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expired Posted by DesolateMoon • Oct 30, 2021
Oct 30, 2021 7:37 PM
Creality CR-10 Smart 3D Printer
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Prusas are very expensive for hobbyists and aren't free from problems. Look up 3d printing forums. You'll see that, yes most prusas are good, but you'll also read about CR-10s reputation for good quality. Plus if you get the lower tier Prusa $800 model, you'll spend 8-12 hrs assembling it. CR-10 takes maybe 20 minutes. Not to mention the comparably tiny build volume of the Prusa compared to this.
Then you THINK you have all the knowledge you need to print everything from here on out pefectly, you WILL BE WRONG about that. i've been FDM printing for 7 years. I've had 3 printers in that time and i just got into MSLA (resin) printing and i'm STILL tinkerin and failing with prints.
it's a constant learning process. The curve keeps on going.
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1) the ABL is a joke out of the box and you need to go find a working starting GCoDe online as the firmware is compiled with G28 forgetting the ABL mesh so it needs another gcode command to remember it, which is missing in the download Creality slicer. Nozzle carved a nice line in the glass the first time trying to print….. no manual leveling, so if abl doesn't work you are just screwed.
2) Plastic extruder cracked after two successful prints, this seems to be very very common. So order a metal one at the same time as the printer and save yourself some grief
3) Filiment sensor stopped working after the first successful print. Had to disable it else it would stop detecting the filament every 5 minutes and ask me to reload.
4) Wifi setup is a disaster. Never got it working with my Orbi system
5) Some of the 3rd party parts (Eg extruder) are interchangeable with the CR-10, but others are TBD (all metal hot end).
My experience with this printer was horrible, but others have been successful out of the box. My recommendation is if you value your time more then your money look elsewhere.
The holes and cuts in the gantry were off and not square as well, after hours of tinkering with that I got it just slightly more square and it seemed OK.
If I value my time at $10 an hour, those fixes along probably cost 100 to $150. And it needed more, to get it printing reliably I probably need a CR Touch. Extrusion is not as consistent either, and it won't be unless I upgrade that as well.
You can get good Creality printers, and you can fix them, but unless you need high volume and your budget to time ratio is really lopsided, you're going to be better off with a Prusa.
Keep in mind, quality control is not a guarantee, you just have much, much higher odds of initial success with a Prusa. Creality has it's place but don't act like it's such a fun thing to fix up for beginners. If I didn't have a lot of time to kill when I bought it, it probably would have killed the hobby for me
The holes and cuts in the gantry were off and not square as well, after hours of tinkering with that I got it just slightly more square and it seemed OK.
If I value my time at $10 an hour, those fixes along probably cost 100 to $150. And it needed more, to get it printing reliably I probably need a CR Touch. Extrusion is not as consistent either, and it won't be unless I upgrade that as well.
You can get good Creality printers, and you can fix them, but unless you need high volume and your budget to time ratio is really lopsided, you're going to be better off with a Prusa.
Keep in mind, quality control is not a guarantee, you just have much, much higher odds of initial success with a Prusa. Creality has it's place but don't act like it's such a fun thing to fix up for beginners. If I didn't have a lot of time to kill when I bought it, it probably would have killed the hobby for me
You can still have issues with Prusa, and I'm sure you get lemons, it's just whether it's half your bag or more is lemons vs maybe a tenth or less. I think Prusa is a tenth or less, and I think for most people it's worth their money if they actually want to enjoy just printing and modeling with less maintenance. If upgrades and tinkering are your thing, try a Creality.
My main frustrating with Slickdeals on this is that so, so many people recommend Creality as BEGINNER printers and act like it's this great buy because of what you get out of them AFTER you fix them. Great community, bla bla BS to the moon! There are a lot of active communities but there are so many versions of the printers and so many problems, varying solutions, etc. that you will spend half your time sifting through their great community for the RIGHT solution for you. I haven't had a problem yet but Prusa runs their own forum, support is supposed to be excellent, and I think it will be a better experience even when the Mini+ does finally have a problem.
The only thing I changed was disconnecting the built in WiFi and enabling USB so I could use OctoPi. Creality's smart solution still can't compete with OctoPrint.
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You can still have issues with Prusa, and I'm sure you get lemons, it's just whether it's half your bag or more is lemons vs maybe a tenth or less. I think Prusa is a tenth or less, and I think for most people it's worth their money if they actually want to enjoy just printing and modeling with less maintenance. If upgrades and tinkering are your thing, try a Creality.
My main frustrating with Slickdeals on this is that so, so many people recommend Creality as BEGINNER printers and act like it's this great buy because of what you get out of them AFTER you fix them. Great community, bla bla BS to the moon! There are a lot of active communities but there are so many versions of the printers and so many problems, varying solutions, etc. that you will spend half your time sifting through their great community for the RIGHT solution for you. I haven't had a problem yet but Prusa runs their own forum, support is supposed to be excellent, and I think it will be a better experience even when the Mini+ does finally have a problem.
The only thing I changed was disconnecting the built in WiFi and enabling USB so I could use OctoPi. Creality's smart solution still can't compete with OctoPrint.
I wouldn't recommend a Creality to anyone unless they had excess time and a DESIRE to tinker. I got my Ender 3 Pro in the $100 Microcenter deal, and I wish I had passed on it. I at least planned to ditch it when it got to frustrating, and it was easy to stop wasting time on it when I got to masking tape and glue sticks to fix adhesion because the glass bed I installed, which many said would fix it, actually made it worse. You will find 3 or 4 different solutions suggested for a problem, and that tells me I'm going to be wasting time.
Part of the "fun" (if you want to call it that) of owning a 3D printer is the tinkering. It's kind of like how car guys spend more time working on their car than driving it.
Part of the "fun" (if you want to call it that) of owning a 3D printer is the tinkering. It's kind of like how car guys spend more time working on their car than driving it.
You guys are using sugar water, glue sticks, and tape to keep your prints on the bed probably because the heating isn't as even, and it never will be.
It's fine if you want Creality just don't act like it's great gear. It's low quality that sometimes performs well, and if you have the patience, time, and funds for upgrade you can make an Ender 3 almost as good as a Prusa MK3S. The upgrade cost alone to get and Ender 3 close to the Prusa will have you within at most $200 bucks of the MK3S kit, maybe within $200 of the $1000 prebuilt version
This is a deal website, and Creality printers are just not as economical as you act. Like I said in my first comment, if you assign any dollar value over maybe $8 hr, the math will work out that Creality is a bad investment, unless you win the quality control lottery.
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