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Baratza Encore Conical Burr Coffee Grinder

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Christopherbean.com has Baratza Encore Conical Burr Coffee Grinder for $139.99 - $28 w/ coupon code WELCOME20 = $111.99. Shipping is free.

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Featuring 40 individual grind settings, from fine to coarse, the Encore can please any palate with its gamut of accurate and repeatable grind settings. The Encore has an accurate medium to coarse grind for the increasingly popular manual brew methods such as pour-over, Aeropress, Siphon and Chemex. The specially designed burrs give a precise grind with minimal fines for a flavorful, balanced extraction when making espresso.

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Christopherbean.com has Baratza Encore Conical Burr Coffee Grinder for $139.99 - $28 w/ coupon code WELCOME20 = $111.99. Shipping is free.

Thanks to Community Member TheMightyKong for posting this deal.

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Written by SubZero5 | Staff
Featuring 40 individual grind settings, from fine to coarse, the Encore can please any palate with its gamut of accurate and repeatable grind settings. The Encore has an accurate medium to coarse grind for the increasingly popular manual brew methods such as pour-over, Aeropress, Siphon and Chemex. The specially designed burrs give a precise grind with minimal fines for a flavorful, balanced extraction when making espresso.

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buzzspot
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This is good deal on a solid entry level burr grinder. Baratza has great support that helped me put a timer switch on my Encore like the Maestro Plus and Virtuoso have. Next upgrade is the M2 burr after my stock ones wear out.
cruiserx
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It was a legit coupon and they didn't honor it.
heisssenberg
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Higher end grinders will have more consistency of grind size. Ideally, you want all grinds exactly the same size so they all extract evenly and you don't get over or under extracted grinds. Burr grinders are huge step up from blade grinders which bash the beans into random sized fragments.

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Nov 26, 2021
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gadgetzilla
Nov 26, 2021
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Quote from bustedmagnet :
It takes heavier duty equipment to consistently grind at the level you need for great espresso. The burrs are more heavy duty and the motors are too, among other things. If you are looking for the Baratza Encore equivalent for espresso it would be the Baratza Sette 30. I've researched on if there exists a grinder out there that can do both very well, but there just really isn't. Baratza sells a model called Vario which is supposed to be that machine, but most reviews out there aren't very great on it.
Thank you for your comments and thoughts.

I spent perusing through baratza's website and found a couple of comparison charts of which grinder is best for what type of coffee (drip vs espresso) and saw the Vario to be better suited for both espresso and drip. It's out of my price range for now but I keep in mind for a future purchase.
Nov 26, 2021
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VarmintCong
Nov 26, 2021
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Quote from lonestarnight :
Interesting. Obviously, my cheap grinder has a blade. I use it for drip coffee.

This would be a deal that would obviously benefit from a taste test. Smilie I do have a feeling that the taste difference would be extemely modest to me, if perceptible at all.
Surprised me what a difference it makes. I also got a Breville milk cafe, and that also (like steamed milk) makes a big difference. If you're spending money on decent beans, don't use a blade grinder.
Nov 26, 2021
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VarmintCong
Nov 26, 2021
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Quote from jeffricks2051 :
What about aeropress? I just got an espresso machine, but it made bad steam, leaked some, and made ok, but inconsistent espresso, so I took it back. The first thing I noticed when using it is it put out espresso with a profile noticably similar to what I get from my aeropress. Then I realized it's probably the grinder I use. I went out and bought some esspresso at a coffee shop so I could get a true espresso grind. When I put that in the espresso machine I got a different flavor and some crema. With my coffee grinder there was 0 or little crema. SO I think it might be important for me to get a grinder that can do a proper esspresso grind EVEN IF I AM USING THE AEROPRESS. I forgot to try the truely grinded espresso beans in aeropress. I'm pretty sure it will be better too. I think I'll go try that now
I've used the Encore for aeropress, works fine for that, but that's not espresso grind. I thought espresso grind is too fine for an aeropress?
Nov 26, 2021
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jeffricks2051
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Quote from VarmintCong :
I've used the Encore for aeropress, works fine for that, but that's not espresso grind. I thought espresso grind is too fine for an aeropress?
I'm not positive. I know a fair amount about coffee, but I've never owned a espresso maker so I'll always be dumb in ways till I do.

It dawned on me that the best aeropress shot is probably a matter of using the most consistant ground coffee, and the finest level that you can still push through the aeropress. So I have something to figure out over the next month. Will be looking for the level of fineness that makes for a slow, sluggish press. But short of being too hard to push through.

