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Synology DiskStation DS220j 2-Bay NAS Enclosure

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B&H Photo Video has Synology DiskStation DS220j 2-Bay NAS Enclosure on sale for $159.99. Shipping is free.

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Features:
  • 2x 3.5/2.5" SATA HDD/SSD Drive Bays
  • 1.4GHz Realtek RTD1296 Quad-Core
  • 512MB of DDR4 RAM
  • 1x Gigabit Ethernet Port
  • 2x USB 3.0 Type-A Ports
  • RAID 0, 1, Basic, Hybrid, and JBOD
  • Up to 112MB/s Reads and Writes
  • Hardware Encryption Engine
  • Synology DiskStation Manager OS

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    • Price good until 11/15/2021 11:59pm ET
    • Our research indicates that this offer is $12.90 lower (7% savings) than the next best available price from a reputable merchant with prices starting from $172.89
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B&H Photo Video has Synology DiskStation DS220j 2-Bay NAS Enclosure on sale for $159.99. Shipping is free.

Thanks to community member 69jojo for finding this deal.

Features:
  • 2x 3.5/2.5" SATA HDD/SSD Drive Bays
  • 1.4GHz Realtek RTD1296 Quad-Core
  • 512MB of DDR4 RAM
  • 1x Gigabit Ethernet Port
  • 2x USB 3.0 Type-A Ports
  • RAID 0, 1, Basic, Hybrid, and JBOD
  • Up to 112MB/s Reads and Writes
  • Hardware Encryption Engine
  • Synology DiskStation Manager OS

Editor's Notes

Written by megakimcheelove | Staff
  • About this deal:
    • Price good until 11/15/2021 11:59pm ET
    • Our research indicates that this offer is $12.90 lower (7% savings) than the next best available price from a reputable merchant with prices starting from $172.89
  • About this product:
    • Limited 2-Year Warranty
  • About this store:
    • B&H Photo Video return policy here
    • As a courtesy during the busy holiday season, we have extended our usual 30-day limit on returns and exchanges. You have until February 1, 2022 to return or exchange items purchased after October 18, 2021 through January 2, 2022. All other standard return policy conditions apply.

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Synology NAS are especially good as Apple Time Capsule backup device replacement and I've installed lots of these for that purpose.

IMO this model is too slow for anything else.

NAS with 2 bays is always better than a single bay (Having a single drive is just begging for data loss).
Wait for 220+
This will work great for anyone who doesn't need docker or the transcoding (Plex, Emby)

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Nov 16, 2021
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michaelmantis
Nov 16, 2021
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I'm still running strong on a DS216J and if you are just storing files on a local network and not doing any transcoding, the J series are more than enough.

The autosync features to cloud providers like OneDrive and Amazon are great and work just fine on the J series.

I haven't upgraded to the new OS (no real need for what I use the NAS for) and I'll wait until forced or there are no more security upgrades.

Buying the DS216J was the best ~$200 (plus drives) tech purchase that I've spent in the last few years.
Nov 16, 2021
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elusivturk
Nov 16, 2021
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I'm new to this. Finally time has come after losing painful amount of my recorded history. I'm looking at this since it's a good entry level just to get me going. My question is around this transcoding business. What does that mean? If I have 4K videos on here (since I will be using this to store and backup my videos on here) can I watch them in 4K? I just want to understand what I am missing out with this vs. DS220+. Thank you.
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Nov 16, 2021
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michaelmantis
Nov 16, 2021
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Quote from elusivturk :
I'm new to this. Finally time has come after losing painful amount of my recorded history. I'm looking at this since it's a good entry level just to get me going. My question is around this transcoding business. What does that mean? If I have 4K videos on here (since I will be using this to store and backup my videos on here) can I watch them in 4K? I just want to understand what I am missing out with this vs. DS220+. Thank you.
"Transcoding" is when you take video and convert it on the fly to a different resolution.

