Yes you can get equivalent spec'd laptops for cheaper but you're buying this for its light weight and long battery life. SSD is replaceable, RAM is soldered. Ryzen 5 with 8GB RAM is available for $649.99[lg.com].
'Fake' 8 core. It only has 8 threads instead of 16, so be warned that this performs like a quadcore with hyperthreading, and not a true full 8 core. Also Zen 2 with Vgea 7 IGP.
For <$800 you would be better off getting a i7-1165g7 much better performance in single and quad core performance, slightly worse in multicore, better IGP, quicksync for editing and transcoding, Id wait for the Samsung Galaxy Book Flex2 Alpha deals to come back, same or better specs, same weight and size class and $650 for the i7, samsung does these sales every few weeks so it will come back
'Fake' 8 core. It only has 8 threads instead of 16, so be warned that this performs like a quadcore with hyperthreading, and not a true full 8 core. Also Zen 2 with Vgea 7 IGP.
For <$800 you would be better off getting a i7-1165g7 much better performance in single and quad core performance, slightly worse in multicore, better IGP, quicksync for editing and transcoding, Id wait for the Samsung Galaxy Book Flex2 Alpha deals to come back, same or better specs, same weight and size class and $650 for the i7, samsung does these sales every few weeks so it will come back
um, nope. You are wrong. These are 8 hardware cores. There are no virtual cores on this CPU. This CPU does not support AMD's version of Hyperthreading, so it is an "8 core, 8 thread" CPU. https://www.amd.com/en/products/a...en-7-4700u
'Fake' 8 core. It only has 8 threads instead of 16, so be warned that this performs like a quadcore with hyperthreading, and not a true full 8 core. Also Zen 2 with Vgea 7 IGP.
For <$800 you would be better off getting a i7-1165g7 much better performance in single and quad core performance, slightly worse in multicore, better IGP, quicksync for editing and transcoding, Id wait for the Samsung Galaxy Book Flex2 Alpha deals to come back, same or better specs, same weight and size class and $650 for the i7, samsung does these sales every few weeks so it will come back
I think you got it wrong. I believe "fake" core refers to actual hyper-threaded core, e.g.: when there are 4 actual cores, but because of hyper-threading it looks like there's 8. In that case it indeed is only 4 cores. In this specific case I believe there are true 8 cores, they just don't support hyper-threading, so it does not look like 16. They still do operate 8 actual cores, none of them fake, and it certainly does not operate like a 4-core machine
A year ago this would have been a smoking deal. This year...still an OK price on a good laptop, but kinda dated. OEMs really need to get away from the "It's AMD so we have to sell it in the 'value' segment instead of making something balls-out awesome."
Intel doesn't always win on the speed front, but the rest of their ecosystem has always been superior. The EVO laptops are fantastic, much better than similar non-EVO machines.
Sadly Win 10 Home kills the deal for me. I need Win 10 Pro..
If you paid for it on a prior computer the license can follow you on the downgrade. Basically you revert the old computer back to windows home and move your license to this new one for pro.
'Fake' 8 core. It only has 8 threads instead of 16, so be warned that this performs like a quadcore with hyperthreading, and not a true full 8 core. Also Zen 2 with Vgea 7 IGP.
For <$800 you would be better off getting a i7-1165g7 much better performance in single and quad core performance, slightly worse in multicore, better IGP, quicksync for editing and transcoding, Id wait for the Samsung Galaxy Book Flex2 Alpha deals to come back, same or better specs, same weight and size class and $650 for the i7, samsung does these sales every few weeks so it will come back
This Ryzen 7 has 8 actual/real cores; and it's theoretically better than a similar speed 4-core Intel with Hyperthreading (4 real cores + 4 virtual cores) because not every program supports Hyperthreading (e.g. most games don't support hyperthreading at the moment). Even if a program suports hyperthreading, the virtual cores isn't 100% efficient....20-50% is the norm from what I've heard - so that Intel 4-core w/ HT you're comparing this to is more equivalent ot a 6-core instead of an 8 core. Virtual cores aren't efficient because the code has to be very well written - all about the timing of execution. This is probably the reason why most games don't have Hyperthreading - there are so many things/variables going on in a video game (depending on what buttons you push on your controller), that the timing of events (e.g. explosions) is always changing...which would throw off the execution of the hyperthreaded codes. Keyword here is "throws off" the timing of the code being executed on the virtual core - so in these instances, some programs with hyperthreading actually performs 10-20% worse on Hyperthreaded CPU's if the program isn't well-optimized.
