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However there are multiple studies that show melatonin is not a great supplement. Can lead to anxiety depression. And kills your dopaminergic drive aka less motivated to get moving and do stuff. I am currently still experimenting on whats best to use albeit small microdoses of melatonin did in fact work. (I bit a small peice off a 3mg pill..can easily last 5-10 nights but I'm not even worried if I throw the piece out)
Although like I previously mentioned, I no longer use it for the main fact that it can inhibit dopamine which far outweighs the sleep benefits.
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The Costco sleep aid tabs with doxylamine succinate are worse, those make me groggy for 12+ hrs even with half a pill.
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However there are multiple studies that show melatonin is not a great supplement. Can lead to anxiety depression. And kills your dopaminergic drive aka less motivated to get moving and do stuff. I am currently still experimenting on whats best to use albeit small microdoses of melatonin did in fact work. (I bit a small peice off a 3mg pill..can easily last 5-10 nights but I'm not even worried if I throw the piece out)
Although like I previously mentioned, I no longer use it for the main fact that it can inhibit dopamine which far outweighs the sleep benefits.
This is the scariest thing I've read on the internet all day.
and in fact taking too much, i.e. 5 mg can cause unintended consequences, such as not even being able to fall asleep
do this
30-45 minutes before you plan to lie down in bed
take 300mcg (ideally liquid dropper you can measure)
at 30 minutes, lay down in bed, maybe tv on or some music for next 15-20 minutes, but lights off
after 15-20 minutes, turn the tv/music off and see if it works for you
I see what you're getting at, but bear in mind that liquid melatonin is intended to be left under the tongue to be absorbed by the blood vessels. This product is intended to be digested rather than soaked in the mouth. As far as digestion is concerned, your stomach doesn't absorb anything and is just there to break down whatever enters. It's possible that much of the melatonin will be broken down in the stomach before it reaches the small intestine (the first area of the digestive tract where absorption takes place). Since you aren't marinating the blood vessels in your mouth with 10mg of melatonin, I wouldn't worry about it. The thing with melatonin is its delayed onset, hence why it's recommended to take it under the tongue to speed up the onset. Taking it orally and swallowing will take longer than your proposed method, but could be ideal with dinner.
to everyone who quoted me. (Tastyratz comment) this is exactly what i was referring to. Huberman's podcast goes in depth on why melatonin is detrimental. something i've known for a while but to not the extent of affecting dopamine. upon further research, the claims are more factually based than not. my previous mentions of possibly affecting anxiety and depression are also true and what i've known since my inception of starting to take melatonin exogenously.
it is known that high dose melatonin can be neuroprotective. but that is in certain cases and not meant to be done daily.. as in 10mg/night. noone should regularly dose this amount nightly. it should be used for "certain" instances.
it is a hormone and can down regulate natural production, while also messing with the bodies natural circadian rhythms. we should look to augment sleep in other ways that do not predispose the body to hormonal imbalances further affecting different pathways that one not might entirely know about.
yes we need sleep. but we need restful sleep that will make us be awake and alert enough to "hunt" the next day. allow your eyes to absorb natural sunlight daily via direct sunlight not inhibited by a window or glass. bluelight filters, dim lights past 7pm is the way to move towards sleep efficiency. and look into other modalities for supplementation!
if you must use melatonin...try the 300mcg method. it works better than you might think
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