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ASUS ROG Zephyrus M16 - WUXGA 144Hz, Intel Core i7 11800H, NVIDIA RTX3050Ti, 16GB Ram, 512GB SSD $1249.99

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The ASUS ROG Zephyrus M16 - WUXGA 144Hz, Intel Core i7 11800H, NVIDIA RTX3050Ti, 16GB Ram, 512GB SSD is going on a discount at best buy.

Offer also includes 15 months Microsoft 365 subscription.

This is the lower end model of the line but has good reviews.

The RTX 3050Ti is an latest entry level 3000 series NVIDIA RTX card that should be able to play latest games on low/medium settings at 60+ fps.

This might be a very good deal for anyone looking for a multimedia laptop.

https://www.bestbuy.com/site/asus...Id=6464201
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The ASUS ROG Zephyrus M16 - WUXGA 144Hz, Intel Core i7 11800H, NVIDIA RTX3050Ti, 16GB Ram, 512GB SSD is going on a discount at best buy.

Offer also includes 15 months Microsoft 365 subscription.

This is the lower end model of the line but has good reviews.

The RTX 3050Ti is an latest entry level 3000 series NVIDIA RTX card that should be able to play latest games on low/medium settings at 60+ fps.

This might be a very good deal for anyone looking for a multimedia laptop.

https://www.bestbuy.com/site/asus...Id=6464201

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Can't find detailed specs on Asus' website, it does list this exact model but the specs sections are blank.

The screen is likely the 100% sRGB model from the G603HM. Some nice things on M16 vs Asus G15 (but can't confirm this M16 isn't a cut down model):
- camera is top mounted
- 16:10 screen
- Thunderbolt 4
- RGB backlighting
- PCI/E gen 4 M.2 slots
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TheWolfLokiAug 30, 2021 6:35 PM
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I just bought the 3060 variant, I'm loving it. The fans are LOUD when gaming, but silent when doing anything basic.
(seriously, my hp omen laptop under full load is half the noise level)
Here's the reasons why I think the m16 is one of the best 2021 laptops:
16" 1440p@165hz 500nits VRR screen in the smallest chassis possible, only the msi gs76 and Lenovo legion 5pro/7 are close.
100w Power delivery on both USB-c ports, meaning you can use thunderbolt 4 at the same time as you charge on the other. (most only have PD on one at most)
Gaming performance on battery or USB PD is actually GREAT! Gpu is capped at 50w which gives roughly 3/4 the framerate. All other laptops tank gaming performance unless plugged in to full AC charger, they cap gpu memory clock at 810mhz (stock is 7000mhz) meaning you get honestly 1/9th the framerate.
This is super important if you want to game on the go or while traveling, especially in planes where the power outlets cap at 90w (usb PD to the rescue!).
Internals are VERY easy to work on if something ever breaks, all parts are easily available online and reasonable in price (fans, heatsink, screen, chassis, battery, etc)
And finally, the cpu in this model is actually FULLY UNLOCKED. You can enable overclocking in bios, you can set an undervolt in bios or windows, and set everything however you wish. It is a K-sku in everything but the name.

Downsides and why they don't matter to me:
LOUD fans under full load; headphones are your friend and it's silent otherwise.
Only 1 ram slot to upgrade; nobody really needs more than 40gb of ram in a laptop which has unupgradable cpu/gpu. This is hardly as a big a deal as everyone thinks.
Liquid Metal on gpu makes repasting a hassle and their factory application is sub-optimal, while temperatures ARE kept in check by those loud fans, maybe in a year or two they won't be and you'll have to do a liquid metal cleanup and reapplication.
Heat blowing into screen; the only people concerned about this have never had their hands on the laptop, while some of the heat goes into screen, it's actually minimal, the side vents and power button area are HOT to the touch after 1hr full load, back vents are warm, and screen is warm. Even if you game for 6 hours a day every day I don't think it's going to be a problem.