'Fake' 8 core. It only has 8 threads instead of 16, so be warned that this performs like a quadcore with hyperthreading, and not a true full 8 core. Also Zen 2 with Vgea 7 IGP.
For <$800 you would be better off getting a i7-1165g7 much better performance in single and quad core performance, slightly worse in multicore, better IGP, quicksync for editing and transcoding, Id wait for the Samsung Galaxy Book Flex2 Alpha deals to come back, same or better specs, same weight and size class and $650 for the i7, samsung does these sales every few weeks so it will come back
Its actually a REAL 8 core processor and not a 4 core with 8 threads. It will perform better than a hyperthreaded 4 core, because each core has to share resources with two threads vice each core on an 8 core having their own resources.
Also, value means something different to different people. I am a fan of Warren Buffets definition of it. I suspect you mean cheap, within context. But value and cheap are not synonymous in the strictest and denote different reasons for the low cost.
"Value" isn't my terminology, it's the euphemism that the OEMs use to refer to their "cheap" options. If you don't like it then you can take it up with them.
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For <$800 you would be better off getting a i7-1165g7 much better performance in single and quad core performance, slightly worse in multicore, better IGP, quicksync for editing and transcoding, Id wait for the Samsung Galaxy Book Flex2 Alpha deals to come back, same or better specs, same weight and size class and $650 for the i7, samsung does these sales every few weeks so it will come back
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For <$800 you would be better off getting a i7-1165g7 much better performance in single and quad core performance, slightly worse in multicore, better IGP, quicksync for editing and transcoding, Id wait for the Samsung Galaxy Book Flex2 Alpha deals to come back, same or better specs, same weight and size class and $650 for the i7, samsung does these sales every few weeks so it will come back
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https://www.amd.com/en/products/a...en-7-4700u
For <$800 you would be better off getting a i7-1165g7 much better performance in single and quad core performance, slightly worse in multicore, better IGP, quicksync for editing and transcoding, Id wait for the Samsung Galaxy Book Flex2 Alpha deals to come back, same or better specs, same weight and size class and $650 for the i7, samsung does these sales every few weeks so it will come back
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For <$800 you would be better off getting a i7-1165g7 much better performance in single and quad core performance, slightly worse in multicore, better IGP, quicksync for editing and transcoding, Id wait for the Samsung Galaxy Book Flex2 Alpha deals to come back, same or better specs, same weight and size class and $650 for the i7, samsung does these sales every few weeks so it will come back
https://slickdeals.net/f/15250246-samsung-edu-epp-galaxy-book-flex2-alpha-laptop-i7-1165g7-16gb-ram-512gb-ssd-637-50-free-s-h?src=SiteSearc
This Ryzen 7 has 8 actual/real cores; and it's theoretically better than a similar speed 4-core Intel with Hyperthreading (4 real cores + 4 virtual cores) because not every program supports Hyperthreading (e.g. most games don't support hyperthreading at the moment). Even if a program suports hyperthreading, the virtual cores isn't 100% efficient....20-50% is the norm from what I've heard - so that Intel 4-core w/ HT you're comparing this to is more equivalent ot a 6-core instead of an 8 core. Virtual cores aren't efficient because the code has to be very well written - all about the timing of execution. This is probably the reason why most games don't have Hyperthreading - there are so many things/variables going on in a video game (depending on what buttons you push on your controller), that the timing of events (e.g. explosions) is always changing...which would throw off the execution of the hyperthreaded codes. Keyword here is "throws off" the timing of the code being executed on the virtual core - so in these instances, some programs with hyperthreading actually performs 10-20% worse on Hyperthreaded CPU's if the program isn't well-optimized.
For <$800 you would be better off getting a i7-1165g7 much better performance in single and quad core performance, slightly worse in multicore, better IGP, quicksync for editing and transcoding, Id wait for the Samsung Galaxy Book Flex2 Alpha deals to come back, same or better specs, same weight and size class and $650 for the i7, samsung does these sales every few weeks so it will come back
https://slickdeals.net/f/15250246-samsung-edu-epp-galaxy-book-flex2-alpha-laptop-i7-1165g7-16gb-ram-...
Also, value means something different to different people. I am a fan of Warren Buffets definition of it. I suspect you mean cheap, within context. But value and cheap are not synonymous in the strictest and denote different reasons for the low cost.