J.A. Henckels International 10-piece Tri-ply Stainless Steel Cookware Set - $159.99

Tramontina destroys this, made in Brazil too

I think the "international" label means it's made in China and is their low-end line

I think the "international" label means it's made in China and is their low-end line

Just know Henckels and Zwilling are two seperate companies/manufacture qualities.

Henckels is the 'entry level' brand.

Zwilling is the quality level brand.

I believe if it has one little guy on the product it's Henckels, and if it has two little guys on product it is Zwilling.

I believe Zwilling owns Zwilling, and Henckels, and some other brands as well (Staub, Miabi, which are awesome brands)

A lot of the Henckels stuff is complete overpriced trash (but not all?)

If it's Zwilling (good line) the product page might say "Zwilling Henckels" which is confusing. Why mention their lower end seperate brand if it was zwilling? I think they create confusion on purpose so people think Henckels is the same as Zwilling, so they will pay big prices for crappy Henckel stuff when they see it on shelves..

I'm not sure if "Zwilling Henckels" even means it's always Zwilling. Zwilling owns Henckels so it might mean product is Henckels (by Zwilling big company)

I see other products discriptions that read "Henckels" no mention of Zwilling. Presuably a no brainer it's henckels.

Knives -- only the 'Zwilling' brand is made in Germany. 'Henckels' are made in china or elsewhere.

Flatware - Both 'Zwilling' branded and 'Henckels' are never made in germany. Both are made in china or elsewhere. Zwilling flatware are still supposed to be the premium version of flatware, I think. But I've seen sets of both brands on same site at similar prices.

I've seen reviews for 'Henckel' 18/10 flatware saying they rusted out. 18/10 should never rust out (18/0 will) Was Henckels brand, but that tells me they have some people cheaping out on steel at some of their manufacturing plants, or contracting.

Everything is so confusing.

To make it even more confusing Zwilling has some awesome stuff. It's usually carries an obviously high price tag. Usually awesome, but also overpriced for something awesome.

Adding more confusion some 'Henckels' branded stuff seems good.

IN this deal it says 18/10, tri-clad pans. It looks good on paper. Note it's by Henckels, not premium zwilling brand but looks like it's not a trash product. Perhaps they are doing this to boost the henckels image?

The Zwilling/Henckels thing is so confusing.

I believe it's that way to get dumb (or just confused) people to pay big prices for all the trashy 'Henckels' junk they put in the market.

Has anyone figured this stuff out better than what I am seeing?