If you do not run a media service (like Plex) or other things off the NAS, and just access the video files natively, you will not have an issue.

The "J" series Synology NAS have slow processors and cannot convert 4k video to 1080p on the fly like the "Plus" or higher series.

If you have 4k videos and want to stream them right from the NAS (by opening the files themselves) you will not have any issue.
Nov 16, 2021
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Racer_X_
Nov 16, 2021
452 Posts
Quote from Vicdagod :
Funny enough I started with a DS211j back in 2011 and, then a DS418j in 2018 which I still use as a backup. Now I have the DS920+ since 2020 which is used for sharing media and downloading lots of shit. I no longer use the 2 bay it's so slow. I guess I'll gift it to someone.
Well, if you don't find anyone in your close circle, I'd take it off your hands if you were looking to get rid of it. I'm starting to think of these, (NASes in general) for my setup but I know almost nothing about them, or more advanced computer stuff like this in general. I'm looking for a 'learner' device and top of that list is not spending a lot of money or wasting money on something I don't need or can't make sense of.

Just a thought! Smilie
Nov 16, 2021
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HunterOne
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advcomp2019
Nov 16, 2021
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This does sound like a good deal, but then again I might just keep looking.

The only reason why I have been looking at other NAS hardware is I almost lost my data from the WD MyBook Live security bug. Luckily my drive was not hit.
Nov 16, 2021
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tsog
Nov 16, 2021
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I was debating this or the TS-230 or building a NAS myself a few weeks back. I ended up going with the TS-230 at the same price when it was on sale at Amazon: https://slickdeals.net/f/15314260-qnap-ts-230-2-bay-realtek-rtd1296-arm-cortex-a53-quad-core-1-4-ghz...

I mainly wanted a NAS to replace the external HDD + router setup I have to a setup with redundancy for when a drive fails. Got down a rabbit hole researching ZFS, and to build a NAS with the specs I wanted (SFF 2-bay + enough CPU/RAM for TrueNAS) would've cost me probably $500 for the server alone, so I ended up settling for the low end 2-bay prebuilt models.

I'm pretty new to NAS, but figured 2GB vs 0.5GB would let me run more apps, if I wanted to. For one, the extra RAM seems to allow the TS-230 to support snapshots whereas the DS220j doesn't. Either one is probably good enough for basic file storage/serving and not much else, so I'd say it's down to how cheap you can find them. FWIW I ended up spending just under $500 before tax for the NAS and 2x 14TB@$170 each, a bit pricy just for file storage but I'm still learning what all a NAS can do.

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Homer3D
Nov 16, 2021
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I have this exact unit. I use it has my file server, backup server, FTP server and my Plex server (no transcoding). Works great for my needs. Very good budget option.
Nov 16, 2021
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trikster2
Nov 16, 2021
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Quote from mike66 :
This one seems to be a better deal IMO. A x86 processor with 4GB RAM

https://www.amazon.com/QNAP-TS-25...RQVYV&th=1 [amazon.com]
You spend twice as much and get something better? What a concept. Apples vs oranges when you factor in price.....
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trikster2
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For most folks this will never matter (I hope) but Synology's EULA is one of the strangest in the industry basically giving them the right to search your house if you accept. Also... I'd wait til BF since it's so close. The 220j was $20+ cheaper last BF. Regarding performance: Fine for backup or if you just want to share files. Lower end CPU also translates into better power savings vs the intel based alternatives. If you need to run a lot of apps then yeah get something faster but if not "save the planet" and go with something that meets your requirements without wasting RAM or power.

