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TEAMGROUP MP33 PRO 1TB M.2 2280 PCIe Gen 3x4 NVME 1.3 Internal SSD @ $79.99 + F/S at Amazon/Newegg

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Amazon: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08GM8N3DB NLA

Newegg: https://www.newegg.com/team-group...6820331563 Now $82.99

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  • Max Sequential Read/Write: Up to 2100 / 1700 MBps
  • 4KB Random Read: Up to 220,000 IOPS
  • 4KB Random Write: Up to 200,000 IOPS
  • Terabytes Written (TBW): 600TB
  • MTBF: 2,000,000 hours
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I understand the TBW but can someone explain 2M hours of MTBF? Why even report it if it's more then an average human lifetime of 700,000 hrs? & how the hell do they test it for 228 yrs? SSD warranties only goes up to about 5yrs & with how technology evolves, this tech will be obsolete in 10 yrs. If it correlates to TBW, we write data more & more each year so I think it's kind of deceiving knowing this not solely based on current average consumer use but needs to be included in the calculation for drives' MTBF. Or am I missing something?
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I understand the TBW but can someone explain 2M hours of MTBF? Why even report it if it's more then an average human lifetime of 700,000 hrs? & how the hell do they test it for 228 yrs? SSD warranties only goes up to about 5yrs & with how technology evolves, this tech will be obsolete in 10 yrs. If it correlates to TBW, we write data more & more each year so I think it's kind of deceiving knowing this not solely based on current average consumer use but needs to be included in the calculation for drives' MTBF. Or am I missing something?
You can take that to SSD manufacturers and ask the questions. I am just sharing what shared by them.
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Anyone have experience with this ssd? Seems like a good deal
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Anyone have experience with this ssd? Seems like a good deal
Yes, this is a pretty solid deal and especially for this price. Normally, this Pro version goes around 110 USB and in most deals, it was around $90-$100 which you can see in SD. This is actually better performing than WD SN550 SSD.
I am using this SSD for around 1.5 years now in Dell G7 Gaming laptop as Game Drive.
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I understand the TBW but can someone explain 2M hours of MTBF? Why even report it if it's more then an average human lifetime of 700,000 hrs? & how the hell do they test it for 228 yrs? SSD warranties only goes up to about 5yrs & with how technology evolves, this tech will be obsolete in 10 yrs. If it correlates to TBW, we write data more & more each year so I think it's kind of deceiving knowing this not solely based on current average consumer use but needs to be included in the calculation for drives' MTBF. Or am I missing something?
One could easily argue that the TLC designation deserves far more credibility, than the softer dataset you object to.
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Nevermind....
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Did you mean the lack of TLC designation as a negative factor? The picture shows this is SLC caching. Your phrasing confused me since I could not find it in the specs. Then I saw it in the Newegg pics.
This is the full Amazon link Header:

TEAMGROUP MP33 PRO 1TB SLC Cache 3D NAND TLC NVMe 1.3 PCIe Gen3x4 M.2 2280 Internal Solid State Drive SSD (Read Speed up to 2100MB/s) TBW>600TB Compatible with Laptop & PC Desktop TM8FPD001T0C101


Since the Amazon link is first/top; I place the Newegg secondary/tertiary.

I write/root in/for priorities; but more and more SD'ers go in the opposite direction.
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This is the full Amazon link Header:

TEAMGROUP MP33 PRO 1TB SLC Cache 3D NAND TLC NVMe 1.3 PCIe Gen3x4 M.2 2280 Internal Solid State Drive SSD (Read Speed up to 2100MB/s) TBW>600TB Compatible with Laptop & PC Desktop TM8FPD001T0C101
Since the Amazon link is first/top; I place the Newegg secondary/tertiary.
I write/root in/for priorities; but more and more SD'ers go in the opposite direction.
Got it. So the Amz ttle says both terms. Forgive my ignorance, I thought it would be one or the other. I only read a little on Google search "TLC vs SLC, which is better?", because of Newegg's pic. So your knowledge helps.
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Got it. So the Amz ttle says both terms. Forgive my ignorance, I thought it would be one or the other. I only read a little on Google search "TLC vs SLC, which is better?", because of Newegg's pic. So your knowledge helps.
I'm not that clear on SLC Cache being acceptable for the average user, if the TLC is the priority. I'm more sure it's OS/program dependent on what's best for the end user.

On the other hand; these facts may be the very reason why I prefer Linux now. It, at least, makes me feel better about my increasing 'wonton' ignorance, as I get older and lazier.
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I understand the TBW but can someone explain 2M hours of MTBF? Why even report it if it's more then an average human lifetime of 700,000 hrs? & how the hell do they test it for 228 yrs? SSD warranties only goes up to about 5yrs & with how technology evolves, this tech will be obsolete in 10 yrs. If it correlates to TBW, we write data more & more each year so I think it's kind of deceiving knowing this not solely based on current average consumer use but needs to be included in the calculation for drives' MTBF. Or am I missing something?
It's a common statistical measure and allows you to understand your expected failure rate when you have a lot of these drives in service.
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I understand the TBW but...how the hell do they test it for 228 yrs? SSD warranties only goes up to about 5yrs & with how technology evolves, this tech will be obsolete in 10 yrs. If it correlates to TBW, we write data more & more each year so I think it's kind of deceiving knowing this not solely based on current average consumer use but needs to be included in the calculation for drives' MTBF. Or am I missing something?
I read they extrapolate the MTFB (Mean Time Between Failures) rate from taking sample sets over small periods of time and upscaling that data. I just think of it now as BS and marketing hype.

It's silly though when we know they have limited writes/rewrites, so they all will fail after that.
TBW is what we need to know, but they don't all put that stat up, so far. It should be required. Like OP suggested, it's time we questioned/complained to the mfg's for misleading us.
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I read they extrapolate the MTFB (Mean Time Between Failures) rate from taking sample sets over small periods of time and upscaling that data. I just think of it now as BS and marketing hype.

It's silly though when we know they have limited writes/rewrites, so they all will fail after that.
TBW is what we need to know, but they don't all put that stat up, so far. It should be required. Like OP suggested, it's time we questioned/complained to the mfg's for misleading us.
You got it, that's what I'm saying. Even if they put 700K hrs MTBF which is a human lifetime, does it really matter if it fails @ 40 yrs/half the MTBF because it's most likely be obsolete & most devices don't have that much life cycle. I think it's BS too.
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This is a DRAM less drive FYI!
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In case anyone's still looking at this deal, the amazon link, which says NLA, actually currently has the mp33 pro for cheaper than the newegg link at 72.99
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