I bought a "satisfactory" open box 3060/i9 version from best buy for $1484, it had some smudges on keyboard which wiped off but now it looks brand new even with a magnifying glass.
If you can, I suggest 3060 to play games at 1440p. The 3050ti just isn't up to it but can play at 1080p no problem.
Last edited by TheWolfLoki August 30, 2021 at 11:42 AM.
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Aug 30, 2021 6:49 PM
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Quote from TheWolfLoki View quoted comment :
I just bought the 3060 variant, I'm loving it. The fans are LOUD when gaming, but silent when doing anything basic.
(seriously, my hp omen laptop under full load is half the noise level)
Here's the reasons why I think the m16 is one of the best 2021 laptops:
16" 1440p@165hz 500nits VRR screen in the smallest chassis possible, only the msi gs76 and Lenovo legion 5pro/7 are close.
100w Power delivery on both USB-c ports, meaning you can use thunderbolt 4 at the same time as you charge on the other. (most only have PD on one at most)
Gaming performance on battery or USB PD is actually GREAT! Gpu is capped at 50w which gives roughly 3/4 the framerate. All other laptops tank gaming performance unless plugged in to full AC charger, they cap gpu memory clock at 810mhz (stock is 7000mhz) meaning you get honestly 1/9th the framerate.
This is super important if you want to game on the go or while traveling, especially in planes where the power outlets cap at 90w (usb PD to the rescue!).
Internals are VERY easy to work on if something ever breaks, all parts are easily available online and reasonable in price (fans, heatsink, screen, chassis, battery, etc)
And finally, the cpu in this model is actually FULLY UNLOCKED. You can enable overclocking in bios, you can set an undervolt in bios or windows, and set everything however you wish. It is a K-sku in everything but the name.

Downsides and why they don't matter to me:
LOUD fans under full load; headphones are your friend and it's silent otherwise.
Only 1 ram slot to upgrade; nobody really needs more than 40gb of ram in a laptop which has unupgradable cpu/gpu. This is hardly as a big a deal as everyone thinks.
Liquid Metal on gpu makes repasting a hassle and their factory application is sub-optimal, while temperatures ARE kept in check by those loud fans, maybe in a year or two they won't be and you'll have to do a liquid metal cleanup and reapplication.
Heat blowing into screen; the only people concerned about this have never had their hands on the laptop, while some of the heat goes into screen, it's actually minimal, the side vents and power button area are HOT to the touch after 1hr full load, back vents are warm, and screen is warm. Even if you game for 6 hours a day every day I don't think it's going to be a problem.

I bought a "satisfactory" open box 3060/i9 version from best buy for $1484, it had some smudges on keyboard which wiped off but now it looks brand new even with a magnifying glass.
If you can, I suggest 3060 to play games at 1440p. The 3050ti just isn't up to it but can play at 1080p no problem.
This one has the 1200p screen, so it's not as nice a screen as yours. Also concerned that since Asus doesn't list the specs for this model that it might not match the other M16s. Is the power supply still 90W? Does it have a PCIe gen 4 M.2 drive installed or something cheaper?

Reviews say it's loud cause it runs cooler, the quiet laptops generally run hot. Pick your poison.
Aug 30, 2021 6:55 PM
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TheWolfLokiAug 30, 2021 6:55 PM
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Quote from VarmintCong View quoted comment :
This one has the 1200p screen, so it's not as nice a screen as yours. Also concerned that since Asus doesn't list the specs for this model that it might not match the other M16s. Is the power supply still 90W? Does it have a PCIe gen 4 M.2 drive installed or something cheaper?

Reviews say it's loud cause it runs cooler, the quiet laptops generally run hot. Pick your poison.
Oh that is weird! I didn't even notice it was a different display, honestly everything else looks the same though, and 1200p is a smarter fit for a 3050ti. Fortunately bestbuy has a 14 day full refund policy if anyone is curious and wants to test drive the laptop
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bplink95Aug 30, 2021 7:00 PM
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https://www.bestbuy.com/site/asus...Id=6448933