Soons like a noobish thing to think of, but I never explored that before so will now.
Nov 26, 2021
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qid786
Nov 26, 2021
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Quote from thebeets :
How does this compare to a Capresso Infinity?
Way better imo
Nov 26, 2021
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thebeets
Nov 26, 2021
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Looked through some reviews for this on Amazon, a number of people saying and posting videos showing how beans fail to ingest into the grinder or get stuck and require a lot of maintenance to fix. Doesn't look very reassuring.
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mlfatty
Nov 26, 2021
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Is this a good grinder for grinding coffee for Moka Pot? Thanks

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Kabn
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Quote from thebeets :
Looked through some reviews for this on Amazon, a number of people saying and posting videos showing how beans fail to ingest into the grinder or get stuck and require a lot of maintenance to fix. Doesn't look very reassuring.
I've had this grinder for 7 years, and while there does tend to be some buildup in the space between the hopper and the burr, it takes less than a minute to clean out and doesn't interfere with normal operation. I grind 45g of beans almost every day, and I probably clean it once a month or so. That's the only maintenance I've ever had to do with it.

Two of my friends have had theirs for at least as long and have had similar experiences. One of them is the second most knowledgeable coffee person I know.
Nov 27, 2021
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janusman
Nov 27, 2021
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Is this good for drip brewing?
Nov 27, 2021
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VioletHorn537
Nov 27, 2021
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Quote from jeffricks2051 :
Do you know the cheapest, most reliable grinder that will do on-point espresso grind?

And yes, I'm one of the fewer that understands the consistency of the grind size is just as important as the fineness of the grind. What I can't figure out is how to shop for a good grinder!
Porlex Mini for about $80, manual. Capresso Infinity for $100 is a cheap conical burr that goes finer than the Encore. Breville Smart Grinder also conical, perhaps more consistent, at $200, but better for pour over. Baratza Sette and Rancilio Rocky are finer still and around $400.

To approach the same fineness and consistency you would get at a coffee shop, though? You're looking at something like a La Marzocco Lux D for $900+. True espresso grinders are expensive
Nov 27, 2021
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jeffricks2051
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Quote from VioletHorn537 :
Porlex Mini for about $80, manual. Capresso Infinity for $100 is a cheap conical burr that goes finer than the Encore. Breville Smart Grinder also conical, perhaps more consistent, at $200, but better for pour over. Baratza Sette and Rancilio Rocky are finer still and around $400.

To approach the same fineness and consistency you would get at a coffee shop, though? You're looking at something like a La Marzocco Lux D for $900+. True espresso grinders are expensive
Great info for me to feast on.

So look for conical? I was confused about that. Everytime I eyed the Breville Smart grinder I was clueless if it was a POS or a decent choice. The Breville smart grinder is at BB&B for $200 so I think I'm looking at $160. In the picture it depicted being used for espresso grind. Wasn't sure if that was a crock or not. I thought Capresso's were junk or something.

I'm wondering if I should cancel my order on this deal (probably already shipped) and get the breville for $160. (tell me if you would if you see this).

I want to know what the good grinders are, so if I ever see a Marzocco Lux D for $550 on a fluke I know to pull the trigger.

I'll look all those up. thanks.
Nov 27, 2021
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phasher99
Nov 27, 2021
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Anyone can compare how this is vs Fellow Ode?
Nov 27, 2021
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EnTerr
Nov 27, 2021
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Quote from bustedmagnet :
Excellent filter grinder. Not for espresso though. I've owned this for 10 years and it's still going strong.
Quote from dannsd :
FYI shitty for espresso
Quote from VarmintCong :
Been using one for over a year, worth every penny. We grind at 18 for drip coffee, it's not the best for espresso grind, but worlds better than a blade.
Quote from roll_right :
Still not as good as a proper espresso grinder but gets you a bit closer for relatively cheap (with cheap not really being a thing you should plan on for espresso).
Quote from nyisless13 :
Realistically, you will not find anything in this price range that does a proper espresso grind. A high-end hand grinder gets you in the ballpark, but more likely in the $150-200 range.
Quote from johndoe35 :
Not a bad grinder for pour over. Skip if you're planning for espresso grind sizes.
Quote from roll_right :
This grinder, and even the Virtuoso, don't really provide a consistent grind at the finer settings, which is really what you need for espresso. For automatic grinders you'd probably want to start at the Sette level, which is a good bit more expensive, but that's the investment you need to make for consistent, good espresso. You could also go with manual hand grinders of which you can find some good ones for sub $200.
Quote from VioletHorn537 :
The two things you need from a grinder for espresso are a very fine grind, with very consistent ground size. The encore makes fairly consistent grounds, but the consistency drops the finer you set the machine (I use mine for French press). Also, even at the finest setting the output is still too coarse to be ideal for espresso. Probably the best automatic grinder you'll get for the job at $112, though
Quote from ready2rumble :
This grinder is great for everything but espresso because it is not consistent enough for espresso. I suppose you could run it at a 3-5 grind and hope for the best.

