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Nov 22, 2021 11:25 PM

Pioneer 12K BTU Ductless Mini Split Inverter Air Conditioner w/ Heat Pump

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Home Depot has Pioneer Low-Ambient 12,000 BTU 1 Ton 19 SEER Ductless Mini Split Wall Mounted Inverter Air Conditioner with Heat Pump on sale for $614.40. Shipping is free.

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Features:
  • Cooling capacity: 12,000 BTU/hour with 19.0 SEER efficiency
  • Heating capacity: 12,500 BTU/H with 9.5 HSPF efficiency
  • Includes:
    • Indoor (Fan coil) Section
    • Outdoor (Condenser) Section
    • Wireless Remote Controller with Remote Holder
    • 16' Line Set with other installation accessories
    • Free Vibration Absorber Feet

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Home Depot has Pioneer Low-Ambient 12,000 BTU 1 Ton 19 SEER Ductless Mini Split Wall Mounted Inverter Air Conditioner with Heat Pump on sale for $614.40. Shipping is free.

Thanks community member n74740 for sharing this deal

Features:
  • Cooling capacity: 12,000 BTU/hour with 19.0 SEER efficiency
  • Heating capacity: 12,500 BTU/H with 9.5 HSPF efficiency
  • Includes:
    • Indoor (Fan coil) Section
    • Outdoor (Condenser) Section
    • Wireless Remote Controller with Remote Holder
    • 16' Line Set with other installation accessories
    • Free Vibration Absorber Feet

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Nov 23, 2021 4:42 AM
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ProtegeNov 23, 2021 4:42 AM
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Quote from kacki View quoted comment :
This is very promising as a solution to a master bedroom that is the last stop in the line and heats and cools inadequately. I looked at the installation instructions and they are sparse at best. Can anyone speak to, or point to a better instruction set, that will help me visualize the level of effort/skill required?

Alternately, what would be the best guess (I understand there will be a range of costs) for an electrician to install this in an upper story, with the outside unit being at ground level? $200? $500? Any idea? (would get the 120 so no additional wiring I hope).
I bought a 12k 110v unit from eBay for $550. Arrived in good shape. They are very efficient even for my large celing living room.

IMO if your using this just for cooling your better off getting a midea U 12k. Mine only uses 600-800 watts, and cools a 250sq ft room fast.
Nov 23, 2021 4:47 AM
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TodayOnlyNov 23, 2021 4:47 AM
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Quote from kacki View quoted comment :
This is very promising as a solution to a master bedroom that is the last stop in the line and heats and cools inadequately. I looked at the installation instructions and they are sparse at best. Can anyone speak to, or point to a better instruction set, that will help me visualize the level of effort/skill required?

Alternately, what would be the best guess (I understand there will be a range of costs) for an electrician to install this in an upper story, with the outside unit being at ground level? $200? $500? Any idea? (would get the 120 so no additional wiring I hope).
we have a similar mbr at the end of the run and one of these helped out a lot. easier and much cheaper to keep just the mbr cooler or warmer then the whole house with central. we had the outside half put on the backside of the garage. the noise is very minimal.
Nov 23, 2021 6:06 AM
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SnowbearzNov 23, 2021 6:06 AM
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Looks like this is their Diamante (WYT) series - TCL OEMs.
Nov 23, 2021 11:50 AM
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westshoreNov 23, 2021 11:50 AM
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Done right the installation cost by a professional will be 2 - 3x the unit cost when you factor in electrical, addtional lineset, additional comm cable, lineset cover, condenser pad, ...
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Nov 23, 2021 12:16 PM
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ToolDealsNov 23, 2021 12:16 PM
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Quote from Coffeelover696969 View quoted comment :
how efficient? anyone know the estimated cost difference between running these vs running a central air system? let's say. 2 of these to cool 2k Sq ft vs 1 central air unit to cool the same area+
Just for cooling, the 19 Seer rating of this unit (they sold out of the 20 Seer) is going to require a comparable rated central air system to compete. The higher the efficiency, the more a system costs. For central, if you don't already have central air or heat with the appropriate ducts, you will have to add those and balance the system for efficiency --- you cannot blow air into a bottle, so returns are very important with balancing.

For heating choices, that is going to depend on electric or gas costs per btu at your location and the efficiency of the unit. The OP is electric. On here, anyone would just be guessing at what is the most cost effective.

You should really have a local professional guide you through the process for your application.
Last edited by ToolDeals November 23, 2021 at 04:19 AM.
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Nov 23, 2021 12:30 PM
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ToolDealsNov 23, 2021 12:30 PM
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Quote from hajalie24 View quoted comment :
How easy is this to install yourself? If difficult, how much would you expect to pay someone?

edit: nvm this is 230v so too much hassle to get that installed as well
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I think you will find most 110-120v systems will require a dedicate line to carry the required amperage. If I am going to run a dedicated line, a 220-240v unit will typically be more efficient.