Wouldn't this be a better deal?
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Aug 30, 2021 7:39 PM
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LazySurfer420
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Aug 30, 2021 7:39 PM
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Quote from TheWolfLoki View quoted comment :
I just bought the 3060 variant, I'm loving it. The fans are LOUD when gaming, but silent when doing anything basic.
(seriously, my hp omen laptop under full load is half the noise level)
Here's the reasons why I think the m16 is one of the best 2021 laptops:
16" 1440p@165hz 500nits VRR screen in the smallest chassis possible, only the msi gs76 and Lenovo legion 5pro/7 are close.
100w Power delivery on both USB-c ports, meaning you can use thunderbolt 4 at the same time as you charge on the other. (most only have PD on one at most)
Gaming performance on battery or USB PD is actually GREAT! Gpu is capped at 50w which gives roughly 3/4 the framerate. All other laptops tank gaming performance unless plugged in to full AC charger, they cap gpu memory clock at 810mhz (stock is 7000mhz) meaning you get honestly 1/9th the framerate.
This is super important if you want to game on the go or while traveling, especially in planes where the power outlets cap at 90w (usb PD to the rescue!).
Internals are VERY easy to work on if something ever breaks, all parts are easily available online and reasonable in price (fans, heatsink, screen, chassis, battery, etc)
And finally, the cpu in this model is actually FULLY UNLOCKED. You can enable overclocking in bios, you can set an undervolt in bios or windows, and set everything however you wish. It is a K-sku in everything but the name.

Downsides and why they don't matter to me:
LOUD fans under full load; headphones are your friend and it's silent otherwise.
Only 1 ram slot to upgrade; nobody really needs more than 40gb of ram in a laptop which has unupgradable cpu/gpu. This is hardly as a big a deal as everyone thinks.
Liquid Metal on gpu makes repasting a hassle and their factory application is sub-optimal, while temperatures ARE kept in check by those loud fans, maybe in a year or two they won't be and you'll have to do a liquid metal cleanup and reapplication.
Heat blowing into screen; the only people concerned about this have never had their hands on the laptop, while some of the heat goes into screen, it's actually minimal, the side vents and power button area are HOT to the touch after 1hr full load, back vents are warm, and screen is warm. Even if you game for 6 hours a day every day I don't think it's going to be a problem.

I bought a "satisfactory" open box 3060/i9 version from best buy for $1484, it had some smudges on keyboard which wiped off but now it looks brand new even with a magnifying glass.
If you can, I suggest 3060 to play games at 1440p. The 3050ti just isn't up to it but can play at 1080p no problem.
I have purchased the exact same model with exact open box condition. What's the battery life that you are getting?
I am seeing just average of 5hours on battery with Silent mode & iGPU on doing web surfing, youtube videos, & some coding work.
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Aug 30, 2021 7:41 PM
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LazySurfer420
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Quote from bplink95 View quoted comment :
https://www.bestbuy.com/site/asus...Id=6448933 [bestbuy.com]

Wouldn't this be a better deal?
That's a TUF dash version which basically means economy version. The processor used is 4 cores vs 8 cores in M16, that's huge difference in perf. The build quality & screen of M16 is far superior compared to that model.

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Quote from TheWolfLoki View quoted comment :
Oh that is weird! I didn't even notice it was a different display, honestly everything else looks the same though, and 1200p is a smarter fit for a 3050ti. Fortunately bestbuy has a 14 day full refund policy if anyone is curious and wants to test drive the laptop
I actually want 1200p, so this with maybe a 3060 or 3070 would be perfect. I don't need to buy til more like November but otherwise I might jump on this.
Aug 30, 2021 7:52 PM
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TheWolfLokiAug 30, 2021 7:52 PM
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Quote from LazySurfer420 View quoted comment :
I have purchased the exact same model with exact open box condition. What's the battery life that you are getting?
I am seeing just average of 5hours on battery with Silent mode & iGPU on doing web surfing, youtube videos, & some coding work.
5hrs silent mode is pretty on par with what I see, through Throttlestop I undervolted to -80mv core/cache and -40mv igpu, and capped cpu at 3.5ghz boost on battery, this gives me roughly 6-7 hours and no perveivable difference in snappiness.

