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Prometheus XVI Ryzen 9 NVIDIA RTX 3080 16.0" 16:10 165Hz QHD HDR 2560x1600, 16gb RAM, 512gb NVME hd Gaming Laptop $1999.91 at Eluktronics

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Nice gaming laptop with the 3080:

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AMD Ryzen 9 5900HX 8 Cores - 16 Threads (3.3-4.6GHz Max Boost Clock)

8GB GDDR6 VRAM NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3080 (Max-P TGP: 115~150 Watts*)

16.0" Narrow Bezel QHD IPS-Type 165Hz 500-Nit HDR Anti-Glare Display (2560 x 1600)

512GB Ultra Performance PCIe NVMe SSD + Samsung 16GB DDR4 3200MHz (2 Dimm)

One empty M.2 PCIe bay *Not applicable when a secondary PCIe SSD storage option is selected.

Weight: Only 5.62lbs

https://www.eluktronics.com/Prome...XVI-3080BF


They also have a 17 inch 3070 laptop at $1699:

https://www.eluktronics.com/Prome...II-1P16RBF
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12-07-2021 at 08:32 PM.

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12-07-2021 at 08:32 PM.
Probably the best bang for your buck right now for highest end gaming laptop. Only real competition getting similar FPS is in the much higher price bracket (double)

https://youtu.be/IibIzB5kdZ0?t=481

People need to understand though, a laptop is still a laptop. Even the best laptop really isn't very good compared to an equally priced desktop. If a laptop is what you want, this is a decent one. This isn't getting anywhere near 140+ FPS in 1440p with AAA titles as it can't even do that in 1080p consistently.

Personally I can't spend $2k on a laptop and sleep at night. It either ends up being a bad desktop hooked up to a ton of external stuff or it ends up as a portable movie watcher that a cheaper option would have worked better and way lighter. This laptop actually did worse in DaVinci Resolve than two 3070 laptops... so you can def save money and get pretty damn near equal experiences going with much cheaper 3070 builds and sticking to 1080p as you should on a laptop.
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12-07-2021 at 08:40 PM.
12-07-2021 at 08:40 PM.
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Alder lake laptop with a 3070 TI is coming out next month just to let you know
Next month? I keep it was getting close but I didn't think it was that soon.
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12-07-2021 at 09:02 PM.
12-07-2021 at 09:02 PM.
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Do you even know what pro gives you over home?

Literally nothing that a home user needs. Your comment is irrelevant and you've made everyone stupider for even making it.

I nEeD gRoUp PoLicY oN mY gAmEr LaPtOp To MaKe It RuN fAsT. PrO mEaNs FaSt!!!
Yeah, drive encryption on a laptop, what home user needs that?
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12-07-2021 at 09:04 PM.
12-07-2021 at 09:04 PM.
Quote from sHockz_atx :
Do you even know what pro gives you over home?

Literally nothing that a home user needs. Your comment is irrelevant and you've made everyone stupider for even making it.

I nEeD gRoUp PoLicY oN mY gAmEr LaPtOp To MaKe It RuN fAsT. PrO mEaNs FaSt!!!

Don't laugh at my domain controller, email server, group policies and Edge firewall OkAY???
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12-07-2021 at 09:09 PM.
12-07-2021 at 09:09 PM.
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Why would you store data you care about on a laptop (with only 512gb of storage...barely enough for a couple games)? Use a NAS. Encrypt there. Even my 65 year old mother uses a NAS.

And yea, truecrypt probably unstable because it's development's been dead for like...5+ years.

Also - if your drive is dead, why are you worried about the data on it? It's solid state, unless it's the FBI they aren't getting your data off. No one cares. Drive encryption is just not needed for a gaming laptop with only 512gb of storage. If it had a second HDD bay and 2x 2tb nvme's, yea, pro for bitlocker would make sense because then it would also cater to developers.
I have a
Nas for backup. It is not as fast as as an NVME. The drive may be dead to me, but it may be fixed and accessible to anyone. If it's a bad controller the data is accessible if the controller is swapped.

The Nas is where I DON'T need encryption. If one of my disks dies, the data on it not accessible without the entire array.

If you read my post, I mentioned Veracrypt, which is the active successor to Truecrypt.
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12-07-2021 at 09:45 PM.
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Came for the best deal, stayed for the flame war.
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12-07-2021 at 10:07 PM.
12-07-2021 at 10:07 PM.
Quote from sHockz_atx :
Do you even know what pro gives you over home?

Literally nothing that a home user needs. Your comment is irrelevant and you've made everyone stupider for even making it.

