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expiredjasonvr posted Nov 23, 2021 07:02 PM
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8TB Toshiba N300 NAS Systems 7200 RPM 3.5" Internal Hard Drive

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Newegg has 8TB Toshiba N300 NAS Systems 7200 RPM 3.5" Internal Hard Drive (HDWG480XZSTA) on sale for $234.99 - Extra $75 Off w/ promo code BCMAY22339 (apply in cart) = $159.99. Shipping is free.

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About the Product
  • 7200 RPM 256MB Cache
  • SATA 6.0Gb/s
  • For NAS systems
  • Desktop RAID and servers
  • Multimedia service storage
  • Private cloud storage
  • Small business server/storage
Warranty
  • Includes a 1-year warranty w/ purchase

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  • Price Research: Purchase this device today and save $75 Off (31.92% Savings) from the original list price of $234.99
  • The Toshiba N300 is designed to meet the reliability, performance, endurance, and scalability requirements of 24/7 network attached storage application for personal, home office and small business use
  • Limit 5 per customer
  • Offer valid through November 30, 2021 or while promotion/supplies last
Additional Note
  • Please refer to the forum thread for additional details - Discombobulated

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Written by jasonvr
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Newegg has 8TB Toshiba N300 NAS Systems 7200 RPM 3.5" Internal Hard Drive (HDWG480XZSTA) on sale for $234.99 - Extra $75 Off w/ promo code BCMAY22339 (apply in cart) = $159.99. Shipping is free.

Thanks to community member jasonvr for finding this deal

Note, must be sold/shipped by Newegg. Must apply the listed promo code in cart to receive discount.

About the Product
  • 7200 RPM 256MB Cache
  • SATA 6.0Gb/s
  • For NAS systems
  • Desktop RAID and servers
  • Multimedia service storage
  • Private cloud storage
  • Small business server/storage
Warranty
  • Includes a 1-year warranty w/ purchase

Editor's Notes

Written by Discombobulated | Staff
  • Price Research: Purchase this device today and save $75 Off (31.92% Savings) from the original list price of $234.99
  • The Toshiba N300 is designed to meet the reliability, performance, endurance, and scalability requirements of 24/7 network attached storage application for personal, home office and small business use
  • Limit 5 per customer
  • Offer valid through November 30, 2021 or while promotion/supplies last
Additional Note
  • Please refer to the forum thread for additional details - Discombobulated

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_A2
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Hmmm...

1. Locate model numbers for both drives
2. Locate and download PDF spec sheet for both drive
3. Compare
4. PROFIT?!?!?!?

I'm not saying this to be an *sshole, I'm saying it because it's something I would do. After having done that, I might ask for advice. For people's personal experiences which don't show up in spec sheets.

Also keep in mind when you say "WD Reds" there are now WD Red, Red Plus, and Red Pro drives I think. Which makes it a bit of a pain in the ass to compare.

Toshiba drive: HDWG480XZSTA Datasheet link [toshiba-storage.com]

WD Red data sheet: Link
[westerndigital.com]WD Red Plus data sheet: Link [westerndigital.com]


I didn't share the WD Red Pro PDF link because I'm pretty sure they're in another league in terms of warranty (5 years versus 3), performance, etc.

You might consider "shucking" WD EasyStore drives from Best Buy. I currently have 2x8TB WD EasyStore drives, shucked from their enclosures, in a basic Synology DS220j.

I also have 3x8TB WD Gold and one more 10TB WD EasyStore shucked also. EasyStores were purchased at Best Buy ("EasyStore" is exclusive to Best Buy, I believe). The 8TB and 10TB EasyStores which I shucked are Helium filled drives. Not all drives will be Helium filled. With part numbers that match FCC or other filings for DeskStar Enterprise grade drives. Plenty to read on Reddit and other sites about drive shucking. Interesting stuff. Also, warranty is not voided by shucking. Hope you find this helpful.
Hat-Trick
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So, in your opinion (since you've read and researched) are they better than the WD Red Plus?
DadLovesBluey
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Here's one resource for trying to gauge real world reliability between drives. Backblaze keeps statistics for all of the drives they use in their data centers. You will have to look through multiple sheets/ years and also do some research to see if the drives you are considering are in the same families as the drives they use, but still a pretty cool non-biased resource:

https://www.backblaze.com/b2/hard...-data.html

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Nov 24, 2021 02:08 PM
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GeorgeMcFlyNov 24, 2021 02:08 PM
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Quote from NiravP3261 :
On the newegg products page - the warranty is listed as 3 years. So I'm confused.

