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The lithium technology is now becoming easily accessible to general population. 3000 charge cycle expectancy is difficult believe, offering 10 times longer lasting usability than lead acid or AGM types, or up to 5-6 times more than first generation lithium ion batteries.
This equates to minimum 10+ years life expectancy, yet priced at par with high quality commercial lead-acid batteries.
This is fabulous and unrealistic deal, but I don't believe seller's claim. If they truly believe their hardware to last minimum charge cycle of 3000, they'd be accompanied with stated warranty accordingly, that is minimum 10 years free of replacement guarantee, that is to say, free battery replacement rights to purchasers if storage capacity degraded to industry standard of 60-70% of original specification.
This really may be a quantum leap jump in battery technology everyone wants, or just a hype to find a sucker. I'd tend to believe it be be later case, as I can't find warranty replacement policy that support its claims.
There still is many merchants selling over-stated lithium batteries in eBay. I do not believe they wanted quick income by cheating someone, but they really do NOT understand the underlying battery technology. I hope merchants in this understand the items they sell to public.
LiFePO4 chemistry batteries have high cycle counts in the thousands. 3000 is a reasonable expectation for these batteries. Whether the manufacturer puts in quality cells is something buyer has to research.
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The lithium technology is now becoming easily accessible to general population. 3000 charge cycle expectancy is difficult believe, offering 10 times longer lasting usability than lead acid or AGM types, or up to 5-6 times more than first generation lithium ion batteries.
This equates to minimum 10+ years life expectancy, yet priced at par with high quality commercial lead-acid batteries.
This is fabulous and unrealistic deal, but I don't believe seller's claim. If they truly believe their hardware to last minimum charge cycle of 3000, they'd be accompanied with stated warranty accordingly, that is minimum 10 years free of replacement guarantee, that is to say, free battery replacement rights to purchasers if storage capacity degraded to industry standard of 60-70% of original specification.
This really may be a quantum leap jump in battery technology everyone wants, or just a hype to find a sucker. I'd tend to believe it be be later case, as I can't find warranty replacement policy that support its claims.
There still is many merchants selling over-stated lithium batteries in eBay. I do not believe they wanted quick income by cheating someone, but they really do NOT understand the underlying battery technology. I hope merchants in this understand the items they sell to public.
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I put a Chinese lifepo4 kepworth battery in my track car and it has been amazing. What is the max intermittent amperage of this 100ah battery? Not in the specs. Dictates whether or not it can replace your RV primary batteries.
I put a Chinese lifepo4 kepworth battery in my track car and it has been amazing. What is the max intermittent amperage of this 100ah battery? Not in the specs. Dictates whether or not it can replace your RV primary batteries.
does it replace the standard 12V battery? any disadvantages of doing that?
does it replace the standard 12V battery? any disadvantages of doing that?
LiFepo4 battery in general should not be used in freezing conditions. The battery management system should have low temp cutoff to prevent damage. This is not a replacement for lead-acid battery for engine cranking. This is good for providing power for other applications like powering your RV/house where it's in above freezing temps.
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The lithium technology is now becoming easily accessible to general population. 3000 charge cycle expectancy is difficult believe, offering 10 times longer lasting usability than lead acid or AGM types, or up to 5-6 times more than first generation lithium ion batteries.
This equates to minimum 10+ years life expectancy, yet priced at par with high quality commercial lead-acid batteries.
This is fabulous and unrealistic deal, but I don't believe seller's claim. If they truly believe their hardware to last minimum charge cycle of 3000, they'd be accompanied with stated warranty accordingly, that is minimum 10 years free of replacement guarantee, that is to say, free battery replacement rights to purchasers if storage capacity degraded to industry standard of 60-70% of original specification.
This really may be a quantum leap jump in battery technology everyone wants, or just a hype to find a sucker. I'd tend to believe it be be later case, as I can't find warranty replacement policy that support its claims.
There still is many merchants selling over-stated lithium batteries in eBay. I do not believe they wanted quick income by cheating someone, but they really do NOT understand the underlying battery technology. I hope merchants in this understand the items they sell to public.
LiFePO4 chemistry batteries have high cycle counts in the thousands. 3000 is a reasonable expectation for these batteries. Whether the manufacturer puts in quality cells is something buyer has to research.
LiFePO4 chemistry batteries have high cycle counts in the thousands. 3000 is a reasonable expectation for these batteries. Whether the manufacturer puts in quality cells is something buyer has to research.