I have this grinder but I only use it for drip coffee in my moccamaster, so not being able to make espressos well is not a concern for me.
Guys - those that keep saying that Baratza Encore will be "no good for espresso" - respectfully, i seriously doubt you have a clue about what you are saying. Most replies are of the kind "i haven't tried - i do drip/aeropress/pour-over/moka-pot ... but in my opinion this won't work for espresso" - others are "i use much more expensive grinder for espresso, so there's no way a cheap one would do"

Okay, here's my experience as cheapskate who once upon a time got as serious about coffee as to buy green beans and do own roasting at home as to know for sure how fresh the roast is. 15+ years ago i got Gaggia Carezza espresso maker - the cheapest one i could find using non-pressurized portafilter + using pump + no thermoblock. They warned and they were right - the 58mm industrial size brass portafilter (w/o "crema disk" insert) was unforgiving to mistakes in grind size and tampering. But that was blessing in disguise, since it made it very easy to tell when i had it wrong: if a double-shot did not pull within 20-30sec time, there was a problem - as simple as that, rinse and repeat till got it right. And when there's a problem, it's not even close - either it pours in under 10sec or it chokes to squeeze a ristretto in 60sec. Great learning experience i wouldn't have got with pressurized portafilter, which always gets it in right time regardless of grind and tamper (even if wrong brew/taste)

What did i learn?

Grind matters a lot. I learned first hand that blade-grinder and cheapest burr-grinders <$50 (motorized ones - Cuisinart, Mr.Coffee; one can do with a Hario for $30 but there's too much hand-crank labor with manual ones). So having tried all else, i picked up Capresso Infinity burr grinder (just under $100 back then) as absolute minimum "they" said worked for espresso back then. And indeed it does, even as limited to only 14 clicks of adjustment, of which only the first 4 are espresso-relevant (Turkish coffee may be out of the question).

Baratza Encore is comparable-but-better than Capresso Infinity, i seemed to remember than much but checked again today - it has 3x as many grind-size settings, better shape hopper, more maintainable and no silly "timer" (you cant be serious about coffee if measuring amount of coffee in in "whatever amount grinds in X seconds"). So i placed an order today for this deal, having used Infiniti for 15yrs of espresso (for Americano), i consider this "upgrade" - but will come back and let you know if Encore is somehow worse Wink

Adjusting tampering strength can compensate some for grind size. I never obsessed to check on scale if i do ~30lbs of pressure but fairly significant pressure is needed, not just tapping. That's why i don't obsess about which grinder has moar clicks - i was able do with only 4 clicks by varying tampering force

Coffee freshness matters most! Forget buying ground coffee, grind as-needed (for same day). Never buy coffee beans w/o expiration date stamp - but keep in mind those get put 12-24 mo from roasting and by then all aroma and flavor has long gone. Ideally buy beans with roast date less than 4 wks ago. Best if you have local roaster or order online from one that indicates when beans were roasted. My subjective impression is that crema is visual indicator of freshness, when done on non-pressurised, non-"creama-enhanced" machine. If roast is not fresh, there is no crema <shrug>. Old coffee lacks aroma too. It is safe to drink, just lacking

Coffee quality is the 2nd most important factor. Regardless your equipment, bad green beans cannot be roasted to great coffee. Should be from right origin and roast profile to your taste - but roast should be fresh, as listed above as most important (which is why i don't care for Illy/Lavazza roasted overseas in times unknown)
Last edited by EnTerr November 27, 2021 at 10:28 AM.
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soundsofscience
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Quote from MerryTeam3278 :
In for one. Been waiting for the price drop. I broke my other one, when somehow a screw got stuck in the my old one, I think it came out of a Costco bag of beans. If anyone knows how to fix these and is in the tristate area, let me know, I'll let you have it cheap.
They could not be easier to repair. My guess is this part is broken. You can get it from Baratza but most online Baratza retailers have them too.
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mig0
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With the burr upgrade is it 1 item to replace or 2? I did the m2 upgrade but have not been too sure I did it correctly because I hear Stange noises when I grind lower than a 10 and I'm not sure this is as even as it should be. I haven't had bad results yet with my aeropress but I know the AP is a bit forgiving

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