I nEeD gRoUp PoLicY oN mY gAmEr LaPtOp To MaKe It RuN fAsT. PrO mEaNs FaSt!!!
You don't know me or what I need in an OS. But look at you being tough on the internet.
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12-07-2021 at 10:08 PM.
12-07-2021 at 10:08 PM.
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This guy literally started calling people "internet tough guys" for calling out his bs and then is upset when people continue to call him out for it.
Haha. I was called out for things I didn't even say, but sure, dude.
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12-07-2021 at 10:34 PM.
12-07-2021 at 10:34 PM.
Great value. But I wish it had the large glass trackpad that the 17" has. It's such a give-take because I want to use it for work as well. I use trackpads a bunch as I move around and I've had the best experiences with large glass pads (ie. MacBook Pro). Also, couldn't find enough reviews on how a good the keyboard is.

The 17" is big and the screen isn't 500 nits nor 16:10.

Admittedly, these are not as big of a concern if you're getting it as a pure gaming laptop. Just adding my perspective for an all-in-one solution.

If anyone knows of a laptop that is:
15-16"
Around 500 nits
RTX 3060 or 3070
Larger glass trackpad
Ryzen 5900

Pls let me know! Closest I could find so far is the Blade 14 or 15 but the screen is only around 300 nits.
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Hat-Trick
12-08-2021 at 05:36 AM.
12-08-2021 at 05:36 AM.
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Two grand and they can't even give you Win10 Pro.
Quote from viper51989 :
Those codes are like $12 on eBay. Your comment is irrelevant
Or use any Windows 7 Pro or Ultimate or Windows 8 Pro key to upgrade your Windows 10 or 11 Home to Pro.

Works like a champ. Thanks MS!
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12-08-2021 at 05:48 AM.
12-08-2021 at 05:48 AM.
Quote from sHockz_atx :
Why would you store data you care about on a laptop (with only 512gb of storage...barely enough for a couple games)? Use a NAS. Encrypt there. Even my 65 year old mother uses a NAS.

And yea, truecrypt probably unstable because it's development's been dead for like...5+ years.

Also - if your drive is dead, why are you worried about the data on it? It's solid state, unless it's the FBI they aren't getting your data off. No one cares. Drive encryption is just not needed for a gaming laptop with only 512gb of storage. If it had a second HDD bay and 2x 2tb nvme's, yea, pro for bitlocker would make sense because then it would also cater to developers.
I can hardly believe you said this, not to mention your cherry-picked scenario of drive failure.

Did your Mom setup and configure the NAS or did you do it for her? If the latter, I'm not impressed.

The fact is, for the secure data that people keep on their laptops, a NAS is an unnecessary expense when you can just encrypt your drive for free. I, for one, don't need more than 1TB in my laptop as I have cloud storage for the bulk of things. But i am concerned with someone accessing my drive and therefore my cached browser passwords, sites and data. That's not something a NAS can help with. Encrypting a Windows drive is the practical thing to do for security.

Also, not all laptop repairs are for dead drives. How about when the display or system board has an issue? Repair people then certainly DO have access to your data if the drive is not encrypted.

I support hundreds of people on hundreds of computers (desktops and portables) and cannot think of any scenario where a NAS is remotely needed. or would be better than just encrypting their drives as a security measure.
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12-08-2021 at 05:58 AM.
12-08-2021 at 05:58 AM.
Quote from cobelali :
I have a
Nas for backup. It is not as fast as as an NVME. The drive may be dead to me, but it may be fixed and accessible to anyone. If it's a bad controller the data is accessible if the controller is swapped.

The Nas is where I DON'T need encryption. If one of my disks dies, the data on it not accessible without the entire array.

If you read my post, I mentioned Veracrypt, which is the active successor to Truecrypt.

You don't do FDE on a NAS, you create an encrypted volume/container. Duh. Veracrypt works fine, and I'm not sure why you lumped it in with a dead software that's not being developed for anymore. Moreso, you can use veracrypt on the tiny 512gb drive to create the same container as I suggested doing on a NAS. Or if you're cheap, a $40 external USB drive. Or, just upgrade windows for -.37 cents. The solutions are endless, and "home" is what they put on gaming laptops because they aren't business marketed. If you're afraid of losing your passwords to someone stealing your drive data, use a password manager. The solutions are endless, and saying "why didn't this come with pro" is literally asinine.
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12-08-2021 at 06:06 AM.
12-08-2021 at 06:06 AM.
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I can hardly believe you said this, not to mention your cherry-picked scenario of drive failure.

Did your Mom setup and configure the NAS or did you do it for her? If the latter, I'm not impressed.

The fact is, for the secure data that people keep on their laptops, a NAS is an unnecessary expense when you can just encrypt your drive for free. I, for one, don't need more than 1TB in my laptop as I have cloud storage for the bulk of things. But i am concerned with someone accessing my drive and therefore my cached browser passwords, sites and data. That's not something a NAS can help with. Encrypting a Windows drive is the practical thing to do for security.