Also on Toshiba's page - it indicates that its 3 years.

https://www.toshiba-storage.com/p...ives-n300/ [toshiba-storage.com]
good point.. looks like the slickdeals main post needs to be fixed. thanks.
Nov 24, 2021 02:25 PM
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jomeyqNov 24, 2021 02:25 PM
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Quote from SweetCorn :
7200RPM drives are very noisy unless you put them far away. particularly TOSHIBA ones. I got rid of them last year.
The noise is one issue. To me the bigger one is heat and vibration. Those are generally big factors in the longevity of components and devices. For something like a NAS that will be running 24/7 for a long time, using lower rotation speed drives can be a big help in improving reliability, and to me reliability is concern number one when it comes to a NAS.
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Nov 24, 2021 02:26 PM
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Coolcat23Nov 24, 2021 02:26 PM
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Quote from _A2 :
Hmmm...

1. Locate model numbers for both drives
2. Locate and download PDF spec sheet for both drive
3. Compare
4. PROFIT?!?!?!?

I'm not saying this to be an *sshole, I'm saying it because it's something I would do. After having done that, I might ask for advice. For people's personal experiences which don't show up in spec sheets.

Also keep in mind when you say "WD Reds" there are now WD Red, Red Plus, and Red Pro drives I think. Which makes it a bit of a pain in the ass to compare.

Toshiba drive: HDWG480XZSTA Datasheet link [toshiba-storage.com]

WD Red data sheet: Link
[westerndigital.com]WD Red Plus data sheet: Link [westerndigital.com]


I didn't share the WD Red Pro PDF link because I'm pretty sure they're in another league in terms of warranty (5 years versus 3), performance, etc.

You might consider "shucking" WD EasyStore drives from Best Buy. I currently have 2x8TB WD EasyStore drives, shucked from their enclosures, in a basic Synology DS220j.

I also have 3x8TB WD Gold and one more 10TB WD EasyStore shucked also. EasyStores were purchased at Best Buy ("EasyStore" is exclusive to Best Buy, I believe). The 8TB and 10TB EasyStores are Helium filled drives. With part numbers that match FCC or other filings for DeskStar Enterprise grade drives. Plenty to read on Reddit and other sites about drive shucking. Interesting stuff. Also, warranty is not voided by shucking. Hope you find this helpful.
The warranty is voided.
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Nov 24, 2021 02:29 PM
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Woden501Nov 24, 2021 02:29 PM
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Quote from _A2 :
Hmmm...

1. Locate model numbers for both drives
2. Locate and download PDF spec sheet for both drive
3. Compare
4. PROFIT?!?!?!?

I'm not saying this to be an *sshole, I'm saying it because it's something I would do. After having done that, I might ask for advice. For people's personal experiences which don't show up in spec sheets.

Also keep in mind when you say "WD Reds" there are now WD Red, Red Plus, and Red Pro drives I think. Which makes it a bit of a pain in the ass to compare.

Toshiba drive: HDWG480XZSTA Datasheet link [toshiba-storage.com]

WD Red data sheet: Link
[westerndigital.com]WD Red Plus data sheet: Link [westerndigital.com]


I didn't share the WD Red Pro PDF link because I'm pretty sure they're in another league in terms of warranty (5 years versus 3), performance, etc.

You might consider "shucking" WD EasyStore drives from Best Buy. I currently have 2x8TB WD EasyStore drives, shucked from their enclosures, in a basic Synology DS220j.

I also have 3x8TB WD Gold and one more 10TB WD EasyStore shucked also. EasyStores were purchased at Best Buy ("EasyStore" is exclusive to Best Buy, I believe). The 8TB and 10TB EasyStores are Helium filled drives. With part numbers that match FCC or other filings for DeskStar Enterprise grade drives. Plenty to read on Reddit and other sites about drive shucking. Interesting stuff. Also, warranty is not voided by shucking. Hope you find this helpful.
All that about doing your own research, and you have to go and be completely wrong about the 8TB drives being helium filled. That was the case at one point, but they are and have been since at least April standard drives. I've got three of them shucked that were purchased in two transactions (April and September), and they're all white label, non-helium drives. I'm less sure about the 10TB I purchased last year, but judging by the temps it reaches in it's enclosure I'm going to assume it's not helium filled either.
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Nov 24, 2021 03:39 PM
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_A2Nov 24, 2021 03:39 PM
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Quote from Coolcat23 :
The warranty is voided.
LOL.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mag...prov=sfti1
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Nov 24, 2021 03:58 PM
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geezeefosheezeeNov 24, 2021 03:58 PM
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These are typically solid drives from a reliability standpoint, but as others have mentioned the noise is a real issue. My NAS is in my office adjacent to my living room, and even with the office door closed I can hear write operations from this drive.

