, it is about 170% of the STX board size.
in fact, the thin mini case listed above has dimension of 186X181X42, which is actually SMALLER than this case at 195x190x60mm, but they all vastly larger than NUC.
i use to build AMD APU SFF machines for fun, so i know quite a bit about those systems and cases. until NUC came along with things like intel nuc 8, at which point all SFF build lost their practical reasons. the NUC 8 still has one of the very best IGP performance with very good CPU performance even by today's standard, especially when they are on sale for 600 dollars (https://slickdeals.net/e/13219942-amazon-prime-members-intel-nuc-nuc8i7hvk-596-99-plus-up-to-6-back?src=SiteSe
By the way, the alternative you are suggesting, has a quad core cpu which can be 60% slower and there is no support for the graphics driver from either AMD or Intel. May be you're not aware of that. May be for your work cases,vthst 4 core cpu in fine but this one is of a different league and your alternative is not really any alternative of this one.
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