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Because temps drop a few degrees at night, which exasterbate low batteries (alkaline batteries drop voltage at lower temps). Low batteries cause chirps ...
I've had these for about 6 years. Great units. Smartthings hub. Maybe there are other good models now, but at the time this was the only battery operated communicating fire/CO unit I could find. I really like seeing which unit is alerting, via naming by room. I have 8 or 9 of these and none have failed.
For what it's worth, I bought these to go with my ring system and they've been very reliable. Easy install and pairing with my system, when one goes off the system makes them all go off (similar to hardwired) and triggers notification to ring/fire department if not cancelled out by you as erroneous.
Also nice that by integrating it to Ring, it'll tell you when batteries are low instead of doing the monthly checks that, let's face it, few people actually do. Finally, I've had to change the batteries once in 1.5 years-- really not bad.
I absolutely want the hardwired version but it doesn't exist yet. I hear these batteries only last 6 months or a year Max so definitely a concern to keep it on the network. I heard they were going to release a version but covid delayed development
Why is it that all smoke detectors wait until after 2am to start chirping? It's way beyond law of averages at this point - I'd say 90% of my battery low chirps come after 2am.
Because temps drop a few degrees at night, which exasterbate low batteries (alkaline batteries drop voltage at lower temps). Low batteries cause chirps ...
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So can this send mobile alerts without having to have ring or the other smart ecosystems it list in the post? Or is that feature only available when tied to one of those?
Has to have a zwave hub if you want notifications on your phone, but will chirp/sound the alarm for nearby people even without a hub.
I absolutely want the hardwired version but it doesn't exist yet. I hear these batteries only last 6 months or a year Max so definitely a concern to keep it on the network. I heard they were going to release a version but covid delayed development
These have been out a long time (6 years+) and still no wired version. I have 8 or 9 units and battery life has been very good. I do not change 9 sets a year, so I'd estimate 1.5 years. Maybe it depends on the density of the mesh.
No. These are Zwave. Philips Hue Hub uses Zigbee. You will need a hub like Smartthings or Hubitat. Or you can get a USB Zwave dongle and build your own on something like a Raspberry Pi using Home Assistant.
Once you have the above - you can setup some kind of rule to flash your Hue lights if it detects CO2 or fire
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Why is it that all smoke detectors wait until after 2am to start chirping? It's way beyond law of averages at this point - I'd say 90% of my battery low chirps come after 2am.
Maybe it's because you always replace the battery at 2 a.m.? So it runs low at 2 a.m. every time
It's zigbee so it needs a hub to connect to for alerts.
Ordered a pack to try out. Been using nest protect but they keep falling off my network periodically. And these are a lot cheaper so since I have a ring alarm figured I'd try these out. Since it's Costco can always return.
These are Z-wave, not ZigBee. They are not compatible, although some hubs have both radios.
Sidenote -- ZigBee is more of the suggestion of a standard protocol, rather than fully interoperable. They are trying to rebrand it, but I don't know if they're going to fix that issue.
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So I recently did a lot of reading on fire alarms since I have to replace the ones in my house and the best scenario is having both ionization and photoelectric sensors to detect both smoldering and fast moving fires. This only has Photoelectric, and if you want both it usually doesn't have CO monitoring included.
That's what I found, looking at "normal" priced units.
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Also nice that by integrating it to Ring, it'll tell you when batteries are low instead of doing the monthly checks that, let's face it, few people actually do. Finally, I've had to change the batteries once in 1.5 years-- really not bad.
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Once you have the above - you can setup some kind of rule to flash your Hue lights if it detects CO2 or fire
Ordered a pack to try out. Been using nest protect but they keep falling off my network periodically. And these are a lot cheaper so since I have a ring alarm figured I'd try these out. Since it's Costco can always return.
Sidenote -- ZigBee is more of the suggestion of a standard protocol, rather than fully interoperable. They are trying to rebrand it, but I don't know if they're going to fix that issue.
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That's what I found, looking at "normal" priced units.
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