Reviews all point towards 5hr battery life which makes perfect sense given 90wh battery and 18w low load consumption.
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Aug 30, 2021 7:59 PM
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LazySurfer420
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Quote from TheWolfLoki View quoted comment :
5hrs silent mode is pretty on par with what I see, through Throttlestop I undervolted to -80mv core/cache and -40mv igpu, and capped cpu at 3.5ghz boost on battery, this gives me roughly 6-7 hours and no perveivable difference in snappiness.

Reviews all point towards 5hr battery life which makes perfect sense given 90wh battery and 18w low load consumption.
I tried the undervolting from the BIOS by setting the offset to 80. But this kept crashing the laptop while playing games. Also that did not do much to the battery life.
haven't tried Throttlestop yet cause it seems too messy.
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DealhunterPNWAug 30, 2021 8:15 PM
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1200p 144hz screen, not the same as the 3060 model in all the reviews, that has 1600p 165hz 500 nits.

This is pretty expensive for a 3050ti
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Quote from LazySurfer420 View quoted comment :
I tried the undervolting from the BIOS by setting the offset to 80. But this kept crashing the laptop while playing games. Also that did not do much to the battery life.
haven't tried Throttlestop yet cause it seems too messy.
Yes I saw some people could only get away with -70mv or -50mv, just silicon lottery.

Throttlestop seems messy but it's super easy if all you want to do is limit boost clocks on battery, that's where you'll see biggest improvement in battery life.
In main screen open options and set it AC profile to 1 and Battery profile to 4, close options.
Open the FIVR screen, there are 4 pips to select which profile you're editing up top left, select the 4th pip(battery). Set all of the cores turbo to 35 multiplier in left hand side. Apply settings (saving voltages immediately)
There are guides online on how to get Throttlestop to run at boot in the background, you can follow those since they benefit from screenshots.

4.8Ghz uses like 1.1v
3.5Ghz uses like 0.8v
That's 300mv in difference, way more than a measly 80mv. This drops power consumption by roughly 25% (~20w down to ~15w) that's where you get battery life boost.
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TheWolfLokiAug 30, 2021 8:32 PM
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Quote from inner-G View quoted comment :
1200p 144hz screen, not the same as the 3060 model in all the reviews, that has 1600p 165hz 500 nits.

This is pretty expensive for a 3050ti
Yeah but even this 3050ti model with 1200p screen says it's 500 nits, so probably nicer than almost every other FHD laptop
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Quote from inner-G View quoted comment :
1200p 144hz screen, not the same as the 3060 model in all the reviews, that has 1600p 165hz 500 nits.

This is pretty expensive for a 3050ti
The 3050ti in this will have higher TGP than similar card in something like a Dell XPS.
Quote from TheWolfLoki View quoted comment :
Yes I saw some people could only get away with -70mv or -50mv, just silicon lottery.

Throttlestop seems messy but it's super easy if all you want to do is limit boost clocks on battery, that's where you'll see biggest improvement in battery life.
In main screen open options and set it AC profile to 1 and Battery profile to 4, close options.
Open the FIVR screen, there are 4 pips to select which profile you're editing up top left, select the 4th pip(battery). Set all of the cores turbo to 35 multiplier in left hand side. Apply settings (saving voltages immediately)
There are guides online on how to get Throttlestop to run at boot in the background, you can follow those since they benefit from screenshots.

4.8Ghz uses like 1.1v
3.5Ghz uses like 0.8v
That's 300mv in difference, way more than a measly 80mv. This drops power consumption by roughly 25% (~20w down to ~15w) that's where you get battery life boost.
Thanks a lot, will give this a try.

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TheWolfLokiAug 30, 2021 8:36 PM
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Quote from LazySurfer420 View quoted comment :
The 3050ti in this will have higher TGP than similar card in something like a Dell XPS.

Thanks a lot, will give this a try.
Battery life is extended by a lot when doing light tasks, but gaming, of course you'll see essentially no difference since saving 5w out of 80w from total system load is a much smaller benefit, though thermals are better by far!

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