And i know it's this drive specifically because it's the only Toshiba in my array, and only became audible after I added the drive to replace a different brand.
Nov 24, 2021 04:05 PM
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oliverjiaNov 24, 2021 04:05 PM
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Is this a SMR or PMR drive? Plan to buy one to be used in my desktop computer, but if it's SMR I'll pass.

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xcopyNov 24, 2021 04:22 PM
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Quote from royalwe :
I was interested until I saw the warranty is only 1 year
[QUOTE=GeorgeMcFly;151381918]yes, I was surprised by that.. even 2 years IMO isn't enough.. should be 3+.[/QUOTE

Exactly... ^^^^

So in summary, what's that telling us about the expected reliability?

From experience, there's a reason drives come with a 1-year warranty, and it's really, really not good....
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Nov 24, 2021 04:24 PM
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xcopyNov 24, 2021 04:24 PM
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Quote from oliverjia :
Is this a SMR or PMR drive? Plan to buy one to be used in my desktop computer, but if it's SMR I'll pass.
I'm guessing it's a "SHTR" (think phonetically)
Nov 24, 2021 04:30 PM
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MemorableSweater239Nov 24, 2021 04:30 PM
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Quote from _A2 :
Hmmm...

1. Locate model numbers for both drives
2. Locate and download PDF spec sheet for both drive
3. Compare
4. PROFIT?!?!?!?

I'm not saying this to be an *sshole, I'm saying it because it's something I would do. After having done that, I might ask for advice. For people's personal experiences which don't show up in spec sheets.

Also keep in mind when you say "WD Reds" there are now WD Red, Red Plus, and Red Pro drives I think. Which makes it a bit of a pain in the ass to compare.

Toshiba drive: HDWG480XZSTA Datasheet link [toshiba-storage.com]

WD Red data sheet: Link
[westerndigital.com]WD Red Plus data sheet: Link [westerndigital.com]


I didn't share the WD Red Pro PDF link because I'm pretty sure they're in another league in terms of warranty (5 years versus 3), performance, etc.

You might consider "shucking" WD EasyStore drives from Best Buy. I currently have 2x8TB WD EasyStore drives, shucked from their enclosures, in a basic Synology DS220j.

I also have 3x8TB WD Gold and one more 10TB WD EasyStore shucked also. EasyStores were purchased at Best Buy ("EasyStore" is exclusive to Best Buy, I believe). The 8TB and 10TB EasyStores are Helium filled drives. With part numbers that match FCC or other filings for DeskStar Enterprise grade drives. Plenty to read on Reddit and other sites about drive shucking. Interesting stuff. Also, warranty is not voided by shucking. Hope you find this helpful.
"I didn't share the WD Red Pro PDF link because I'm pretty sure they're in another league in terms of warranty (5 years versus 3), performance, etc."

Well Googled NAS drives and they last 3-5 years which is exactly what my normal WDRed 6TB lasted 5 years. I assume the backup is the one that is still working.
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T_P85DNov 24, 2021 04:41 PM
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I would stay away from Toshiba drives, not a good reputation. I went with Seagate Ironwolves Pro.
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shadowx360Nov 24, 2021 05:14 PM
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Quote from T_P85D :
I would stay away from Toshiba drives, not a good reputation. I went with Seagate Ironwolves Pro.
Seagate is the brand with the WORSE reliability in any large enough sample size. Anyone with more than anecdotal data can confirm: https://www.backblaze.com/blog/ba...r-q3-2021/

Anyone that really cares about reliability needs to pony up for HGST, use RAID, and have off site backups. If nothing else, Backblaze costs $65/year and provides unlimited backups. Compared to the cost of drives required for off-site backup, it's a steal.
Last edited by shadowx360 November 24, 2021 at 09:19 AM.
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amdaxiomNov 24, 2021 05:21 PM
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Good deal given current prices. I am glad to see hard drives prices are definitely on their way down.
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_A2Nov 24, 2021 05:36 PM
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Quote from MemorableSweater239 :
"I didn't share the WD Red Pro PDF link because I'm pretty sure they're in another league in terms of warranty (5 years versus 3), performance, etc."

Well Googled NAS drives and they last 3-5 years which is exactly what my normal WDRed 6TB lasted 5 years. I assume the backup is the one that is still working.

Nice! Lasted and then died? Or still going? If they're still going, congrats :-). Also, I say "another league" because at least the WD Gold drives I have also have specific workload ratings (550TB/year for my 8TB's I believe).
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MadPupNov 24, 2021 05:41 PM
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$20/TB is par for the course but a measily 1 year warranty on a NAS drive is not.
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