With the compressor pre-charged for twice the included line footage and the lines pre-vacuumed, you could probably get by without a vacuum pump, gauges and recovery tank to capture the pre-charge. Otherwise, you will have a service call to make the system perfect.
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Nov 23, 2021 4:02 PM
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SmartMallard330Nov 23, 2021 4:02 PM
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"Also, the new system for military discounts that gives the discount for online orders is working for this taking an additional $61.44 off!"

What is this new system? Link?

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Nov 23, 2021 4:04 PM
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OxyGen87Nov 23, 2021 4:04 PM
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Quote from kacki View quoted comment :
This is very promising as a solution to a master bedroom that is the last stop in the line and heats and cools inadequately. I looked at the installation instructions and they are sparse at best. Can anyone speak to, or point to a better instruction set, that will help me visualize the level of effort/skill required?

Alternately, what would be the best guess (I understand there will be a range of costs) for an electrician to install this in an upper story, with the outside unit being at ground level? $200? $500? Any idea? (would get the 120 so no additional wiring I hope).
Look up videos on youtube
Nov 23, 2021 4:06 PM
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whitetrashwarriorNov 23, 2021 4:06 PM
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Quote from hajalie24 View quoted comment :
How easy is this to install yourself? If difficult, how much would you expect to pay someone?

edit: nvm this is 230v so too much hassle to get that installed as well
You can do it. Yourube makes it easy
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Nov 23, 2021 4:08 PM
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hochiinnNov 23, 2021 4:08 PM
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Quote from SmartMallard330 View quoted comment :
"Also, the new system for military discounts that gives the discount for online orders is working for this taking an additional $61.44 off!"

What is this new system? Link?
i just now did this. you go to your account, and there will be a link to give your military details. it will also ask for some proof, i uploaded my dd214, and it took about 5 minutes. this is excellent, dunno if it is for everything(like online purchases). lowes has been doing this for years
Nov 23, 2021 4:17 PM
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Donny242Nov 23, 2021 4:17 PM
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Need help here, I have an 800sq ft garage reasonably insulated, which size/unit should I get?
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Nov 23, 2021 4:20 PM
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gammaimagr
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Nov 23, 2021 4:20 PM
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Seems like a lot of questions and conjecture surrounding this, so thought I'd highlight some of the points from my install. I bought this exact unit in the summer. I read the instructions thoroughly and used youtube to prepare for the install. There were some how to videos of pretty much this exact brand and unit. I had a vacuum pump and gauge set already, and I picked up a 45 degree AC flaring tool (always looking for reasons to buy new tools!).


1. You get the outside unit, inside unit, 16' line set, wiring between inside and outside unit, wall bracket, wall template, remote, and misc hardware.

2. The line set has a nitrogen charge in it to prevent contamination which bleeds off when you pull the caps off. This is NOT refrigerant. Also, you may very well have to cut the lines and re-flare the ends if the lines are significantly too long. Coiling the excess line is a bad idea.

3. There is a nice template to lay out your inside unit. A bracket is mounted to the wall that the inside unit clips onto. You attach the lines to the inside unit (can be configured to exit right, left, or straight out the back), run the lines and wire thru the wall, and attach the inside unit to the wall.

4. Outside, you either mount the outside unit to a pad or to your wall with brackets (not included). You then attach the the lines and wiring coming from the inside unit.

5. 12/2 wire and a 15 amp breaker (must be it's own circuit, not shared) is appropriate. An outside disconnect at the unit should be used. The inside and outside unit are connected to each other with the provided wire(wires are labeled). The electrical service you provide attaches to the outside unit.

6. You attach your low-side (blue) gauge to the port, attach your pump to the manifold (usually yellow) and pull a vacuum on the lines for about 15 minute.Turn off the valve on the gauge and turn off the pump. Open the 3-way valve for 5 seconds then close it. Leave the gauge attached for 15 minutes or so watching to ensure the gauge doesn't move (this is your leak test, not the vacuum). Open high and low pressure valves completely.
Last edited by n74740 November 23, 2021 at 10:48 AM.
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Nov 23, 2021 4:22 PM
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todxNov 23, 2021 4:22 PM
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Believe these qualify for a 300 tax credit as well. You can also buy 15 percent off coupons on eBay to get it even cheaper
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Nov 23, 2021 4:23 PM
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Dh3256Nov 23, 2021 4:23 PM
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Quote from n74740 View quoted comment :
There are some special tools you need to have like a manifold gauge set and vacuum pump, but those can be had fairly cheap and it's a good reason to buy new tools!
Also an EPA license is required to legally work with refrigerants. It may be better to install the unit then hire an HVAC person to charge the refrigerant.
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Nov 23, 2021 4:28 PM
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ZFrogNov 23, 2021 4:28 PM
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Is this too powerful for a 40HC container? I think it is about 300sq ft.

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