https://www.synology.com/en-globa...terms_EULA


Section 7. Audit. Synology will have the right to audit your compliance with the terms of this EULA. You agree to grant Synology a right to access to your facilities, equipment, books, records and documents and to otherwise reasonably cooperate with Synology in order to facilitate any such audit by Synology or its agent authorized by Synology.
Last edited by trikster2 November 15, 2021 at 11:39 PM.
Nov 16, 2021
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pixus
Nov 16, 2021
137 Posts
Got this one just because it's White - will fit interior better.
Nov 16, 2021
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Jaxidian
Nov 16, 2021
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Quote from trikster2 :
For most folks this will never matter (I hope) but Synology's EULA is one of the strangest in the industry basically giving them the right to search your house if you accept. Also... I'd wait til BF since it's so close. The 220j was $20+ cheaper last BF. Regarding performance: Fine for backup or if you just want to share files. Lower end CPU also translates into better power savings vs the intel based alternatives. If you need to run a lot of apps then yeah get something faster but if not "save the planet" and go with something that meets your requirements without wasting RAM or power.

https://www.synology.com/en-globa...terms_EULA [synology.com]


Section 7. Audit. Synology will have the right to audit your compliance with the terms of this EULA. You agree to grant Synology a right to access to your facilities, equipment, books, records and documents and to otherwise reasonably cooperate with Synology in order to facilitate any such audit by Synology or its agent authorized by Synology.
There are actually a lot of licensing agreements like this around license enforcement. Whether it's for VPN licenses on network appliances or something else, this isn't that uncommon.

On one hand, this will only realistically be used if they think somebody is somehow circumventing their licensing in some major way (ex: only 5 email licenses are included by default, unless you buy more). On the other hand, it's kinda ridiculous that this isn't tied to specific scenarios to exempt normal home users.

In the end, we complain about it but we still use the stuff. :-(
Nov 16, 2021
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aegrotatio
Nov 16, 2021
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I have the 2018 version of this (DS218j). The processor is strong enough and I'm baffled why they only put 512 MB of memory in it. I'm even more baffled that the 2020 version (DS220j) in this deal also only has 512 MB of memory.

I am upgrading to the DS220+ instead, which comes with 2 GB of memory and can be upgraded, along with a much stronger processor.

I'm still puzzled why Synology only puts 512MB in the "j" series even though the software offers features that far exceed the memory provided but don't exceed the CPU provided.
Nov 17, 2021
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slickCL11
Nov 17, 2021
545 Posts
Quote from Cyanic :
According to their release notes, you shouldn't upgrade to 7 if it doesn't have 1GB of RAM. But then tells you its compatible with the 220J, although it only has 512MB and is not upgradeable.

https://www.synology.com/en-globa...seNote/DSM [synology.com]
Better wait for the + version. DS218+ and future proof. running here with 10GB of RAM (2 + 8 installed).
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Quote from Jaxidian :
There are actually a lot of licensing agreements like this around license enforcement. Whether it's for VPN licenses on network appliances or something else, this isn't that uncommon.

On one hand, this will only realistically be used if they think somebody is somehow circumventing their licensing in some major way (ex: only 5 email licenses are included by default, unless you buy more). On the other hand, it's kinda ridiculous that this isn't tied to specific scenarios to exempt normal home users.

In the end, we complain about it but we still use the stuff. :-(
Quote from Jaxidian :
There are actually a lot of licensing agreements like this around license enforcement. Whether it's for VPN licenses on network appliances or something else, this isn't that uncommon.

On one hand, this will only realistically be used if they think somebody is somehow circumventing their licensing in some major way (ex: only 5 email licenses are included by default, unless you buy more). On the other hand, it's kinda ridiculous that this isn't tied to specific scenarios to exempt normal home users.

In the end, we complain about it but we still use the stuff. :-(
Name one with something similar to: "grant Synology a right to access to your facilities, equipment, books, records and documents"

I've never seen anything like this for any other network equipment.

Any such EULA (allowing a Republic of China company access to your property/records/documents) would make it a non-starter for U.S. government purchases so it would be hard to imagine any major network vendor including it?

And VPN? Privacy software that gives a foreign company access to your books/records/facilities? I don't believe it. Show me one.....

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