It's is actually half the price one Costco merchandise at this moment, which I though is extremely attractive, still pondering if I should replace my golf cart batteries. My deep-cycle battery rarely last more than a year, and as with all lead acid type, self discharge rate is becoming intolerable, that is, it loses 25-40% SOC overnight. Basically, waste too much time just to charge battery.
My golf cart batteries, yielding approximate twice the capacity of this one costs about $300, at par with Costco package, will jump onto this lithium, if there is any assurance that these batteries perform as stated. Even at $1400 Costco charge for pair, I'd more than happy to buy it, it's well worth the investment.
From what I read on media, these things can be charged with much higher current and negligible self-discharge loss, substantially reducing overall recharging time, which is real benefit of having lithium battery.
Only issue is, as you stated, the quality of cells inside that can yield theoritical yield of stated charge cycle. You may end up with one of those 18650 recycled cell repackaged that stated energy capacity is unreal.
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It's is actually half the price one Costco merchandise at this moment, which I though is extremely attractive, still pondering if I should replace my golf cart batteries...
Check out https://diysolarforum.com[diysolarforum.com] It's the forum for a well known solar/battery youtuber named Will Prowse.
In there you can learn about how these lifepo4 batteries are built, where to get cells, and where to buy BMS's, and how to set it up. For about $600 I built a ~12V 4S battery with ~250Ah including a quality BMS. It's really not that difficult. That was over 6 months ago and prices have gone up since then, but it's still a real bargain compared to old battery types.
Thanks for that - the low temp cut-off not working is a bummer. Granted not many of them actually do at this price but I'd rather save my money and get one that does. LiFepo4 dies a quick death when misused in the cold.
The other deal the OP linked to is still going on.
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Thanks for that - the low temp cut-off not working is a bummer. Granted not many of them actually do at this price but I'd rather save my money and get one that does. LiFepo4 dies a quick death when misused in the cold.
Reviewer said that the battery may be well insulated so the inside temp may be higher than the 20 degrees outside temp. The other issue seems to be that the BMS has a low voltage cut off that's lower than he prefers. Draining cells too low will damage the cells.
All these issues are preventable if one pays attention but it's nice to have a peace of mind that the BMS can handle these things. I think these batteries are a great solution but the downside is you are stuck with whatever BMS that the manufacturers put in.
I am tempted to buy, the price is very good but I am particular lol.
The lithium technology is now becoming easily accessible to general population. 3000 charge cycle expectancy is difficult believe, offering 10 times longer lasting usability than lead acid or AGM types, or up to 5-6 times more than first generation lithium ion batteries.
This equates to minimum 10+ years life expectancy, yet priced at par with high quality commercial lead-acid batteries.
This is fabulous and unrealistic deal, but I don't believe seller's claim. If they truly believe their hardware to last minimum charge cycle of 3000, they'd be accompanied with stated warranty accordingly, that is minimum 10 years free of replacement guarantee, that is to say, free battery replacement rights to purchasers if storage capacity degraded to industry standard of 60-70% of original specification.
This really may be a quantum leap jump in battery technology everyone wants, or just a hype to find a sucker. I'd tend to believe it be be later case, as I can't find warranty replacement policy that support its claims.
There still is many merchants selling over-stated lithium batteries in eBay. I do not believe they wanted quick income by cheating someone, but they really do NOT understand the underlying battery technology. I hope merchants in this understand the items they sell to public.
Good lfp batteries can get 10k cycles and over 20yr cal life. At this price point.... no. 3k cycles is believable BUT the cal lif is likely very poor along with defect rates.
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The lithium technology is now becoming easily accessible to general population. 3000 charge cycle expectancy is difficult believe, offering 10 times longer lasting usability than lead acid or AGM types, or up to 5-6 times more than first generation lithium ion batteries.
This equates to minimum 10+ years life expectancy, yet priced at par with high quality commercial lead-acid batteries.
This is fabulous and unrealistic deal, but I don't believe seller's claim. If they truly believe their hardware to last minimum charge cycle of 3000, they'd be accompanied with stated warranty accordingly, that is minimum 10 years free of replacement guarantee, that is to say, free battery replacement rights to purchasers if storage capacity degraded to industry standard of 60-70% of original specification.
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This equates to minimum 10+ years life expectancy, yet priced at par with high quality commercial lead-acid batteries.
This is fabulous and unrealistic deal, but I don't believe seller's claim. If they truly believe their hardware to last minimum charge cycle of 3000, they'd be accompanied with stated warranty accordingly, that is minimum 10 years free of replacement guarantee, that is to say, free battery replacement rights to purchasers if storage capacity degraded to industry standard of 60-70% of original specification.