Also, not all laptop repairs are for dead drives. How about when the display or system board has an issue? Repair people then certainly DO have access to your data if the drive is not encrypted.

I support hundreds of people on hundreds of computers (desktops and portables) and cannot think of any scenario where a NAS is remotely needed. or would be better than just encrypting their drives as a security measure.

I didn't cherry pick the scenario, go read the previous comment and realize that was the scenario presented. And if your screen is dead, pull your drive before sending it in. They don't need it for a repair. Same with the "system board" (motherboard lol). Encrypting a windows drive is a business level feature/need to protect IP, not a home user need to protect your already exposed and reused password being sold on the dark web already. If you're a sys admin then you know that. A gaming laptop does not need FDE when the expectation is "load drive completely with games." If you need pro, then upgrade for literally almost nothing. Most home users aren't going to use bitlocker because they don't even understand it. They cannot install a NAS (but an external drive is an easy alternative). If they could, then they'd understand that upgrading windows is nominal, easy, and cheap, and not be complaining about it on a home gaming laptop deal at $2k. So I question your sys admin aptitude. Especially since I'm the one (principal support engineer) sys admins call because they have no idea what they're doing.

Let me put it like this- your server side passwords get hacked and exposed without the need to access your personal computer at all. Home computers are worthless to attack, no hacker cares about a single points data when they can do a single hack to expose millions of usernames/passwords from a database. So encrypting a home computer, again, is worthless, because you do not carry intellectual property on the machine. FDE is a BUSINESS need, not a home need.
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justjeepin
12-08-2021 at 06:37 AM.
12-08-2021 at 06:37 AM.
Quote from Ohsighrus :
Probably the best bang for your buck right now for highest end gaming laptop. Only real competition getting similar FPS is in the much higher price bracket (double)

https://youtu.be/IibIzB5kdZ0?t=481

People need to understand though, a laptop is still a laptop. Even the best laptop really isn't very good compared to an equally priced desktop. If a laptop is what you want, this is a decent one. This isn't getting anywhere near 140+ FPS in 1440p with AAA titles as it can't even do that in 1080p consistently.

Personally I can't spend $2k on a laptop and sleep at night. It either ends up being a bad desktop hooked up to a ton of external stuff or it ends up as a portable movie watcher that a cheaper option would have worked better and way lighter. This laptop actually did worse in DaVinci Resolve than two 3070 laptops... so you can def save money and get pretty damn near equal experiences going with much cheaper 3070 builds and sticking to 1080p as you should on a laptop.
You're not wrong, but laptops have their place IMO. I've gotten a ton of mileage out of my Walmart L5P in the past few months, to the point that I feel like I use it more than my 3070 desktop. The only thing I'll hard disagree on is 1080p being the gold standard for laptops. After using the screen in this L5P with 1600p/IPS/G-sync, there's definitely a place for higher resolutions with full power cards.
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12-08-2021 at 06:38 AM.
12-08-2021 at 06:38 AM.
Quote from sHockz_atx :
I didn't cherry pick the scenario, go read the previous comment and realize that was the scenario presented. And if your screen is dead, pull your drive before sending it in. They don't need it for a repair. Same with the "system board" (motherboard lol). Encrypting a windows drive is a business level feature/need to protect IP, not a home user need to protect your already exposed and reused password being sold on the dark web already. If you're a sys admin then you know that. A gaming laptop does not need FDE when the expectation is "load drive completely with games." If you need pro, then upgrade for literally almost nothing. Most home users aren't going to use bitlocker because they don't even understand it. They cannot install a NAS (but an external drive is an easy alternative). If they could, then they'd understand that upgrading windows is nominal, easy, and cheap, and not be complaining about it on a home gaming laptop deal at $2k. So I question your sys admin aptitude. Especially since I'm the one (principal support engineer) sys admins call because they have no idea what they're doing.

Let me put it like this- your server side passwords get hacked and exposed without the need to access your personal computer at all. Home computers are worthless to attack, no hacker cares about a single points data when they can do a single hack to expose millions of usernames/passwords from a database. So encrypting a home computer, again, is worthless, because you do not carry intellectual property on the machine. FDE is a BUSINESS need, not a home need.
So you're saying since home users don't keep priceless intellectual property on their drives and because their passwords to bank/financial and other sites is already being sold on the dark web, and hackers aren't targeting them (really?) that a simple, free method of providing security of personal information they do have on their laptop is ridiculous and unneeded? Do you recommend that home users just use "password" for their password on everything?

It sounds like the "Enterprise-support" side of your brain is clouding the common sense side of your brain.

Sorry, but if my laptop is stolen, I don't want someone taking the drive out and connecting it to another PC to read the data. Bitlocker is seamless and works. It should be included in both Home and Pro versions of Windows. Even macOS includes FDE in their macOS (used by home AND business workers) and every Mac user is given the option of enabling it when setting up their new Mac.
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