This really may be a quantum leap jump in battery technology everyone wants, or just a hype to find a sucker. I'd tend to believe it be be later case, as I can't find warranty replacement policy that support its claims.
There still is many merchants selling over-stated lithium batteries in eBay. I do not believe they wanted quick income by cheating someone, but they really do NOT understand the underlying battery technology. I hope merchants in this understand the items they sell to public.
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This equates to minimum 10+ years life expectancy, yet priced at par with high quality commercial lead-acid batteries.
This is fabulous and unrealistic deal, but I don't believe seller's claim. If they truly believe their hardware to last minimum charge cycle of 3000, they'd be accompanied with stated warranty accordingly, that is minimum 10 years free of replacement guarantee, that is to say, free battery replacement rights to purchasers if storage capacity degraded to industry standard of 60-70% of original specification.
This really may be a quantum leap jump in battery technology everyone wants, or just a hype to find a sucker. I'd tend to believe it be be later case, as I can't find warranty replacement policy that support its claims.
There still is many merchants selling over-stated lithium batteries in eBay. I do not believe they wanted quick income by cheating someone, but they really do NOT understand the underlying battery technology. I hope merchants in this understand the items they sell to public.
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This equates to minimum 10+ years life expectancy, yet priced at par with high quality commercial lead-acid batteries.
This is fabulous and unrealistic deal, but I don't believe seller's claim. If they truly believe their hardware to last minimum charge cycle of 3000, they'd be accompanied with stated warranty accordingly, that is minimum 10 years free of replacement guarantee, that is to say, free battery replacement rights to purchasers if storage capacity degraded to industry standard of 60-70% of original specification.
This really may be a quantum leap jump in battery technology everyone wants, or just a hype to find a sucker. I'd tend to believe it be be later case, as I can't find warranty replacement policy that support its claims.
There still is many merchants selling over-stated lithium batteries in eBay. I do not believe they wanted quick income by cheating someone, but they really do NOT understand the underlying battery technology. I hope merchants in this understand the items they sell to public.
My golf cart batteries, yielding approximate twice the capacity of this one costs about $300, at par with Costco package, will jump onto this lithium, if there is any assurance that these batteries perform as stated. Even at $1400 Costco charge for pair, I'd more than happy to buy it, it's well worth the investment.
From what I read on media, these things can be charged with much higher current and negligible self-discharge loss, substantially reducing overall recharging time, which is real benefit of having lithium battery.
Only issue is, as you stated, the quality of cells inside that can yield theoritical yield of stated charge cycle. You may end up with one of those 18650 recycled cell repackaged that stated energy capacity is unreal.
In there you can learn about how these lifepo4 batteries are built, where to get cells, and where to buy BMS's, and how to set it up. For about $600 I built a ~12V 4S battery with ~250Ah including a quality BMS. It's really not that difficult. That was over 6 months ago and prices have gone up since then, but it's still a real bargain compared to old battery types.
https://youtu.be/IkoYW7kCR4I
All these issues are preventable if one pays attention but it's nice to have a peace of mind that the BMS can handle these things. I think these batteries are a great solution but the downside is you are stuck with whatever BMS that the manufacturers put in.
I am tempted to buy, the price is very good but I am particular lol.
This equates to minimum 10+ years life expectancy, yet priced at par with high quality commercial lead-acid batteries.
This is fabulous and unrealistic deal, but I don't believe seller's claim. If they truly believe their hardware to last minimum charge cycle of 3000, they'd be accompanied with stated warranty accordingly, that is minimum 10 years free of replacement guarantee, that is to say, free battery replacement rights to purchasers if storage capacity degraded to industry standard of 60-70% of original specification.
This really may be a quantum leap jump in battery technology everyone wants, or just a hype to find a sucker. I'd tend to believe it be be later case, as I can't find warranty replacement policy that support its claims.
There still is many merchants selling over-stated lithium batteries in eBay. I do not believe they wanted quick income by cheating someone, but they really do NOT understand the underlying battery technology. I hope merchants in this understand the items they sell to public.
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This equates to minimum 10+ years life expectancy, yet priced at par with high quality commercial lead-acid batteries.
This is fabulous and unrealistic deal, but I don't believe seller's claim. If they truly believe their hardware to last minimum charge cycle of 3000, they'd be accompanied with stated warranty accordingly, that is minimum 10 years free of replacement guarantee, that is to say, free battery replacement rights to purchasers if storage capacity degraded to industry standard of 60-70% of original specification.
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